Anyone know why misspelling is so prevalent in Qatar, including posts in QL? Does it tell something about the quality and precarious careless attitude of the population here? Yes, nobody’s perfect, everybody makes mistakes, but I am sure you know I am not talking about those incidental mistakes.
What bleu says is sad but true. The corrupted American version of English is the standard language of business. Many UK companies produce all their reports etc in American English.
Laborer is American English. The "correct" spelling is Labourer.
QS - I didn't even know there was an option for English (Canadian). I assumed you just spoke like Americans (sorry!). Looks like you have some of their bad habits (Zs instead of Ss), but not all of them if you still use labour instead of Labor.
actually it set for English (canada), and it's ok, i am fine with that. at least it shows me a correct spelling LABOUR instead of LABOR, and NEIGHBOUR instead of NEIGHBOR which i hate to see...:)
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I think what the poster is trying to say is that if someone is, for example, submitting a CV/resume in English then it's really in their own interests to make sure the spelling and grammar are as good as possible. It wouldn't take them long to get it checked over or look a few things up themselves (though as Supernurse proved above even that doesn't mean you wont make mistakes!).
Misspelling on QL really isn't a big issue though, as long as we get the gist of it. (Unless it's deliberate misspelling - i.e. text speak - there's no excuse for that!)
Guys, can’t you see that it’s not actually their language skills that I have issues with? What I am trying to say is that their prevalent misspellings boil down to their general attitude which is none other than being reckless, careless, casual, precarious…
English is not even my mother-tongue but unlike some people who pretends, I realize that English is the primary communication medium used for international business, whether you like it or not.
give people some credit, we are living in the middle east, why focus on their lack of english skills and spelling, at leads they are trying. How is your "Arabic", bet you cant even speak it let alone write it..
well.. in general i agree with you, candidcam. But again, you cannot expect the same level of the professionalism from everyone. As i said, it's not their first language. May be they aren't too good in English, but possess some other unique set of skills, that you and I can only dream of.
As i said,the language is a science, like any other science. Everyone is on his/her own level in this science.
For example, our tea boy cannot calculate the %, for sure not. But he prepares some special tea for me, that I never ever could do by myself.
But in general I agree, unprofessionalism is everywhere in Qatar, in every matter, not only in English. Just try to tolerate it. At least they are trying to improve...
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in our country, the English name matters (i.e. visa) so if somebody types our name wrong, we get them to correct it right away,.. it happened to me one time...
candidcam: you should know that the name that matters on the RP or Visa or Driving License is the Arabic Version, the English is there just for your amusement.
As for resumes, what do you expect from someone who doesn't speak English well (I hate resumes and cover emails where they write like they're on IM )
Many of you guys just don't get it, do you? I am not simply talking about misspelling in English, but they also misspell your names in your visa, in your RP, and in your driving license... yes, that include your blood type. Yes, they don't even bother to write their resume properly when applying for an important job.
There's simply no excuse for this casual & careless precarious attitude. Tolerate it at your own perils!
Well.. it’s actually silly question. The language – ANY language - is a pretty complicated science. And as in any science, if you want to be perfect you need to be highly professional. There are people who r studing the languages at Universities for few years, as a Major subject. They are professionals. Others are dilettantes, some more experienced therefore better, some less experienced (or less talented in this particular field), therefore worse… It’s like in any other field. Some are talented in Math, some in art.. you cannot expect the same level from everyone...Even native speaking people sometimes don’t know their languages on the professional level. What to expect of ppl whose English is second, sometime third or even fourth language?
It’s really not nice to keep pointing on this thing… If you are professional in some field, don't expect everyone to be the same...
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I can neither speak or write indian, arabic, or pretty much any other language for that matter. At least the people on here are attempting to use another language. Native english speakers are so lazy as almost anywhere in the world someone will speak english. Give these guys a break, at least they are trying.
You are in Qatar and Arabic being the first official main language. People from all different nationalities generally expatriates lives here and its quite obvious and natural that we do mis-spell in English (being second language of communication).
The normal process while ordering a signage is to put down in writing exactly what you want and they will reproduce it ... They will even send a paper sample for your proofreading and approval. So, where is the chance of misspelling ?
Actually Candid so and so.......you will find that the CORRECT spelling of 'MISSPELLING' as you quote is actually spelt 'MISPELLING'............smart arse..
From members whose English language skills you know to be good, mistakes are just typos when speed reading and replying. I only scan through Questions, New Forums and Hot Topics. Got no time to surf around. I just take a few minutes to glance through quickly and don't double check much cos too busy. It's not simply "precarious carelessness". Some are too busy rushing through the work day or household chores and taking care of the kids. So we only have short snatches of time taken for quick breaks.
