Doha Asian Games Opening Ceremony

Don't GO!!! My source tells me that if Thailand are knocked out in the first round of the basketball tourney. They will start bombing all the venues until the Olympic Comittee decides to grant them a rematch!!!

And don't worry about planes crashing into the football fields, our players are good enough to aim the ball at the steering wheel while the plain is 30,000 feet in the air and change it's direction.

This one is even worse!!

I'm really shocked.. you think this one is fair and fine? That there are no terrorists but the Muslim ones?

soooo soooooo unfair!

If only you guys knew what is Islam ! God, Islam is so great if truly believed in.

Anyway, I’m out now.

If becuase of what is happening is making you think twice about going then you should also Never get on a train or on a plane for that matter!!! Think about it????? :P

The following is a response to 'Eviloops' father...

Not All Terrorists are Muslim

By M. SHAHID ALAM

"While it may be true--and probably is--that not all Muslims are terrorists, it also happens to be true that nearly all terrorists are Muslim."

Dan Gillerman, Israeli Ambassador to the UN, March 7, 2006

Terrorism has long been the chief demonizing marker that Israel and the United States have used in their wars against Islamic states and peoples who have stood in the path of their imperial ambitions.

Israel has led the way in charting this course. With massive propaganda, the Zionists succeeded in equating the Palestinian resistance with terrorism. In no Western country did this propaganda encounter greater success--including Israel itself--than in the United States. Most liberal Americans--and a few leftists--argued that Palestinian terrorists threatened Israel's existence.

After the capitulation of Egypt at Camp David, Israel pursued more lofty ambitions. The original dream of a Pax Israelica, stretching from Morocco to Pakistan, now seemed within reach. Only the newly emerging Islamist forces in the region--notably, in Iran--now stood in its way.

The nascent Islamists offered both a challenge and an opportunity to Israel. If Israel could paint the Islamists as a civilizational threat to the very survival of the West, the American voters could be goaded into supporting Israel's war against the Islamists: or better still, make this war their own.

This is not to discount the lure of Middle Eastern oil for America's power elite. Although the US is the world's only superpower, its relative economic position has been declining for some time. Although the US may not reverse its economic decline, it could solidify its power by gaining control over the world's oil spigot in the Persian Gulf. Europe and China could be tamed if they knew that the US had its hand on the oil spigot.

This temptation was strong, but it also carried risks. In a democracy, moreover, there stands another obstacle. Public opinion in the United States would resist such a major and risky war. Americans, therefore, would have to be prepared for war by conjuring fears of new Islamic hordes gathering to attack and destroy the West, especially the United States.

Israel, the Zionists and their neoconservative allies in the United States began to work on these fears. It would not be too difficult to revive the West's old obsession about fanatical Muslims, forcing their religion upon infidels at the point of their swords. But these atavistic fears would have to be decked anew. The Zionist and neoconservative thinkers would go to work painting Islam as anti-modernist, opposed to freedom, and inimical to the rights of women and minorities. In other words, Muslims were the last remaining obstacle to the final and irreversible triumph of Western values and power.

This was not all. The Zionists also argued that the Muslims were an active and growing threat to the survival of the West. The new forces gathering under the Islamic banner were determined to attack the West. Israel was only their immediate target. After destroying Israel, they would go for the United States and Europe, their real targets. Their goal was nothing less than the imposition of Islamic law on Western Christendom. Most importantly, the Zionists warned repeatedly, the Islamists would use terror--the same tactics they had employed so long against Israel--to destroy the Western economies.

This strategy could scarcely fail to achieve its objective. On the domestic front, Americans were being told constantly of Islamic hostility to modernity, to the West and the United States especially. On the international front, the US and Israel together deepened their siege of the Islamic world, with open wars against Palestinians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Afghans, and threats of new wars against Iran, Syria and Pakistan.

Under these dire circumstances, small groups of Muslims--no more than a few hundred at first--broke away from the mainstream Islamist movements who were battling the repression and corruption of their own governments. These splinter groups advocated attacks against the United States, the 'far enemy' that they argued was the real power behind Israel and the indigenous tyrannies.

When these splinter groups began their terrorist attacks in the early 1990s, the Zionists, neoconservatives, and other assorted right-wing reactionary groups had gained what they waited for. Here was proof, they proclaimed, of the malevolent designs of the Islamic terrorists, the Islamic fundamentalists, nay, of the entire Islamic world. Wake up, the Zionists began telling the Americans. The Islamic terrorists who have been attacking us since 1948 have now attacked you. We face the same terrorist hordes. It is the Islamic world, stupid.

