Those who lifted us up are left behind :(

from the points you have,Rizks looks like he has a lot of free time,seems like you got a nice boss at work, More power to ya.

black and Yellow striped rickshaw (:

Thanks LLR

And as No one answered ,, No one won

But HGL has Consolation prize

Tuk tuk and a trip to Wakrah! :)

No worries dude :) we already had sufficient discussion.

cool I will run it over then

LLR am also sorry for the hijack ,, and this is the last Hijack comment

HGL ,, Wrong answer ! :O(

Qatar refused to let you go :p

Marco ,, We have a Tiida, think about it

:((((((((((((((

I been to Bangalore before, so I don’t need the tickets!

I’d love me some 2013 FG though.

lol Sulieman...I said I am one...:) OK update it...I am the only one...do I qualify for LC and free tickets...:)

Sorry LLR for participating in hijack!!!

HGL,, Answer the Question and win the ticket

Simple and easy :)

Suli: win an LC /: u sound too confident saying that!

Sulieman...you didnt want the people to return from Bangalore, I gave the option...:) So send them to Bangalore and if it is for free count me in too..:)

Knowing the great Indian tradition of taking care of the parents and the elders in the family this incident is just tragic.

Having a big house but no family to call on or food to eat tells the tale of everything that’s wrong with the world today.

May She Rest In Peace. Amen

there'r many mental asylums

HGL ,, LOL

Then where do you recommend to send them? :)

In Bangalore there is exit permit system..I will arrange so that they dont get it...:)

painther .... If we send them now they will come back later :O(

Add on that we still have many others out of this thread

painther ,,, Do you have an answer :O)

Try any number you may win!!

no sulie, im a negative person, choking amongst positives, many of them are preachers!!!

I wish they all get the free tkt and go Bangalore n stay there, leaving us in freedom here:):)

LOL sulie :):):)

Count the psychopaths in this thread and win a Land cruiser and a trip to Bangalore

Risks is great...I mean in QL...see his points

ROFL

:):):)

Its upto you !

I didnt force you to agree on me, i just said wat i felt.

"Parents mostly are a failure"...I dont agree to tat !

If your parents were a failure, doesnt mean everyones are the same.

Should add in there, be good to your siblings as well, cause in this case the lady only had siblings to take care of her and they didn't.

Jade, do you write your responses in your own language and then put them through google translate?

SA, I agree completely. Lead by example. Be good to your parents and be good to your kids and you won't be forgotten.

If you want your kids to be good with and do not forget you as they grow up, then you should also not forget your parents and you should be good with them.

Can we conclude it please as she very clearly expresses in her signature that you cannot be comprehend with her and here it looks the other way. QL is taking care of her presence as the prison on abusing parents. It is the fault of somewhere a society where one comes from or it happens with the brought up and these cases remain at edge. Hence the profession of psychiatrist is very important with mnay counselling centers in those societies compared to indian.

We see vary many of them all over who cannot be comprehended with good.

Oh i c but thank you very much for sharing that link. Those statistics are very shocking and eye opening as well, as kids are the future and they are the leaders for tomorrow. Parents/teachers play a vital role in building up their mind.

It really helped Mimi. Thank you.

again,,,,,What was this topic related to ??

I'm not considering any statistics LLR, I'm stating a hypothetical question, that sadly is played out around the world on a daily basis.

Very well said Stacy. If I am able to forgive a stranger why cant I forgive my parents?

Mimi Are you considering the "Physical Abuse" statistics as rape?

A lot of child abusers never go to jail LLR, or are released eventually. Why should their children, who they abused, look after them?

It's not about them... It's about you.

Are you in peace with yourself for not forgiving and forgetting? You feel justified by letting them rot in earth and in hell for their wrong doing towards you? Are you in contempt and *is* happy about it?

The reason why they did what they did to you was probably the same reason what you having right now.

So if you answer YES to all of them. Then yes, to each of their own... I can't judge you by your own inequity.

Mimi I think if they raped their kid, they will end up in jail where Government will take care of them. But if they are in home or not arrested with any such crime, they should not be left as such just cuz they scream at you or do something which makes you unhappy.

why you are stuck in 'rape' all the time ? :(

So if a father or mother rapes their child are they not a danger to others? Do they deserve to be taken care of?

Of course I do believe it, in courtesy of others safety.

Yes because they are living beings and I am not selfish and I would like to help them at least as a stranger.

If two cars colloid on road, if the person who was speeding and driving reckless left injured, would you help him or not?

will you let him to die just cuz s/he made a mistake?

Forgiveness is always an option and Kindness is free, not business. Kindness is caring or loving people more than they deserve.

