Salute for Islamic Qatar

The prophet himself, Peace and blessings be upon him, never returned insults to the pagans who abused him and his companions in the most awful ways. They called him nasty names, spat on him, put filthy things on his neck while he was in prostration praying, hit him, hit his companions and even killed some of them just because they were telling them to worship the all-mighty.

A jewish women would put her garbage on his door everyday just because she did not like him or accept him as the last prophet. He would take the garbage and through it away. One day he did not find her filth on his door so he asked about her and found out she was sick, so what did he do? He visited her and inquired about her health. She was so astonished of his action; She became a muslim.

The pagans boycotted the prophet's whole family (all carrying the name tribe name, muslims and pagans) for three years. They left them with no food or money and would punish anyone who try to help them. When he returned to Mecca after all of Arabia was under his hands, he did not hurt them or take vengeance on them.

He went once to a town called altayef, in what we know now as KSA, to call the people to the all-might. They did not only ignore him but also to drive him out they made lots of people (kids, slaves, women, men) hit him with stones. He bled until his blood made his sandals stuck to the ground. He could have asked God to punish those people severally and wipe them out but instead he asked God to make out of their linage Muslims who would worship the all-mighty.

I could go on and on about his forgiveness to the people who hurt him the most.

He never returned insults with its kind. He would only forgive and pray for those who hurt him. He only wants us, all of mankind, to get God'd mercy and be in his grace so we would go to heaven.

Always My prayers are there for peace and harmony in this world !

May Allah s.w.t Give Patience to All Muslims and a voiceless answer for the Culprits.

meanwhile in the other Islamic country.....Australia.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/an-open-letter-20120915-25ziq.html

The world needs more people like Peter FitzSimons.....btw who is also a great sports columnist.

"...And even the people who made the film why should you do anything to them either, if you don't agree with the films msg you are free to protest about it and not watch it..."

What you say regarding not watching it is true as this is what we can do at present as the person who has made this film is not under the rule of islamic shariah.

However if the person was living in islamic country and if he made such a film then the punishment would have been death due to blasphemy as per islamic law (and rightly so).

Islam permits rational discussion and debates but if people cross the limits of decency then they need to be dealt in a different way.

Wow..nice conversation out here..truly remarkably intelligent discussions.. All ur comments really make sense.. I just hope our some beloved muslims realized that this awful movie does not deserve any attention moreso killings. In going out and being violent to these emabassies defeats the essence of being an islam members. I am sure if Prophet (PBUH) is still alive today he will not tolerate such violent acts. Islam means love for humanity. Muslims means obeying ur prophet (PBUH).

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Dalai Lama says ".. Likewise, we are born free of religion, but we are not born free of the need for compassion..."

We were not born free of religion; As per islam every person is born a muslim.

He also says "...The difference between ethics and religion is like the difference between water and tea. Ethics without religious content is water..."

Without religion there is no ethics; in fact ethics is a small subset of religion; Dalai Lama can win applause from people who have no knowledge of religion however to people who know the basics of religion know that what he is talking is baseless.

These people would love to do the same, but they can't and we all know the reason!

Yes, innocent people don't deserve to die..

Too bad they die everyday :/

shmashoom--you're entirely wrong. If you were in the U.S. and wanted to say those things (or even make a film) you would be entirely within your rights to do so.

Yes, you would be criticized for it, people would protest, etc., but it would be your Constitutional right to do so, and the government would be powerless to stop you. In fact, it would be obligated to protect you if you received death threats. A good example is the white supremacists that will occasionally hold a march in black or minority neighborhood. The police have to show up to protect them, because of all the people who exercise their right to free speech who show up to protest to boo them. You could also burn the US flag in front of the White House.

And I'm not criticizing anyone's right to be angry to to protest peacefully. I think this is a human right that should be allowed in every country.

So If I am a USA citizen and wanted to criticize the Holocaust and say they didnt reach the 5 mil and they were only a bunch of hundreds of thousands or criticize the israeli acts against the palestinians ..would it be ok? I dont think so..everybody will be against me and they will accuse me of anti semitizm and they will never consider it a freedom of speach...this is the main Idea, Their freedon of speach is biased, whenever they want they will say we have freedom of speach, but if it is against them, they will act and wont tolerate. Again, we as muslims are agains killing of innocent people, but also we have the right to be angry when someone or anyone insult us or our religion or prophet (PBUH).

Yep. People who don't like the film have the right to make and equally insulting, mean-spirited film about a group they don't like.

Or better yet, how about more mainstream films that portrays Muslims in a positive light? They would have a much greater impact, especially compared to the low-budget mess in question.

