I just got offered a pr job in qatar for 11,000 a month, thats including rent and all that. Im a young canadian university graduate. is that a good offer??
LOL :D No problem Ramon, hope you do find a break into sports PR, I think you might have an easier time looking into Vancouver though, with the coming Olympics. Try David Atkins Enterprises, they will be doing the opening and closing ceremonies, also try a company called Bristol in Halifax, St. John's and Moncton, they do lots of sports related PR. THere are also sports related assoications in all the provinces. Also try Dubai, theres a higher level of sophistication there.
Qatarcat, Sammie and MochaFrap, lets stop talking about dating and men cause I think people are getting the wrong opinion of me! Really I'm not desperate.
thank you very much on the financial breakdown on expenditures mochafrap, it was extremely helpful.
I do not think this offer is useful to me, I think i was treated rather unprofessionally and wouldn't want to work with people who wanted to ride me like a poney when they hadn't even hired me yet.
hehe..."not cool" should be my reply to them.
Anyways i apreciate the interest sammie, I am 5'8" sadly to say, and already have a gf. I'm 23, and I don't have the french canadian accent in my english or my french, I'm perfectly fluent in both actually, with a hint of parisian in the french to say the truth (ouh lala). And my arabic isn't half bad either... That being said, I hope you find the perfect guy Dohagirl, I for one, have found you to be extremely witty and helpful.
thank you all for contributing to my decision making. you were all a fun bunch, sammie, dweller, mochafrap, qatarcat, and especially dohagirl. I really liked this site btw, whoever hosted it.
No MSN. I agree with Sammie, it could be worth coming for the experience, as long as money isn't his main priority. 8000 a month? I spend 1600 QR on my car, 1500 QR on food, maybe another 1000QR on nights out. He could still save a little.
But if he only wants to stay for a year then buying bulky stuff is not worth it coz it might be cheaper here but by the time you pay for being over weight it is not worth it! I did not think food was that expensive and i eat out everyday and hire a car at weekends and drink all weekend and i am only on 8000qr but i am doing this for experience and it will be worth it in the long run!
I am totally unable to save anything at all. We spend whatever we make, no matter how much we make. We blow the money on travel, phone bills (I call around the world during peak hours, silly cat), hotel dinners and electronics/DVDs :D :D
We have to stop this conversation now as Ayyeh is not happy with our ability so keep swapping the conversation to this or men or anything but the forum title!
yeah DG except if you had to pay rent there wouldn't be much to spare
it's like what? 4000 minimum for rent, 1000 for transportation, 1500 for groceries, around 400 telephone bills, 200 for cable, and another 400 for water & electricity? that adds up to about..hmmm..7500 QR? and that's just basic necessities. well maybe not cable though..
Seriously Ramon, from my perspective, if you want to break into sports PR take the job. You can live comfortably off that salary and it will give you experience. Your what? 24, you don't need to save money yet anyway. However, they are screwing you over on the apartment deal and if they are willing to do that you have to question what kind of employers they would be. PR is an unheard of industry in Doha and the sophistication in the industry is at zero (almost as low as their knowledge of advertising), so you may end up getting no real PR experience at all.
I am on less than that but do get my accommodation free and i have saved some already and will keep doing so i hope, i have not run out of money yet and will not do before i get paid again! So really if he has accommodation in with it then it might be worth it!
well i am mulling over a couple other offers, but this one enticed me due to the fact that it was a sports related offer.
thank you for your speedy input Dweller, I'm still going to call this potential employer to ask why they went all cold turkey on me when i thought we were having a healthy round of negotiations. i asked for 12,500 qr a month, thinking they'd at least meet me halfway. and they said thanks for your time bye bye....im shocked at that actually...
okay, these potential employers told me this contract is non negotiable. I know its an entry level job, but....is this offer really worth me moving all the way from montreal to come here for like a year?
seriously...will i even be able to save money on a 11,000 a month salary where 4,000 goes toward my rent? im not the big baller type, but....is this reasonable.
LOL :D Get him to make it on the computer and he can send it to you and you can print it off and tape it to the box. That's what I did for my parents when I was in Korea.
