Pepper Spray for Self Defense for woman

By angel_surfer •
I thought of buying a pepper spray here in qatar. I was adviced by my brother to have one for self defense. just this morning when I was waiting for my carlift, there were 4 male students, about 14 to 17 years of age, walked along my back side. one of this male wearing the arabic white dress/tobe with a chechered red and white turban on head, touched my butt! i fought back his arms in a hastily and rude manner and walked away from them. they just walked as if nothing happened. what a hell are they doing with ladies here?! it sucks!
now the question...are pepper sprays legal here in qatar? please help! im beginning to get upset in the area.
Pepper Spray is useless. Rizks bought some as protection through Doha Jadeed.. He didn't realise that the local residents were used to hot curries :O(
A big possibility that has provoked this behavior is the way you were dressed. Wearing tight/short cloths may indicate that you are seeking attention, especially in our society. At least that's what I think.
and age isn't a criteria by the way when someone wants to do something wrong.
just as it isn't when someone wants to achieve something in their lives.
I can only share what was relayed to me years ago when I met an elderly American lady whilst on a break in our yoga classes. and this lady had survived an attack by Ted Bundy whilst she was studying in Uni.
she said that her screaming saved her.
no doubt she was one of the lucky ones who escaped.
yes she moved on with her life. but regardless, she still was unable to sleep at nights - had nightmares - and so on. she was lucky as she had supportive friends, a loving family etc.
Bundy didn't expect her to scream and let go of her neck.
basically, you need to tell your friends/ your family/ classmates. have a support system. emergency numbers both local/ home/ friends/ classmates/ etc. just in case.
if possible, try and go with your classmate/ colleague/ etc. always have your BB/ iPad ready. if you have an iPad get one with a wifi and sim connection that allows you to connect anywhere.
do not give in just because you feel you won't get help.
Angel Surfer:-
can suggest "screaming for help"
those who do such depraved things are
1. amoral/ perverse/ depraved
2. bullies
3. weak-minded
that is why they do so in packs or if alone; perhaps if they see you as a passive person.
-when you scream they don't expect you to do such a thing.
-they do expect submissiveness.
Can anybody just simply say... is pepper spray "YES" legal or "NO" not legal to use in Qatar.
ofcourse but if you invite boys to walk along your backside....thats just asking for trouble :0......and in public!! Tut tut!!
flor,it wasn't my thread isn't it?so complain to the OP.
better slow down! Take a deep breath and then post again! Do some browsing so you won't repeat old issues already debated before!
how i wish i can do the same to any one who'll gonna mess up with me..lol ;)
and you'll know where you'll end up?
Mean u were good enough confident n past... :)
Brit... Dont give benifit to some one else :((
There can't be many Sikhs with red turbans in Doha.. should be easy to identify..
i think i can contribute something related to your story, during my elementary days, one of the baseball players keeps on teasing me that i was so annoyed and fed up that i can't take it anymore..that i pull his baseball bat and hit him at the back..he can't believe that i can do it..from then on, he try to avoid me as much as possible and he stop teasing me..he learn his lesson in a hard way..
One thing more.. Then u will always try that some one mess with u, so that u can do the experiment.. M worried... :-/
Hahahah... U wanna em up completely... But u cant keep that n ur purse.. Think like m damn serious ;p
I read a story related to this... Girl spit on boy face saying that this is the punishment.. And they became psyco.. And was washing his face every five mins.. Thinking that spit is still present on his face.. And n the end that made him to such s condition that he did suicide...
The worse thing n life is a worse insult by opposite sex.. That make a person mad..
water gun?hahaha..brilliant idea..i'll put something from the toilet bowl..lol ☺
Keep water gun n ur purse with some sticky fluid or gum inside... ;)
so if pepper spray is not allowed then what we'll gonna bring or something as a defense weapon?
ingeneiro is right! people need to learn how to respect others, male or female.
angelina, i dont own the side walk so where ever they walk, its their choice.
To the OP, if there is a Western/Europea woman nearby, ask her for help - being one, I will certainly assist you and I think most of us (having been in your circumstance in our own countries) would do the same.
Well if you did allow them to 'walk along my backside'..........Heavens!!
did u mind the word DEAR??
and ya i agree with you.. respect is for every one..
may be they forgot every thing.. else respect for others especially for females is one of the most important objective..
but as we all know, every where these culprits are present..:/
DEAR?
Anyway, what is teaches should be practice. Seems the boys involved here lack teachings or lack obedience to what they were taught, respect to fellowmen (not necessarily to women only).
ingeniero, maybe some have misunderstood that somehow?
respect is for every one dear.. this is what our religion teaches us..
walking alone, better follow Nomerci's advice, wear an abaya over your cloth. They will think you're a Muslim! They will have second thought of even getting near you!
beware of those who agree with the nasty behavior of teenagers. prepare your pepper spray for them.. you know who to hit when you're in trouble!