I thought you believed in the death penalty LLR?

If you were abused by your parents why would you want to help them behind the scenes?

She was 53 years old. Too young to die of starvation in a affluent neighborhood. She wasn't even old enough to apply for negligence lawsuit.

Why the dependency on others? Was she mentally unstable? Is her family also well to do people?

The neighbors probably didn't give a freaking care because they thought she was rich enough to hire people to help her.

Money and Greed poisons everything. It creates false sense of security that everything is going to be alright. In a materialistic world, altruism is dead. Half of the modernised cultures in this world doesn't even know if Altruism ever exist.

StaceyR ..totally agree with your last para....

Agree with you Mimi , if parent abuse their own kid, kids have no obligation to them. My point is that they can do it voluntary at least without coming into picture, behind the scenes.

I know one parent who dont like to meet or see their kid's face just cuz she got pregnant in UK at 18 when she was asked to wait for few more years..

Regardless of what relationship we have with another being, voluntarily we can help one another.

well said Fathima :u

now where was it said anywhere about a child being abused by their parents??????????????

Thelo.... I never said I know everything or I am the only intelligent person in this world... But I very well know my culture and we come from a Country where we are taught to respect and take care of the sick and elderly people..

The story specially touched me cos this is something I fear for my dad and my beloved auntie that helped raise me, who by personal choice live solo.

And yes it is something I fear for myself as well. The trials of old age are truly heavy.And being left alone to deal with them is to me a scary prospect. There is actually a prayer we make asking God to give us providence, sanity and ease in our old age.. something we all must long for!

Mimi Considering the statistics they have given ,it seems that even asking kids to go and study with a high toned voice also has considered as abuse or may be I am wrong as it is hard to believe or I may say it is shocking to know "2 out of every 3 children have been physically abused".

The amount of abuse is irrelevant anyway. My point was that if a child is abused by his or her parents than he or she has no obligation to them, because they have failed in their obligation to the child.

The fact is....this deceased Lady in question didn’t have children so this discussion is irrelevant to the context..

I was correcting her belief painther, obviously she had a very protected childhood. Sadly, many children don't have that protection.

btw mm your over 66 years old, how are you still here, after 60 they boot you out and bring in fresh faces.

MM, what i read, she referred her experience while growing up, personal observations, nowhere did she mention- NO child abuses!!

Quote, 'Child abuses by parents are very very less at least in our childhood...there might be isolated cases...unquote.

....but no issues, India bashing does make a healthy B+ environ, in QL :):):)

And my link proves that neither of those statements are true LLR.

mm, why are you basing your thought from the web? have some originality.

Mimi, I think Gypsy did not say "None" , she said less.

Thelo, your parents had fun and you are their outcome.

You are having fun, coz your parents had fun so it so funny to see how funny everyone had fun...:)

Tea Time.

child abuse/child labor/rape/drugs/crime,,, its everywhere on the face of this earth.

I never said there was no child abuse elsewhere painther, it was GG who said there was none in India.

Thelo...Did they give you food and education... you always proudly say that you are one intelligent person and rest are all idiots... is that because of the education they provided you? After having fun ..when you are born they could have chooosen to put you in the garbage...

..and here's link for Child abuse in Aruba (for MisMimi)..i'm sure she may be from somewhere else, QL falsification is termed smart thesedays:):)

http://www.amigoe.com/english/133528-unicef-concerned-about-child-abuse-on-aruba-and-curacao

Some of the comments on this forum explain precisely what’s wrong with today’s society.

GG is the one who said there's no child abuse in India Rizks, I was correcting her.

Child abuse cases are not only in India but in almost in every country !

Use the same link for child abuse cases for the country you are living.

Here's a link from UNICEF on child abuse BY PARENTS in India. Seems pretty widespread actually.

http://www.unicef.org/india/media_2892.htm

I see here that people are portraying the old lady in negative forms. Yes, at times they tend to talk to themselves(as one of the person said here)or may scream. They can have an emotional breakdown/depression considering their age.and they might shout at their kids. But a mother's anger never lasts longer.

No matter how good or bad they are we must never forget that we are here today because of them. The person who is dead might have a real story which will never be revealed and nobody is guna know about it either ever. rather than drawing void conclusions thank god for who you are and because of whom you are here today

Lonius You mean your father did not have fun with you because he did not marry you? Or correct me please.

but arent you the result of your father ?

I said Child Abuse by PARENTS....

GG, no worries they'll pick some negative story from india and play; that makes their day,useless otherwise,

#happensinQL

Bullsh** GG. I'm sure a quick google search of child abuse in India will alleviate that false statement pretty darn quickly.