Don't worry. YeungDeungPo-Gu is in Seoul, so the post men are probably a little more capable than, say, your average Daejeon or Ulsan postal worker. It will get there, but next time get your supplier to send you an address with a postal code and a Hangul translation.
The wonderful thing about Korean names is that they have an infinite amount of spellings since Koreans don't use our Alphabet. Do you have the address written in Korean? If you do, than it will find it's way to your supplier. :)
Yes I do know QatarCat. It's actually spelt Yeungdeungpo-gu, and unfortunately when you pronounce it the proper Korean way it isn't funny, which is why I never noticed, but don't worry I like yours way better :).
And you're right MochaFrap I do work crazy long hours, luckily I love my job and the Gulf is a great place to be in PR right now since the most of the businesses here have no idea what real PR is (they think its handing out stuff with their logo on it) and are in desperate need of it (gotta love oil and gas giants :P ) and the media is state run so everything we send out is printed word for word.
it can depend on the company u work for too, is there a company car for this also?? whichb company / group is this JOB for; Qatari company / MNC /GOVT???....
Gee thanks mochafrap, donkey work is it? And I though being called a glorified receptionist was bad. :(
The salary offer is fine Ramon, you'll find it more than enough to live off of. The only problem is with the apartment. Unfortunately the cost of renting in Doha right now is ridiculous and 11,000 should leave you with 1,000 left over each month. Unless they come up with a better offer for accomodation than 4,000 a month shared, don't take the position.
11,000 is too low if it will include rent n all other things, as ur salary will be wasted on monthly expenditure. So do not expect much saving. However, if the rent is taken care of then u r OK :)
pretty much, yeah. they could have been a little more generous (with all the donkey work people tend to do in PR) but that's not bad at all for a fresh graduate. good luck!
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good start, for a young one like you.
forget about saving anyway, this is just your stepping stone.
A lot of companies will do a standard inititial 12 month contract when hiring from overseas...at least that's my experience.
I reckon it must be DAGOC related, but the 12 months has me confused.
no fair! you get a girls night out while i get stuck working in Dubai this weekend :(
grrr..i hope they only serve you warm beer! lol
and yes DG i got yahoo..but hardly use it since most of the people i know are on MSN.
Ok are you driving down?
See you there at 8:30?
A strange meeting place but the KFC on Salwa Road, Garveys is just passed the next roundabout!
Sounds good...where is central and close to Garvey's, you tell me and I will meet you there. :)
Say a place and i will meet you there or i can get a car to pick you up if you want! Time wise around eight or nine?
I'm not sure where Garvey's is, lets meet somewhere before. Anytime is good.
What time do you want to meet and do you want to meet at Garveys are somewhere else?
I'm desperate for a drink too :^)
Off home, DG, Sammie, catch you tomorrow for lunch.
LOL
Of course I do Sammie. I am desperate for a drink ;P
DG: Your not desperate at all did not mean to come across as that was just joking around!
Still fancy coming out thursday night?
Just had to ask as we were on the conversation on another forum!
LOL :D No problem Ramon, hope you do find a break into sports PR, I think you might have an easier time looking into Vancouver though, with the coming Olympics. Try David Atkins Enterprises, they will be doing the opening and closing ceremonies, also try a company called Bristol in Halifax, St. John's and Moncton, they do lots of sports related PR. THere are also sports related assoications in all the provinces. Also try Dubai, theres a higher level of sophistication there.
Qatarcat, Sammie and MochaFrap, lets stop talking about dating and men cause I think people are getting the wrong opinion of me! Really I'm not desperate.
thank you very much on the financial breakdown on expenditures mochafrap, it was extremely helpful.
I do not think this offer is useful to me, I think i was treated rather unprofessionally and wouldn't want to work with people who wanted to ride me like a poney when they hadn't even hired me yet.
hehe..."not cool" should be my reply to them.
