Qatari Wedding Secrets?

Hey Hugh I work in public relations and risk management in syd. I know my stereotypes. I have been in qa for a good long time.

i know fili's. filipino gf's never get married. Cite one instance. just one...very rare.. They are easily

'off the shelf' playboy lap bunnies. mind you, i work closely with clients and coworkers. Most qataries do not have

gfs or aka 'bunnies'. Even if they have one, they are well under wraps (behind scenes).never openly. fair amount of bitching

shows up in public (real alarming). then again, not too bad. then again there are shady parts of society. Dubai for instance has

certain blocks where prositution is an open thing. I dont hate filipinos. thry are nice and well nature.Only the shady ones who take advantage of flings and

snogging to get ahead and rack up on the bucks.

baedaebok: the actual marriage ceremony where they agree to get married and sign the papers is usually a private issue between the two families. It is done months (or sometimes years!) before the ceremonies (usually that night, the marriage is actually consumed, and the couple starts to live together).

Oh....Aisha....from what you're saying, a Qatari woman's wedding is quite different from a European wedding reception. But it is still miles ahead of the men's wedding reception in terms of excitement and entertainment.

It real ly depends on the family as to what kind of wedding it is. I have been to very lavish weddings and some rather simple. But they all have the same common ground. The only difference is the decoration, the food buffet/or table served, the music - a well know entertainer or the more old fashioned woman's drum band or a tape/cd. Basically you all sit and wait for the bride to come. When she arrives she sits on a throne and her friends and family go to her & get their picture taken. The groom usually arrives late and is accompanied by his father, her father and some brothers. However they leave quite quickly. Only the groom stays & he sits next to his bride. More pictures. When the men arrive all women put on their sheilas. I have never stayed past 1am. The weddings are nothing like a European wedding. The music is usually loud and as I am more of a person who prefers to have a conversation....To be honest, I have found all of them quite boring.

And to anwer the question that started this thread. There is nothing dirty going on. I do not know where you got your info, but please tell the people who told you this that they are completely wrong and that they should stop talking about something they have no idea at all.

Aisha-Taweela

I've heard from dw that the Qatari women's wedding reception is closer to the Western wedding reception: dancing, music, Western clothes, fun atmosphere, etc.

The Qatari men's wedding reception is just sitting around talking, watching (and participating) in sword dance, and then eating.

The actual Qatar wedding doesn't exist. I haven't heard of any wedding ceremony.

i like Qatari Weddings .. if some one invites me...

othere wise when i was freee... then i was went with my friends in Qatari Weddings....if i not get invitations...

hi friends i m nasir ishaq... i m Pakistani... not a qatari ... but i m agree with Ahmed44 bcoz when i was small i m also like ahmed.. i know one of Qatari Family.. as they guided me... And they help me in all life.. i known them from 21 years... when i was 2 years... Once they invited me on Womens wedding.. that time i was 7 years i think.. but i saw rules and their wedding.. i like mostly From All.. countries... there is no any Shit or...dirty....

according to Islam Alcohol is not Alloweded......

2 or 3 time i went in Qatari Mens Wedding... Also...

so i don't think there is any Shit or Dirty.... I mostly enjoyed thier wedding...

in weddings there is no Alcohol thats y u r saying .. shit and dirty...

I am to a canadian and DG Is correct it means sorta lame.I attened a lot of Weddings of Qataris and they dont have alcohol and stuff.And they are not lame only one was

Hi! Read all this with great interest and wonder if anyone here could clarify for me what happens when the groom arrives.

He comes with other men, right?

The women cover beforehand of course.

But when he and the bride leave, do the other men stay behind? Or did his companions even enter the celebration?

I read here that after the bride and groom leave, the party really begins in earnest. Does that mean, if the other men in the entourage stay, that the women stay covered and dance??

Also, what's with all the picture taking? I thought that was haram.

THANKS.

lilukii

Do you know that most Filipinas are so innocent to the point that they are naive? I know Qatari men who are dating Filipinas with the promise of marriage...like that will ever happen. They come from a very poor country and finding a husband while working abroad is their only opportunity to provide a better life for their family, themselves, and to their future children. One of the best kept secrets is that Filipinas make very good loving wives, which often causes them to be taken advantage of.

I only knew a few Filipinas that were shady.

