mess is no longer an accepted form of dicipline for dogs, and shouldn't be for children.

The same goes for smacking them on the nose and hitting them with rolled up newspaper, as the articles says, it all goes on affirming/rewarding positive behaviour.

"if you don't like the heat... get out of the kitchen... but stop trying to fan the flames before you leave... it will burn you on the a** as you go through the doorway...." ME

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