Every USA citizen has the right to free speech and the government cannot do anything about it.so get over it people!

If the Egyptian military loses its aid, my prediction is that things will go very badly in Egypt.

"christian, jews and others have been living with Muslims for more than 1000 year peacefully". When was this? During the Arab conquests, or maybe the crusades, or was it when Ottoman Empire invaded Europe? Jews were more tolerated in some Muslim-dominated cities, but they were also prevalent in cities like Venice, Rome, and Amsterdam.

And the Nazis were hardly self-professed Christians. In fact, many Christian leaders found themselves in the same concentration camps, as the Jews and Gypsies.

I did not say if an innocent muslim get killed, a muslim should kill another innocent christian, and I clearly said the opposite, however that what you said.

Believe me, if you go to Egypt, you will see the Mainstream against the US funding to Egypt.. they don't want it.. and thanks to Allah, countries in the region is rich enough to help egypt and help UK, South Africa and the US with their financial meltdown.

Don't come up with so called muslim killing coptic, coz that have been critisized by Muslilms all over the world.. and christian, jews and others have been living with Muslims for more than 1000 year peacefuly, in fact jews were welcomed in this region when christian did not consder them as human, we know what happend 60 years ago when more than 5 Million jew were killed by christians in Germany.

I don't understand why you guys kill and then portray us to be the bad ones in here.

Appreciate your understanding

khalidglory--so if someone else kills innocents that excuses someone else to kill other innocents? Under your rules, every time a Coptic Christian is killed in Egypt by so-called Muslims then all Christian nations have the right to indiscriminately assault Egyptian embassies and innocent Egyptians.

I'm going with the old adage of two wrongs don't make a right. Perhaps you should too.

The people in the Middle East do care about funding. At least the Egyptian army and the Libyan government do. Thank God the protesters are tiny minority rather than the mainstream you depict them as.

And I do understand; I just don't agree with you. And it is important than you understand those are two very different things.

No, at least till I don't buy the airline from Qatar to Britain. Wait till further notice.

Does that mean that I shouldn't book my seat on the next flight out ...

I was also thinking of stocking up on food at getting my 4wd ready to go for any time..

I can almost palpate the fear amongst westerner. But I seriously don't think there is any reason to feel unsafe in Qatar. They are unhappy & they have a right to express it. Places like Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Sudan, Yemen & Tunisia have other problems . Qatar is not in that boat.

Bachus says "the rioters don't differ between US & and the handful people who made the movie"

I denounce the killing of any innocent person so says the Quran, who describe killing an innocent person is like killing the entire world, however, we don't see that type of distinguishing when the US government kill innocent people across the muslim world, we don't say that "the US governemnt don't differ between the victims in Afghanistan, Iraq and the handful people who killed the peole in NY"

BY the way people in the Middle east don't really care about the congress thinking to cut their financial support,,,their religion is everything to them and they would die for the propohet and here you are trying to scare them by saying that they will lose that aid..... you just don't understand

Adey it is appropriate to the situation, but not to QL. I have read the book.

Interestingly, a number media outlets have reported that the movie and its extract have been around since July. Only when Egyptian television started showing it (and not explaining who produced it) did people get upset. This is irresponsible journalism.

shmashoom said "The problem is that the west do not differ between Islam and Muslims' acts"

Do you mean like how these rioters and murderers are able to distinguish between the United States as a country and the handful of people (probably not even Americans) who made the movie?

I would say this inability to distinguish is AT LEAST as big a problem in the Arab world. I would say Muslim, but with few exceptions this rioting is not going on outside the Arab world.

U r right..but we r not the ones who will control this crowd... i just hope there are some religious or govt leaders who will speak and guide these people.

Besides i do not like the movie & agianst it, but I do love to add .. United States of America represents a nation that includes almost all religions.

A person is responsible of his actions do not load it on top of American Nation.

they are young people, jobless, not well educated, frustrated from the whole world, they got offended by this movie and decided to act this way...I dont agree with them, but many times you cannot control the crowds.

The movie is obviously a stupid one.. If u react inappropriately to an obviously stupid thing it only means one thing..

This act has nothing to do with Islam, Of course All muslims are angry after this movie, but not all of them react the same. The problem is that the west do not differ between Islam and Muslims' acts, if some muslims did something wrong, they will react against Islam and Muslims and Arabs as well, go there and see how badly Muslims and arabs are treated after 11th sep. they didnt consider it a single act by some one or some group. and now they expect all muslims to consider it a single act by some stupid american who abused his freedom.