As for American women: I was sexual with many of them while I was in Qatar. It is proven by me, the self proclaimed expert, that you will not find the same to be true with Filipinas. Although I did sleep with a couple of them too. Most of the Qatar airline girls have been educated and are still Virgins. In their country a non-virgin has difficulty finding a man who will love them, because they aren't virgins. A woman with a child has no other option but to seek a man from another country to find a husband. It's actually very sad. They are mostly victimized because of their poverty.

Like I said though some are shady, but not to the extent that most here make them out to be.

Chill out guys. This a discussion forum and I can see some people are out to derograte other country / culture and personal beliefs and choices.

Phillipinos or any other girl or a boy of today, who doesn't have a bf-gf respectively. Why only them, show me one single boy or even a SINGLE Qatari female/girl who does not have a bf ????? I bet no one can.

YOU ARE PATHETIC you try your flex on me...ha ha !

xyned, you make the world a sad place to live in.

you try your flex on me...ha ha !

Filipina's are the same nasties. Its not just the boyfriend thing. Its not like i mind a serious BF-GF thing. I mean when this is done to pinch gold off those leisure-hungry-loaded -bosses, you get to see the picture. Behind the scene making of filthy filipina harlots. Since when did a regular sales girl drive a camry,accord or any other new car. Harlots, prositutes and ......

>>>>>watch it.. I am not pointing fingers at those decent minority filipinas who toe the line of decency or are bullied into doing so

This is what you think!!!

Muslims' marriages are to be announced. I think people should know that you are married.

First of all I would like to ask you if you were sure that the cermony you were talking about was for Qatareis or not?

Second I want to clarify that at present-days if you see someone wearing Qatari national dress(men or women)dose not meen that they are Qataries,every body is copying us in every thing in doha.

Theird and last I don't want you or anyone to forget that there is something called culture diffirance & multi-culture wariness.We have traveled to many places where we have seen many strange things but we respected others culture & religion as well.

Super7 said"what men parties are for, to be honest" this is because in Islam one of the marriage rule

is "Proclamation" you have to invite your friend and neighbor to your widding so others will hear that you have got married.even a smale cermony will do.

I'm ready to answer any quistion regarding any thing about My country Qatar.

I hope everyone enjoy plesent stay in Qatar and enjoies every second passes here in one of the safest countrie in the word.

Regards

:)

Having your own car means you need to pay insurance for it. You also need to take it to techniqal inspection. It also might cause you pay traffic violation fees. Drivers might insult you and make you unhappy.

Using Mowasalat-Karwa public buses might be good during the nights of April, May, June, July, September & October.

They are also good during the days in November, December, January, February, March.

Mowasalat-Karwa might install shady areas for every bus stop so that they be good to use during the hot summer months.

If you are a qatari help me out

I am looking for a good car if you know some one

let me know of some one close to you , so that I can purchase

My budget is not too big I am a small person

will wait for your reply

@super, I'm sorry that if 'no drinking' in a wedding means it's not good.

I love Qatari weddings. I love the atmosphere, and the culure.

It is tragic that Phillipinas have that reputation of getting boyfriends once they come to Qatar. This is what caused the downfall of our own Phillipina housemaid. We, foolishly, gave her 24 hours off and let her stay out overnight (Fri nite). She was introduced to men and one thing led to another.

When DG said that the wedding are dull and bored due to all women does busy talking about each other jewels or apparel...i kind a remember the scenario somewhere in my hometown where happen the same things... really funny...but of course they are oldies, not kind a teenagers...i believe DG is a teenager right??

I wasnt targeting everyone. Just the non banker type sales girls and some counter hands or perhaps checkout operators who seem to feel the need for extra cash via flesh trade. I have had reports of flesh trade. A former neighbour of mine back in qatar, was a .....client (putting it lightly) of a filipina escort. Hold it...did I say filipina. It should have been filipinas or whatever. My collegues working at office fronts have seen many of the these filipina escorts. Ah and there are those Qrs on their Credit card bills to prove spending of lavish amounts behind these escorts. It never used to happen say back in late 80's. The locals and some expatriates have fallen prey to these.

On the other hand many Filipinos or more rightly 'Most' Filipinos(as) are living a respectable life and contributing whole heartedly to the economy of the country. They have fit into the society like genuine cogs of precision machinery.

