Its a never ending discussion and a waste only..i think all of us in this thread should have to discuss it face to face, yeah its good , and am quite sure that it will really clear many misunderstandings as well as we will discover many things in discussing this tragic incidence.Don't hesitate and come forward i will choose venue 4 this discussion and all types of light or medium refreshments will be from my pocket, just be courageous and lets see how many of you can get together and flush out for what you are doing here face to face.