referring to? I reread my post and couldn't find anything that I would term as "strong language".
You said that:
"women and men are equal factoring in thier differences. What I mean by this is that women are physically not stronger than men, women get pregnant, etc.
There are differences which you cannot ignore and dealing with them does not jeopardise women's rights.
why do you ingore areas where Islam, for example, gave incentives to women that were not given to men!"
I agree that men and women are physically different.
I would disagree that dealing with these differences does not jeopardize women's rights. I don't think it always does, but it can.
Case in point: another QL thread about the woman in the UAE who had a car accident and lost the 9 month old fetus that she was carrying. Officials in the UAE suggested that women in their third trimester of pregnancy shouldn't drive unless it's an emergency. To me, if this actually became a law, it would infringe on women's rights -- even though those who initiated it THINK that they're protecting women by doing this.
Kind of like how people here tend to think that Muslim women don't HAVE TO go to the mosque to pray. It's nice that women are given the option/choice to pray either at home or in the mosque, but instead how it is practiced here by most Khaleejis that I have met is that it is frowned upon/actively discouraged for women to go to the mosque. While men can see how THEIR going to mosque might help create a greater sense of community and fellowship within their faith, they don't see the same benefit for women and actively impede that happening.
To me, this then becomes a situation where women are denied equal rights.
kaiesj -- your final line about letting Muslim women fight for their own rights if they're feeling deprived of them is a little disingenuous. There are many groups of people around the world who are deprived of their rights, and often times they are not strong enough to turn the tide. While I would agree that you shouldn't force something upon a group if they don't want it, I would also argue that many marginalized populations need others to act as advocates on their behalf.
I genuinely believe that many females in the East want more rights and freedoms than they currently enjoy - so what is wrong if others advocate and work together for them to achieve that? You act like people are trying to proselytize and I don't think that's the case.
"Most plain girls are virtuous because of the scarcity of opportunity to be otherwise."
-- Maya Angelou
referring to? I reread my post and couldn't find anything that I would term as "strong language".
You said that:
"women and men are equal factoring in thier differences. What I mean by this is that women are physically not stronger than men, women get pregnant, etc.
There are differences which you cannot ignore and dealing with them does not jeopardise women's rights.
why do you ingore areas where Islam, for example, gave incentives to women that were not given to men!"
I agree that men and women are physically different.
I would disagree that dealing with these differences does not jeopardize women's rights. I don't think it always does, but it can.
Case in point: another QL thread about the woman in the UAE who had a car accident and lost the 9 month old fetus that she was carrying. Officials in the UAE suggested that women in their third trimester of pregnancy shouldn't drive unless it's an emergency. To me, if this actually became a law, it would infringe on women's rights -- even though those who initiated it THINK that they're protecting women by doing this.
Kind of like how people here tend to think that Muslim women don't HAVE TO go to the mosque to pray. It's nice that women are given the option/choice to pray either at home or in the mosque, but instead how it is practiced here by most Khaleejis that I have met is that it is frowned upon/actively discouraged for women to go to the mosque. While men can see how THEIR going to mosque might help create a greater sense of community and fellowship within their faith, they don't see the same benefit for women and actively impede that happening.
To me, this then becomes a situation where women are denied equal rights.
kaiesj -- your final line about letting Muslim women fight for their own rights if they're feeling deprived of them is a little disingenuous. There are many groups of people around the world who are deprived of their rights, and often times they are not strong enough to turn the tide. While I would agree that you shouldn't force something upon a group if they don't want it, I would also argue that many marginalized populations need others to act as advocates on their behalf.
I genuinely believe that many females in the East want more rights and freedoms than they currently enjoy - so what is wrong if others advocate and work together for them to achieve that? You act like people are trying to proselytize and I don't think that's the case.
"Most plain girls are virtuous because of the scarcity of opportunity to be otherwise."
-- Maya Angelou