As for misspelling generally - I'll say the level of English in Qatar is not even halfway there yet. I've seen translations of Arabic documents to English and they're really x3 horrible. I can hardly make sense out of them. Still looking for a reasonably good translator. Hope, I've finally managed it. Will see.. hoping for the best.
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im sure you checked your post 3-4 times before making this topic just so that ur post doesn't sound hypocritical
But the spelling's still the same even if the pronunciation is different!
What do you mean English? Each square meter in England speaks a different incomprehensible babble.
(I love these bashing threads ... )
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I hope this doesn't degenerate into American bashing thread. Some people just love conflicts...
Don't accept Bill Gates statement that there is such a thing as "American English".
There is English............end of story. Let them create their own name for it but just don't call it English!
actually these is some difference in spelling even between americans and canadians.
americans spell: labor, color
and canadians spell: labour, colour
cheers! (at least everybody agree on that one :) )
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Well it's your choice, and as you said, "nobody’s perfect, everybody makes mistakes".
Excuse me guys, since I don't have a stiff upper lip like many of you here have, can I keep my preference for American English?
Am I late also??? I found out that "MISPELLING IS THE MISSPELLING OF MISSPELLING.
What bleu says is sad but true. The corrupted American version of English is the standard language of business. Many UK companies produce all their reports etc in American English.
I hate it when my sister writes recognise, colour, organisation ...etc.
The American version is shorter, and more universal ... American English is the language of business.
Laborer is American English. The "correct" spelling is Labourer.
QS - I didn't even know there was an option for English (Canadian). I assumed you just spoke like Americans (sorry!). Looks like you have some of their bad habits (Zs instead of Ss), but not all of them if you still use labour instead of Labor.
Dwelller, "Laborer" isn't correct?
I think you would make a great partner with Supernurse, ...just like Dan Quayle with Sarah Palin.
it just shows a "i don't care attitude"......so prevalent here. the bad customer service, the rudeness,...
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Check your own profile before opening your mouth about spelling.
Laborer isn't correct English!
May be coz ur still in the commonwealth I guess..Long live the Queeen and the Proper English language
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actually it set for English (canada), and it's ok, i am fine with that. at least it shows me a correct spelling LABOUR instead of LABOR, and NEIGHBOUR instead of NEIGHBOR which i hate to see...:)
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Somehow it also says your personality.
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Misspelling - am I too late?
Oxie and Wiki say - Miss, you're shutting the stable doors after the horse has bolted a long time ago...
http://www.askoxford.com/betterwriting/spelling/?view=uk
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QS - that means your MS Word dictionary is set to English (US). Change it to English (UK) for the correct spelling ;-)
Is supercilious or arrogant spelt correctly?? mmmm I think so!
Spelling trolls!!!!
Ya ya ya : )
here you go...
my MS word indicates mistake when I type 'organiSation'. It only accepts 'organiZation'. Although the dictionary on line accepts both spellings..:)
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well.. i agree about CVs, but...again it depends on the position the candidate applies..
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
I saw CVs from people who had it translated and proofread by somebody who supposedly knows English. and it's s**t.
I think what the poster is trying to say is that if someone is, for example, submitting a CV/resume in English then it's really in their own interests to make sure the spelling and grammar are as good as possible. It wouldn't take them long to get it checked over or look a few things up themselves (though as Supernurse proved above even that doesn't mean you wont make mistakes!).
Misspelling on QL really isn't a big issue though, as long as we get the gist of it. (Unless it's deliberate misspelling - i.e. text speak - there's no excuse for that!)
So the title of this thread is misleading.
Carelessness and recklessness are an issue in this part of the world, and we all agree with you on that.
But the spelling issue is an issue of people who don't speak English well (maybe some don't care about learning)
Guys, can’t you see that it’s not actually their language skills that I have issues with? What I am trying to say is that their prevalent misspellings boil down to their general attitude which is none other than being reckless, careless, casual, precarious…
English is not even my mother-tongue but unlike some people who pretends, I realize that English is the primary communication medium used for international business, whether you like it or not.
give people some credit, we are living in the middle east, why focus on their lack of english skills and spelling, at leads they are trying. How is your "Arabic", bet you cant even speak it let alone write it..
well.. in general i agree with you, candidcam. But again, you cannot expect the same level of the professionalism from everyone. As i said, it's not their first language. May be they aren't too good in English, but possess some other unique set of skills, that you and I can only dream of.
As i said,the language is a science, like any other science. Everyone is on his/her own level in this science.
