Well Penny, I don't know about you, but I'm not here claiming state benefits or political asylum. What I do has a real benefit (in its own small way) for the society around me. I do not pretend - at all - that I am in some way indispensable, but I am not here on the pretext of begging for money - I am earning my keep.
The reason I was hired was that there was a need in the country for what I have to offer - as is the case with us all. People love to shout "go back to your own country if you dont like it here" but if I did, they'd have to find someone else from abroad to replace me. It wouldnt be that hard, of course, noone is unique - but you get the drift of what I mean - don't be on eggshells about biting the hand that feeds - since the hand is not feeding you because it is feeling generous.
And even if I was a freeloader, it would still be fine to have an open discussion about the nature of religion - this is, after all the original theme of the thread. (We're all thinking it, anyway, so why not just get it out in the open?)
As I've said before, everyone is on these awful eggshells, terrified of 'saying something offensive' about Islam. What I think we have established is that religions are not human and thus cannot possible be the beneficiaries of human rights (as suggested in the resolution). They don't feel pain when we talk about them.
And enough of everyone being hyper-sensitive about being offended, when it's all blatantly a one-way street. I've read quite a few very offensive articles (in the sense that I've been actually offended to see them in print) in the Islam section of the Gulf Times, no less, right out there in the public domain, which tell Muslims not to get close to kaffir non-Muslims, not to be their friends nor to imitate them. If you complain about threads like that on QL, you are told "this is none of your business, if you don;t like it, don't read it".
Well what's good for the goose is good for the gander - if someone doesn't like my critical discussion of Islam, then they can just not read it. And it really is as simple as that.
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"let's slip out of these wet clothes and into a dry martini" Mae West
Well Penny, I don't know about you, but I'm not here claiming state benefits or political asylum. What I do has a real benefit (in its own small way) for the society around me. I do not pretend - at all - that I am in some way indispensable, but I am not here on the pretext of begging for money - I am earning my keep.
The reason I was hired was that there was a need in the country for what I have to offer - as is the case with us all. People love to shout "go back to your own country if you dont like it here" but if I did, they'd have to find someone else from abroad to replace me. It wouldnt be that hard, of course, noone is unique - but you get the drift of what I mean - don't be on eggshells about biting the hand that feeds - since the hand is not feeding you because it is feeling generous.
And even if I was a freeloader, it would still be fine to have an open discussion about the nature of religion - this is, after all the original theme of the thread. (We're all thinking it, anyway, so why not just get it out in the open?)
As I've said before, everyone is on these awful eggshells, terrified of 'saying something offensive' about Islam. What I think we have established is that religions are not human and thus cannot possible be the beneficiaries of human rights (as suggested in the resolution). They don't feel pain when we talk about them.
And enough of everyone being hyper-sensitive about being offended, when it's all blatantly a one-way street. I've read quite a few very offensive articles (in the sense that I've been actually offended to see them in print) in the Islam section of the Gulf Times, no less, right out there in the public domain, which tell Muslims not to get close to kaffir non-Muslims, not to be their friends nor to imitate them. If you complain about threads like that on QL, you are told "this is none of your business, if you don;t like it, don't read it".
Well what's good for the goose is good for the gander - if someone doesn't like my critical discussion of Islam, then they can just not read it. And it really is as simple as that.
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"let's slip out of these wet clothes and into a dry martini" Mae West