Muslim of those countries who re indulging in violence should restrain themselves and not kill innocent people.

On Monday the Dalai Lama posted this on his face book page:

"All the world’s major religions, with their emphasis on love, compassion, patience, tolerance, and forgiveness can and do promote inner values. But the reality of the world today is that grounding ethics in religion is no longer adequate. This is why I am increasingly convinced that the time has come to find a way of thinking about spirituality and ethics beyond religion altogether."

'The Tibetan religious leader was quoting from a book he published last year, entitled "Beyond Religion: Ethics for a Whole World," in which he argues that religion by itself may no longer provide a satisfactory solution to the ills of the world.'

'"Any religion-based answer to the problem of our neglect of inner values can never be universal, and so will be inadequate. What we need today is an approach to ethics which makes no recourse to religion and can be equally acceptable to those with faith and those without: a secular ethics," he wrote. '

'A metaphor the Dalai Lama likes to use goes like this: The difference between ethics and religion is like the difference between water and tea. Ethics without religious content is water, a critical requirement for health and survival. Ethics grounded in religion is tea, a nutritious and aromatic blend of water, tea leaves, spices, sugar and, in Tibet, a pinch of salt.

"But however the tea is prepared, the primary ingredient is always water," he says. "While we can live without tea, we can't live without water. Likewise, we are born free of religion, but we are not born free of the need for compassion."'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/dalai-lama-facebook-religion-is-no-longer-adequate-science_n_1880805.html?1347555463&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

Well, so many things are intertwined here. A Libyan was killed by drone attacks in Pakistan. The movie was just a cover for them to take revenge. A possibility.

Lets say, if FBI or any other american security agency can find out and trial that "SINGLE PERSON" who brought the idea of this movie, or the gang of individual who came with producing and sponsoring this idiotic idea?

NEVER......

what else do the rest of the world should expect from a nation who were initially pirates and occupied new lands?

Peace and harmony???

No way......

In this country, Qatar is full of peaceful smart people, this country is peaceful and not following the other muslim countries to act upon themselves over this film.

because the Emir always says, let us( he means his government & staff)take care of anything so inocent people do not get mis-guided & take things into their own hands. They will not allow stupid people to bring rage onto embassies etc, that 1 stupid person tried to make the whole world raging about.

Salam

Completely agree Robherr

Don't these people realise that they are also doing Islam harm by killing innocent people who had NOTHING to do with the film!

And even the people who made the film why should you do anything to them either, if you don't agree with the films msg you are free to protest about it and not watch it.

Turbo thnx i realy appreciate the compliment. Im just disheartened for the deaths due to such an irresponsible film.

Brit maybe bcoz these countries u mentioned r busy helping their citizens to live a better life and trying also to help the world with its God-given oil.

Mimi well said. Freedom of speech must be governed by responsibility. Any abuse is making democracy a stumbling block to peace & prosperity.

Bachus i agree..i think it's about time that these people realize that being violent makes them even dumber and it reflects to their being naive.

At this point of our lives where internet is an easy access to the world we should more of a think-first people. We cant be like organize a violent demonstration for every negative thing we see in tV and internet.

So it means America is stupid who killed hundreds of thousands of innocent pplz for 1 obl and same in iraq for 1 saddam..

But here i will like to add there is no option left with muslims beside coming out of homes, they are tired of being silent and peacefull marchs and strikes coz this is not the first time that something against ISLAM & MUSLIMS rise from america they did this before several times but american govt is totally failed in providing them punishment or take any action against such pplz...

Before they want to burn HOLY QURAN and now this....!!

I think there is a limit of everythng...!!

Now its america's citizens turn (non muslims specially) to come ahead to stop this hatred against ISLAM & MUSLIMS if they really want & are seriois abt to do so..

Well said Robherr

Good to see some intelligent posts on Qatar Living for once!

HIc up sorry

Peace everyone, have a great weekend.

Yes, bravo,

Do not blame the U.S. govt for something they had nothing to do with over some stupid idiot who abused his freedom of speech,

Salam

Well said. Plus these leaders don't put up with such antics.

They're not democracies and they have a reasonably higher standard of living.

Historically, democracy mixed with high unemployment for young men is a fertile ground for radicalism (secularism or religious). This has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with stupid people looking for purpose and to be led, and evil people looking to take advantage.

My grandfather warned me strictly against .. in 1978.

Saudi, Qatar, Kuwait and Bahrain have not had any such troubles. Why is that ?

We all together .. responsible humans .. always pray for peace and harmony in this world !