i'm compelled to think that ray is enjoying of his best friend making fun of others. i'm Alhamdolillah v patient nd have much more control on my nurves. some ppl make fun of others and enjoy, i at my best efforts try not to make fun of others nd if someone making fun of me, let him/her be happy, end of de day he/she is updating his/her account wid his/her deeds.

As far as meetin wid ray is concerned, i met him personally nd i DID find him nice guy. if he doesn't want to meet i think he can simply refuse it, i just wanted to have sittin to enjoy some music wid hussen and having fun that's it.

han, as i've asked ray to meet, i also have said to u many times to come even along wid ur hubby and kids, but i never found u elusive then why i should think about ray. everybody has his/her busy schedule and not all of them are free like me :-), hassen and sd has some spare time and wanted to meet therefore we met. if someone is not willin to meet outside QL, it's his/her own choice.