So, when the nineteen hijackers from al-Qaida attacked the Twin Towers, renewed efforts were launched to establish a definitive connection between Islam and terrorism. Some voices proclaimed that all Muslims are terrorists or at least potential terrorists. The US government was not going that far yet. It proclaimed that it was waging war against Islamic terrorists, not against Islam.

What the US government did after 9-11, however, sent exactly the opposite message. It launched a war against Iraq, a secular Arab government, opposed to the Islamists and with no known connection to the perpetrators of 9-11. It gave up its pretense of playing the honest broker between Israel and the Palestinians. It launched plans to effect 'regime change' in Syria and Iran. US intentions in the Middle East were summed up ominously in its plans to bring 'democracy' to the region. The real plan--long a part of Israel's strategic plan for the region--was to redraw the map of the Middle East.

The advocates of civilizational war in the United States were not yet resting on their laurels. They had not achieved quite what they wanted. They wanted all-out, open war against the Islamic world. They wanted the US to equate Islam with terrorism, and Muslims with terrorists. They wanted to deport Muslims who called the West their home, or shut them up in internment camps. They wanted to legalize the torture of Muslims, and their indefinite detention. Indeed, they were celebrating the loss of their own liberties as a necessary tool in the war against Islam.

Unremittingly, Israel, the Zionists and neoconservatives are pushing the United States to start the total war against Islam. They work openly, covertly and by deceit. On the ideological front, their goal is to define all Muslims as terrorist. This goal appears to be nearly in sight. They have persuaded many Americans that all terrorists are Muslims even if all Muslims are not terrorists.

A tenuous distinction indeed, if there was one. If all terrorists are Muslims, and we cannot tell the bad ones from the good ones, can we then afford to give 'good Muslims' the benefit of the doubt? Can the West risk its survival on so fine, so tenuous a distinction? Should the West risk its survival on this distinction?

The charge that all terrorists are Muslims is a scarcely concealed advocacy for war against all Muslims. It does not matter that this equation is false. The claim that Saddam Hussein had WMDs was also false; so was his connection with the 9-11 hijackers. But these lies were used to invade, occupy and devastate Iraq. If this new falsehood prevails, and it appears to be gaining ground, this is what will drive the war against Islam--the most deadly after the second World War. Duped into rage, Americans will stand four square behind the war of the twenty-first century to defeat the Islamo-fascists, to eradicate the Islamic terrorists. Once this is over, they can enjoy the glories of yet another American century.

M. Shahid Alam is professor of economics at Northeastern University

I guess eviloops is a sister of Bush as that guy

even gives statements without using his sense but

I am quiet surprise leaving at qatar where majority

of people are muslims you say something like this or

beleive like this, Did you ever tried to find what

Islam is all about if not kindly do so,

Did you ever seen a single voilent incident at qatar,

I am sure you never as I feel this is the most safest

place where ppl are so caring and loving there is not

place for hatred leave the terriosim alone.

Peace

Ramadaan Kareem

Saif

Unfortunately most of the ones in the news today are. Of course one could mention state-sponsored terrorism...

There are many many terrorists in this world who are not Muslim. Think IRA atrocities, think right wing American extremists such as the Oklahoma Bomber Mc Veigh, Animal Rights extremists, Anti Abortionists etc. If you want I can give you an extensive list of non muslim terrorist organizations.

Terrorism is an evil which is used by all extremists of every religion and race. It is not just the domain of muslims although the western media and the US government would like us to believe it is.

Now I get it......so many negative appeals to this little quote of my fathers....I think I need to improve on the typings skills as after rereading and checking what the problem with the post was, I noticed that it should have read:

"NOT all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim!" (in recent news!)- I forgot the NOT!!!!

that's it now...Ive cleared my case....lets let it lie!

Cheers

Eviloops XX

apology accepted, there is no need to go into this any further i think.i dont think there is anything wrong in really being frank about ones opinions in this forum as long as one can defend it and stick to itbut most importantly face the wrath of others who dont agree or who take offence.

misunderstandings take place, and my apologies if u feel i was too strong on your case, but yup, i decided to give the benefit of doubt too.

finally lets seek peace and more communication with one another to have a better understanding of one another.

I come in peace......honestly. I would like to sincerely apologies for any misunderstandings here. To clarify the situation, I agreed that not all Muslims are terrorists. I would never be so blaze about such a personal or political opinion on an open forum. That in itself would be a crime!