Some nationalities in the Gulf are considered cheap and liable for abuse without any fuss. How do you explain a situation whereby someone abuses you and you just say " Yes Sir OR Al baab" Dont you have your country ? Children have watched this and now want to prode this patience further.
teenagers are allowed to do such things..
i object..
if they were not stopped, future for girls in doha will be unpredictable...
i pray that it not happen again with u in future...
qatar malayalai, have you ever ben to Saudi? If not, go, and then we talk again.
I only said it might hlp her if she wears an abaya and covers her face to not show her nationality. As it is sadly, rather common for the women of her nationality to get pestered...more so than others, to my knowlege.
Alter Dusty - until you are approached by a group of people who are larger than you and who touch you in an inappropriate way - you have no idea what you are talking about - hope there are no groups of teenagers looking for someone in your demographic.
qatar govt should stricltly make a rule to cover all ladies, (either national or resident) other than face and hands with abayas....
The projection makes teenagers mad.. insane
AD, no , I don't know what you mean:/
And I agree, making a fuss abut it on QL does not exactly help.
But the post was really about the legality of pepper spray,non?
Yes nomerci, definitely if i couldn't teach him on the spot, how to behave with women, else i wouldn't make it a big puss on QL.
btw, most probably he the teenager could be pretty inspired with modern tv programs, where touching someone unknown body parts in public by teenagers, is not a big deal, and U know what i mean?
Hmm., AD, so you would say " come on it's only a teenager " if he touched your mother's/sister's /wife's butt?
Wear an abaya and cover your face. It might help if they don't realize your nationality.
come on
they were just teenager.
ok, i'll take it from you ingeniero. but i just hope i wont experience this anymore.
i have imagined the respect they have for women before i came here but my expectations was a failure.
rules are same every where.. its not like that, that the local will say or do any thing they want.. in qatar rules are same for all.. So don't worry.. if they are 4 then what? not better then you.. so don't worry.. be confident. do the insult at the best. and do the rest i told you.. why they became like this.. just because of those who didn't said any thing to them and remain silent.. today they are doing it in public without fear..
why dont you give her wicket.. she can use that on them better...
Angel.... always keep ur courage with u to stand up for ur rights when bullies are around.. been there & done something not quite bad but serves its purpose..of defending myself... ^_^
i had almost throw stones to cars/drivers who would stop & ask unnecessary queries ;P
Nonetheless, be cautious at all times... ^_^
einalem or melanie :), ladies become poor victims of bullies here! i wish there will be rules here that women are allowed to carry such self defense materials.
vivme, not all nationality will bother to help during times like this, instead they might as well beleive the culprit's side. i dont know. justice might not be anywhere in here.
Sickening really..Next time best holler loudly and tell all! keeping quiet and giving em dirty looks will not do. But pepper spray? No way.
it happened to me also and there were some people around but no one ever bother to help. Pepper spray is a good idea!
you need not wait and look for people of your own nationality.. When in trouble I think most people can recognise it would be happy to help. It only takes some company to drive these nuts off...
These are the kind that bring disrepute to an otherwise calm country..
Don't worry, just be on your guard and you will be fine..
hey guys! i agree with marycathrine.. i have thought of shouting or screaming and tell bad words towards those filthy teenagers but i looked around and i havent spotted anyone with nationality same as mine so atleast i can run to. i thought people around may just look or laugh at me instead of helping me.
arabian princess, i also thought of slaping his face but there's 4 of them. though teenagers, they are far stronger than a woman and they can do anything because this is their teritory. glecs is right too but in some point ingeneiro has a point. maybe before i weigh things on what to do with those youngsters, they're all gone laughing at poor victims.
wait for the twists and sub plots to appear :)
its getting difficult to walk here even people stare at u as if u r some grilled chicken..i guess there is no concept of pedestrians here in qatar people just stop by to give u alift even if u do not ask for one....and angel u could have given him a slap..next time he would think twice even when touching his own butt..!!!
There were 4 of them - while I understand your wish to protect yourself of all the advice above only an alarm of some kind would be the one I recommend. Anything else, including fighting back might provoke them into doing something worse.
keep a needle with with u and poke it...as he did
oldest trick in the book..:D
you can borrow my cricket bat.
grow your finger nails, next time they do that scratch them on the face as deep as you can.
I agree with glecs, pepper spray can do you more harm than good here in Qatar. Better follow some of ingeniero's advice/tip. Be defensive at all times. Take care.
Pepper Spray?
Here. In. Qatar. You are having a laugh love.
You will be carted away before you can say - eek!
Welcome on QatarLiving!
better to learn few arabic abuses, use them when ever u need them.. and Slap him on face.. as you do in your country.. don't feel like its not your country.. take care of it, be responsible.. and if some cheap youngster do such an act..ABUSE... the best for them.. destroy their ego. there confidence..
i really get upset when i listen or see such stories.. why the heck people are doing such filthy things. and why other suffer...
legal or not, it may just put you into trouble. your intention of defending yourself is good but it may lead you to jail. justice system here is not for everybody.
Using pepper spray may cause more issues. Perhaps its better to get an alarm keyring instead
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