Anyways i apreciate the interest sammie, I am 5'8" sadly to say, and already have a gf. I'm 23, and I don't have the french canadian accent in my english or my french, I'm perfectly fluent in both actually, with a hint of parisian in the french to say the truth (ouh lala). And my arabic isn't half bad either... That being said, I hope you find the perfect guy Dohagirl, I for one, have found you to be extremely witty and helpful.
thank you all for contributing to my decision making. you were all a fun bunch, sammie, dweller, mochafrap, qatarcat, and especially dohagirl. I really liked this site btw, whoever hosted it.
No MSN. I agree with Sammie, it could be worth coming for the experience, as long as money isn't his main priority. 8000 a month? I spend 1600 QR on my car, 1500 QR on food, maybe another 1000QR on nights out. He could still save a little.
Fish, DG, got Yahoo?
But if he only wants to stay for a year then buying bulky stuff is not worth it coz it might be cheaper here but by the time you pay for being over weight it is not worth it! I did not think food was that expensive and i eat out everyday and hire a car at weekends and drink all weekend and i am only on 8000qr but i am doing this for experience and it will be worth it in the long run!
Ya I know Mocha. I'm trying to give Ramon advise, not date him. From now on Girls when we are on we should just go in the chatbox.
I am totally unable to save anything at all. We spend whatever we make, no matter how much we make. We blow the money on travel, phone bills (I call around the world during peak hours, silly cat), hotel dinners and electronics/DVDs :D :D
We have to stop this conversation now as Ayyeh is not happy with our ability so keep swapping the conversation to this or men or anything but the forum title!
I can and will be picky. I don't want just any guy, I'm not that desperate. :P
Well it was worth a try!!!! God you can't be this picky you know he might be just gorgeous but you just kicked him to the curb!!!!
I know that Mocha, I was saying that living poorly might be worth the industry experience.
Sammie :P He's from Montreal I don't like French Canadians. ;)
Ramon are you tall and skinny?
yeah DG except if you had to pay rent there wouldn't be much to spare
it's like what? 4000 minimum for rent, 1000 for transportation, 1500 for groceries, around 400 telephone bills, 200 for cable, and another 400 for water & electricity? that adds up to about..hmmm..7500 QR? and that's just basic necessities. well maybe not cable though..
Seriously Ramon, from my perspective, if you want to break into sports PR take the job. You can live comfortably off that salary and it will give you experience. Your what? 24, you don't need to save money yet anyway. However, they are screwing you over on the apartment deal and if they are willing to do that you have to question what kind of employers they would be. PR is an unheard of industry in Doha and the sophistication in the industry is at zero (almost as low as their knowledge of advertising), so you may end up getting no real PR experience at all.
I am on less than that but do get my accommodation free and i have saved some already and will keep doing so i hope, i have not run out of money yet and will not do before i get paid again! So really if he has accommodation in with it then it might be worth it!
That's not true fish, I'm making the same he is (without paying rent though) and I would be saving plenty if I didn't keep travelling.
no i don't think you'd really save up much on that salary. but then again no entry level position offers enough cash to save up anyway.
I could think of a lot of reasons they went cold turkey on you, but none of them flattering to your potential employer. Look elsewhere.
:)
which company?
well i am mulling over a couple other offers, but this one enticed me due to the fact that it was a sports related offer.
thank you for your speedy input Dweller, I'm still going to call this potential employer to ask why they went all cold turkey on me when i thought we were having a healthy round of negotiations. i asked for 12,500 qr a month, thinking they'd at least meet me halfway. and they said thanks for your time bye bye....im shocked at that actually...
In a nutshell and in my opinion.......NO!
Rent will consume a huge chunk of your pay. For a one year contract, frankly it sucks.
Think long and hard about leaving what may be a good career for a one year fling in Qatar. True, other opportunities may open up.......but only MAY.
okay, these potential employers told me this contract is non negotiable. I know its an entry level job, but....is this offer really worth me moving all the way from montreal to come here for like a year?
seriously...will i even be able to save money on a 11,000 a month salary where 4,000 goes toward my rent? im not the big baller type, but....is this reasonable.
LOL :D Get him to make it on the computer and he can send it to you and you can print it off and tape it to the box. That's what I did for my parents when I was in Korea.