Jeez guys, this wasn't intended to offend, merely reiterate the importance of how we all are able to live in "eutopia" despite colour, creed, language or religion.

Hope this clarifies the situation - sorry to all those I offended and I hope this what ive clarified is reflected during the Doha Asian Games.

Peace...

i do hope that we have misunderstood eviloops and that she didnt mean what she has written, but i would assume that being a school teacher, you would be more in comand with your choice of words, after all you are in the business of parting knowledge,you cannot have a prejudiced opinion, but then again this is an open forum, maybe she didnt mean to hurt anyone's sentiments by her comments.

like i said earlier, lets live in peace, and try to understand one another.

On reflection I think we must have misunderstood eviloops. I think she meant that she agreed that not all terrorists are muslims. This is certainly true. Terrorism has a long and appalling history that hugely predates the current Al Qaeda involvement.

Perhaps eviloops will clarify her position but in the meantime let's give her the benefit of the doubt.

i can understand your father having such a strong opinion, maybe he hasnt met any muslims and the only ones he knows are through the news.

but what about you?just bcos your father said so, doesnt make it right. and what made you hesitantly, after a lot of thought that you have given, agree with that.

is it basically the lure of good money that has brought you here, in the midst of your so called bad people, which world do you live in? lets live in harmony and try to understand one another.

Thanx for this answer i like it very much

Hi

i am 34 year old working in Qatar as computer engineer looking for friends

We must take into account that some people are very small minded!! and do not understand everything. I have lived in the Arab world for over 8 years and find that the majority of Arab people are jsut like me "A PERSON"...people with hopes and fears like everyone else.

If this thred reads correctly then I may as well never go back to England as the last attempted terrorist action in the UK were Brits!

We are the future, tommorrow's people and it is our responsibility to correct our parents when they are wrong.

thinks all muslims are terrorists and he is about as moronic as it gets. I feel sorry for your father and also for you if that is what you really think. I also worry for the primary school children you teach if you really believe that "after much thought" all muslims are terrorists.

There is enough misunderstanding, hatred and paranoia in the world without adding to it in the form of ignorant sweeping statements.

Your father sounds just like mine...my condolences, I know what it's like to have a loser for a father, but I suggest you grow up and realise that fathers are not always right, sometimes they can be very very wrong.

First of all, I very much love ALL fathers :-)

BUT, with all my respect.. Yours by saying THAT is being THE terrorist. I’m a Muslim, according to him and you “hesitantly� I’m a terrorist..which I see as a great deal of an insult. I don’t think I agree with both of you :-D

I’ll never say that Christians , Jews or Buddists..Americans, Saudis or Israelis etc are terrorists. My father will never make me a racist against any nation. Humans can be terrorists regardless what their religions , nationalities are.

I very much understand your father’s view but yours is a bit difficult for me to understand. For the God's sake, you're living with us. Are we terrorists? ..All of us? Oh my Godddd

Peace!!

Hey Eviloopy,

What the...? Your father told you all Muslims are terrorists!?? OK so you have a bigoted moron for a father... but are you an idiot as well? "...I hesitantly agreed after much thought..." Actually, after not much thought, I can say that you are.

How many terrorists have you seen here so far? Are you aware that the majority of residents in Qatar are Muslims? If you really believe that all Muslims are terrorists why prey are you here? Why dont you go back to lala land, where ever that maybe.

cheerio...

I am from Canada and do you know what I did New Years Eve 1999? Nothing! While Millions of people were out there celebrating the new Millenium, us Canadians and Americans were at home waiting for planes to fall from the sky. Everyone is so scared about what might happen that we stay home and do nothing instead of enjoying the short life that we have to enjoy! I had a partner in real Estate who was attaced by two men and left for dead. In Canada, just outside Toronto, imagine that. If something is going to happen to you it will and it doesn't matter where you are. And if it is not your time then enjoy your time while you can. Besides if something happens at the games then my husband won't bring me and my family to Qatar and I won't get to meet all you lovely people!

Cheers!

My father told me before I move to the Middle east that all Muslims are terrorist but not all terrorists are muslim in the recent years.....I hesitantly agreed after much thought........

Why on earth would they wish to bomb their own????

No worries on my behalf and I'll eat my hat if we get bombed as Im that sure that nothing will happen to use...

Look at it as a lifetime experience...have fun and enjoy it...

ch XX

I'm going to the games. After all the inconvience of the traffic, I might as well attend a venue or two. Plus, terroism can happen anywhere, any place at anytime. Don't live life in fear or the terroist win!