Today's discussion was actually quite sensible.  But then I think the crazies were on a different thread today.

Any discussion on veils here seems to get everyones chuddies in a twist!  

And specially in matters of national security one cannot afford to oppose the law as it may very well bring about your own destruction and endanger the lives of others which is never right or Islamic!

That's true Frenchie.  This whole veil issue in Australia is a direct attack on Muslims, specifically because one Muslim woman, Carnita Matthews, accused a police man of trying to rip off her veil.  She was unaware that the whole encounter was being filmed on the police car's security camera.   She was sentenced to 6 months in jail, but that was overturned.  Why?  Because when she lodged her complaint with the police she wore a veil, therefore the police couldn't be sure it was her.  So now one lying, deceptive and immoral Muslim woman has gone and ruined it for all the decent Muslim women in Australia. 

Most of the Arab Tourist that go to Australia go to Queensland anyway..:)

When i came to the gulf, i found my self being aroused by women totally covered with only their eyes visible.  I couldnt work it out, it was driving me crazy.

Eventually a physchiatrist solved the puzzle for me.  he said it was some kind of arousal reversal stemming from all those years as a young man being aroused by photos of naked women with their eyes blacked out. :-P

Are they expatriates to go somewhere?

Yes, I am very sensitive to the issue.  I personally think they are completely unnecessary anywhere, but I respect the right of women to choose to wear them, just like I respect a woman's right go topless.  But when either makes an imposition on the cultural norms of a society, I oppose it--i.e. veils in France and going topless at a Qatar beach.I am just glad to see that Australians are being sensible on this after that thread awhile back with woman abusing the police officer and making false claims.

Frenchie seems to be addicted to veils, brit.

Will we be now going off at a tangent to discuss the veil and cultures again :O)

But she protected her modesty and prevented the man from thinking sexually about her.  That is all that matters.

A Qatari girl attended an IELTS exam. Since the invigilator was a man, her father removed her from the exams. He insisted on a female invigilator. The institute was not able to change the invigilating schedules. Therefore, the girl could not attend the exams. This is a good example of how a weird tradition amputates young girls of their opportunities.

The law would allow police to direct motorists and others to remove their face coverings if they had reasonable grounds for suspecting that breaches of security might occur or that breaches of the law might have occurred.

An Islamic Association spokesman rightly said that they had no problem with the new laws.

"The only thing is that if there is a female officer present then it's preferable for the female officer to check the identity of the female who's wearing a face covering," he said. "The security of the country and general law and order take priority over issues of choice of this nature."

I am quoting a Qatari:"If you don't like it, leave!"

This is a racist attack hiding behind so-called security laws as usual.

If in Rome, do as the Romans do. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. What else?