Thelo I pitty your parents....:( I wish you are an Orphan...

MissM... Maybe abusing children is common in west... but in India....even if a mother dont eat she will feed her child... but there are sons and daughters who after marriage move to some other cities and don’t have time to check on their parents or help them financially if needed… they might be busy with other priorities in life....that is so wrong...they don’t realize that Karama is a bitch and their children will be doing the same thing towards them….

Child abuses by parents are very very less at least in our childhood...there might be isolated cases...

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/bangalore-woman-lay-dead-for-four-months-in-her-sprawling-bungalow-408358

Gypsy Its here they updated this article few mins ago , after I reported here in QL.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/bangalore-woman-lay-dead-for-four-months-in-her-sprawling-bungalow-408358?pfrom=home-otherstories

why so hue n cry, everyone has to die one day, she too died, there's always a reason to die, it may be hunger, or overeating or organ failures,.....

what happens afterwards is NO concern to her,

just a civic mistake by her neighbors to not further investigate foul smell and decompose dead body;

.....No reason to overplay emotions!!

I do agree to take care of parents/old people while they're alive if they wish to, if not like this lady, let them enjoy their life in their way.

Karrena where did say that she was talking to herself?

I know Kareena, as a parent I cannot imagine harming my child in that way. Those people are monsters. Yet people on this site say the boy OWES them!

Icapall, parents CHOOSE to have children. They CHOOSE to love and raise them in a safe and secure environment. If they beat and sexually abuse and hurt their kids than they aren't living up to their obligation to their children, and their children have no obligation to them. My parents are lovely, I would never dream of abandoning them, however I do know people who were horribly abused by their parents and I don't blame them for having nothing to do with them.

The story about Daniel is really heart breaking.. I was in the UK last month when it happened and it was all over the news channels and newspapers.. Each time I would see that innocent boys picture, I would start crying..

miss mimi, it does not matter how she treats her kids, the son/daughter owes there life to there parents. After all there the ones that gave them life, you on the other hand maybe had a bumpy relationship with yours.

on NDTV where it has been reported.. Seems like she was a pshyco bitch.. Used to talk to herself and scream at people.. No wonder people kept away from her including her own family.

GG well said and MM is not an indian lady so her views will be different as she expressed. But very sad indians too in the name of copying from other cultures the freedom of expressing/speech are becoming outlawed/immoral/unsocial characters.

Given the extent of abuse some children face GG, it might be best if their mothers did abort.

Should Daniel Pelka, if the poor tyke had lived, been obligated to take care of his mother when she grew old?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/02/daniel-pelka-mother-stepfather-jailed-life

MissM...carrying a child in the womb for 9 months is also an obligation... she didnt choose to abort the child!!

Yes...but I dont blame the brother... we dont know what was her relation with her brother...

MM very rude of you.

To my surprise is not her daughter who could have been like MM. It is the indian society who generally are not so aloof from their neighbours . . . stone hearted, they really have degraded as humans who have not bothered to find out about her; never even peeped to find out about her - shocking.

I'm sorry, if a parent does not live up to the responsibility of raising there child in a safe, sound and loving environment. If a parent neglects or abuses a child, than that child has no obligation towards that parent. If I abused my children I would not expect them to be there for me when I grew old.

Gypsy I mean she has siblings. She has brother.

MissM... how horrible a mother is...she did take care of her child till the child is old enough to do her own things. So there is a moral obligation for the child to repay that.

LLR..where does it say that she got a daughter? it says she is spinster...

Whatever its such a horrible situation..This is what happens to some Single people at the end...they keep neighbors and relatives away..thinking that they will take all their money/assets. What is she gonna do with her money and house now?

Moral of the story is....While alive be good and compassionate to fellow human beings...you will at least have a stranger to help you in your last days...

Sad news.

Mimi would you let your five to six years Kid Rot if s/her do all those witchy things you mentioned?

I think when people grow old they are like kids.

then one day ur kids will too say the same "I'd let her rot"....:(

I'd let her rot.

In my opinion , Yes still. Even she dont meet, she can call her and say Hello. My thoughts are like, if the other person is wrong or bad or the worst, there is goodness inside me which I cant take it off just cuz the other one is treating me bad.

Really? So if she beat the hell out of her daughter every single day of her childhood, or allowed her to be raped, or raped her herself, that means the daughter still has an obligation to her?

She has a daughter. Whatever she is, she is a Mom. Five months no calls and no visitors is something really a big shame. It really doesnt matter how she treated or what she had done to her daughter but at least calling her once in a month has no substitute.

Perhaps she was a horrid witch. That's why nobody in her family wanted to visit her.

If you dont have a Parent, do something good on their behalf.