As if I could ever WRITE it in Korean. Yeah right. But thanks for your support :D
Don't worry. YeungDeungPo-Gu is in Seoul, so the post men are probably a little more capable than, say, your average Daejeon or Ulsan postal worker. It will get there, but next time get your supplier to send you an address with a postal code and a Hangul translation.
it will only be a number though!
Thanks DG. Here I was hoping you'd sweeten the pill by saying it will get there anyways, and what do i get?? Korean postmen don't read English!!!
It was by TNT by the way. There is a phone number. I just remembered. It SHOULD get there.
Not your fault. If your supplier didn't give you a postal code than that's his fault. Everyone knows Korean postmen can't read English.
There is no code!!!!
OK I'll go die now. If my parcel doesn't get there this week, I'm as good as dead.
yeah as long as you have postal/zipcode thingy it will get there
If he didn't give it to you in Korean than you don't have a choice. There should have been a postal coade though.
i send stuff over there all the time and it always gets there i would not worry!
Ouch no I wrote Youngdungpoo-ku! Jst as it was given to me!
Will the stuff reach the addressee?? I'm worried now!
The wonderful thing about Korean names is that they have an infinite amount of spellings since Koreans don't use our Alphabet. Do you have the address written in Korean? If you do, than it will find it's way to your supplier. :)
OK DG who do I trust with Korean names spelling, you or my Korean supplier?
Or maybe the supplier was having fun :p
Yes I do know QatarCat. It's actually spelt Yeungdeungpo-gu, and unfortunately when you pronounce it the proper Korean way it isn't funny, which is why I never noticed, but don't worry I like yours way better :).
And you're right MochaFrap I do work crazy long hours, luckily I love my job and the Gulf is a great place to be in PR right now since the most of the businesses here have no idea what real PR is (they think its handing out stuff with their logo on it) and are in desperate need of it (gotta love oil and gas giants :P ) and the media is state run so everything we send out is printed word for word.
:D
it can depend on the company u work for too, is there a company car for this also?? whichb company / group is this JOB for; Qatari company / MNC /GOVT???....
So its YOU who got my old job and my old office?????????? Hahaha
I moved next door to DG recently, lost the seaview and found a million new responsibilities. Now I refill the fountain pens, too.
That place, it's somewhere in Korea. I have no idea where, but Dohagirl knows.
oooooh...where's that? that sounds exciting!!
don't mind me. i'm just your regular non-PR ditz..:p
(actually don't tell anyone but i sharpen pencils for a living..but hey at least i have an ocean-view office :p)
Silly fish, it's a LOCATION :p
YoungDung-what now? please don't tell me that is actual nick someone uses around here..lol
Yes and you forgot to mention how smart PR people are. I mean, who else here knows where YoungDungPoo is?? Only DG :D
oops! sorry, dohagirl. that actually didn't come out as i quite intended to.
i actually meant that PR reps should be well-compensated for the amount of work and ridiculosly long working hours they tend to have.
Ah, true. I stopped showering right after the honeymoon. That's about the same time I started biting :p
Yes but you're married so you don't need to shower anymore. And your husband probably likes the biting. ;)
Ohh you're way better than me then. I am cute but I bite and I never shower :P
Theres me. :D
I'm cute...sort of
And I don't bite...often
And I sometimes I even take a shower. ;)
Yeah scores of single girls roaming the streets.
Unless of course you really really want to come here. It is such an exciting place, with all the parties and single girls and such. ;)
Gee thanks mochafrap, donkey work is it? And I though being called a glorified receptionist was bad. :(
The salary offer is fine Ramon, you'll find it more than enough to live off of. The only problem is with the apartment. Unfortunately the cost of renting in Doha right now is ridiculous and 11,000 should leave you with 1,000 left over each month. Unless they come up with a better offer for accomodation than 4,000 a month shared, don't take the position.
11,000 is too low if it will include rent n all other things, as ur salary will be wasted on monthly expenditure. So do not expect much saving. However, if the rent is taken care of then u r OK :)
Oooh.. Behave..
pretty much, yeah. they could have been a little more generous (with all the donkey work people tend to do in PR) but that's not bad at all for a fresh graduate. good luck!