For example, our tea boy cannot calculate the %, for sure not. But he prepares some special tea for me, that I never ever could do by myself.
But in general I agree, unprofessionalism is everywhere in Qatar, in every matter, not only in English. Just try to tolerate it. At least they are trying to improve...
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
in our country, the English name matters (i.e. visa) so if somebody types our name wrong, we get them to correct it right away,.. it happened to me one time...
candidcam: you should know that the name that matters on the RP or Visa or Driving License is the Arabic Version, the English is there just for your amusement.
As for resumes, what do you expect from someone who doesn't speak English well (I hate resumes and cover emails where they write like they're on IM )
Many of you guys just don't get it, do you? I am not simply talking about misspelling in English, but they also misspell your names in your visa, in your RP, and in your driving license... yes, that include your blood type. Yes, they don't even bother to write their resume properly when applying for an important job.
There's simply no excuse for this casual & careless precarious attitude. Tolerate it at your own perils!
Well.. it’s actually silly question. The language – ANY language - is a pretty complicated science. And as in any science, if you want to be perfect you need to be highly professional. There are people who r studing the languages at Universities for few years, as a Major subject. They are professionals. Others are dilettantes, some more experienced therefore better, some less experienced (or less talented in this particular field), therefore worse… It’s like in any other field. Some are talented in Math, some in art.. you cannot expect the same level from everyone...Even native speaking people sometimes don’t know their languages on the professional level. What to expect of ppl whose English is second, sometime third or even fourth language?
It’s really not nice to keep pointing on this thing… If you are professional in some field, don't expect everyone to be the same...
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
I can neither speak or write indian, arabic, or pretty much any other language for that matter. At least the people on here are attempting to use another language. Native english speakers are so lazy as almost anywhere in the world someone will speak english. Give these guys a break, at least they are trying.
QaQc:
a spell checker would miss the meaning:
You are noise. eye lack you .
eye want two here you. butt eye can not.
Victor,
that's why they invented spell checker and dictionary to double check spellings.
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Which one did you use SN?
My dear friend,
You are in Qatar and Arabic being the first official main language. People from all different nationalities generally expatriates lives here and its quite obvious and natural that we do mis-spell in English (being second language of communication).
Aha! Depends which dictionary you use!!
hahah... maybe it was a misstake, lol :D
SN - where did you find out that it's MISPELLING? I think you may need to get a new dictionary, cos everything I've looked at says it's MISSPELLING.
But I want my BEBSI and BOPCORN just the same :-P
remmbr that most beebl hear sbeek inglish as a seknd langage.
lol saggi..
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So, what in the hell is a candidcam?
My spell check does not register that word.
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i almost fell over laughing when an arab colleague asked me once where we can get "Sbare Barts for Bumbs" in qatar!!! :-D LOL!
misspelling is the correct way to spell the word guys... check your dictionaries.
Saw a sign in Salata Jadeed..reading..
"CAR BARKING BEHIND'.
can someone explain why this kind of mistake.. is it coz there is no P in arabic language??
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one of the silliest mispellings i've seen in several places :
PLEASE : PLEAES
CONSTRUCTION : CONSTRICTION
PARKING : BARKING (LOL!)
so many more......can't remember.
what about Mrspelling does she have a say in this too??
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Supernurse, is that so? Misspelling versus Mispelling?
The normal process while ordering a signage is to put down in writing exactly what you want and they will reproduce it ... They will even send a paper sample for your proofreading and approval. So, where is the chance of misspelling ?
you Clever mighty blondie
Actually Candid so and so.......you will find that the CORRECT spelling of 'MISSPELLING' as you quote is actually spelt 'MISPELLING'............smart arse..
what will you feel if you ask somebody to put up a signage for your business with a wrong spelling?
that is not ok!
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From members whose English language skills you know to be good, mistakes are just typos when speed reading and replying. I only scan through Questions, New Forums and Hot Topics. Got no time to surf around. I just take a few minutes to glance through quickly and don't double check much cos too busy. It's not simply "precarious carelessness". Some are too busy rushing through the work day or household chores and taking care of the kids. So we only have short snatches of time taken for quick breaks.
As for misspelling generally - I'll say the level of English in Qatar is not even halfway there yet. I've seen translations of Arabic documents to English and they're really x3 horrible. I can hardly make sense out of them. Still looking for a reasonably good translator. Hope, I've finally managed it. Will see.. hoping for the best.
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I no english..no speling
they just don't care and the only concern they have is to finish the job.
ohh.. one more thing... it is very common in the middle east the words "No Problem" and at the end, everything is #^(
yes i sayings to you more because peoples cummings from deferant Kuntrees who no spooking Inglish Languages
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