Guys don't get me wrong, I really enjoy reading your postings, specially gypsy and scorpio, even though I may get offended few times, but most of the times I find their postings informative and enlightening,....however I don't find it really useful to divert all issues toward relegious and gay matters....the years taught me that people can get very irrational when relegion is concerned, on the other hand most of the straights are very homophobic, or at least they never understand the gay people feelings and it is pointless to disscuss the issue with them