My whole hearted apologies to those offended by my previous posts. However i stand strong with my statements that these Flesh mongers are the filth of the society. I repeat, only the flesh mongering Geishas ( The japanes word for prestige brothels. A fair bit of class associated with those prestige social workers which not the situation in most of the case over here)

Cheers

xyned

I shouldn't have reacted to the "trolls" innuendos...but...

Xyned, I do dare you to start support your allegations...start the topic and let's see where it goes...

I know you're familiar with how the bank offer salary loans to those whose salary reaches the approvable bracket. The amount you mentioned in your post covers only their basic salaries. If you add the housing and transportation allowances, these ladies have a gross income of QAR 4,000 - 4,500. Don't forget, they are also entitled to bonuses, cash incentives and the like.

You categorized in your post that if a Filipina is living comfortably here in Qatar, owns a nice car, therefore she must be in the Flesh trade.

"The society is becoming more and more corrupt and these ladies are the heart and souls to the putrid insanity of the flesh mongering marketplace."

Which society are you referring to?

Better yet, why don't you make this claim of yours into a new forum topic. So we could dissect it one by one...

If you won't...I will...

I was just trying to shed light on the fact that the filipinos are no better than their other asian counter parts who are partially disadvantaged with somewhat less fanciable english skills at labour or entry level clerk jobs. That for one, yet another point is they lead a life of poor hygenie back home. That allright and probably shouldnt pick on them on such feather weight matters.The most stricking fact is that the filipino ladies working in places like Blue saloon and other specialty stores lead an overtly comfy plush life. Think of this, they are normally entitled to anywhere between 1500 to 2500 per month. Where do they get those new nissan tidas, maximas, VWS and corollas from. They are really selling their flesh. They are chosen over other equally or better candidates due to their flesh. What i mean is that they voluntarily or semi-voluntarily sell themeselves to people who are willing to pay the price for their companionship ( i am trying my best to avoid words such as b*rothels and p*rositutes). This upsets me a not. They are nothing but beauty selling flesh mongers. The society is becoming more and more corrupt and these ladies are the heart and souls to the putrid insanity of the flesh mongering marketplace.

cheers

xyned

I was not making fun of the wedding or the way people behave. I thoroughly enjoyed myself as it was my first time. Also, as I have mentioned earlier that I love meeting different people and experiencing different cultures. I was also touched by the hospitality of total strangers at the wedding.

By the way I am not a Philipino. Why does nationality make a difference?

Guys lets end this hear.

Thanks

Ahmd/Qatarite...you may delete this, please.

Thanks.

"RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT"

I fully understand what you mean, Xyned. I've been here in Doha for 2 yrs and I had my share of embarrassment because of what some of my "kababayans" are doing. I know that they are doing these things not for personal gains but being stereotyped as one can be disheartening to us who don't do those stuff.

But as I said, you couldn't blame me bcoz whoever reads your post would think you categorized us as such. But thank you for clarifying your point...all's taken well

"RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT"

well, i went one bit too far perhaps. However, when I commented uncultured I didn't mean uneducated or uncivil in the manner of speaking. However upon mingling with some philipino's up close in Sydney, they perfectly fit the the stereotypical imagery of a modern day harlot. See, in qatar there are a few filipino prostitues who really dirties filipino image. Money hungry mongrels who would do anything to earn some big bucks.

Its truly a shame.

>>>>>>>>I REPEAT. THIS DOESN'T GO FOR THE ENTIRE FILIPINO COMMUNITY. BUT ONLY FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED TYPE OF PEOPLE

well, i went one bit too far perhaps. However, when I commented uncultured I didn't mean uneducated or uncivil in the manner of speaking. However upon mingling with some philipino's up close in Sydney, they perfectly fit the the stereotypical imagery of a modern day harlot. See, in qatar there are a few filipino prostitues who really dirties filipino image. Money hungry mongrels who would do anything to earn some big bucks.

Its truly a shame.

>>>>>>>>I REPEAT. THIS DOESN'T GO FOR THE ENTIRE FILIPINO COMMUNITY. BUT ONLY FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED TYPE OF PEOPLE

I'm not running to the defense of Angelo bcoz he's a Filipino just like me. He never said a nasty remarks regarding the subject matter. You just pop out and started lambasting who we are. Filipinos are known for their hospitality and courtesy because it's integrated in our family to be respectful to everyone, regardless of who the other person is.

Have you visited our country as you spoke of it as if you have visited all corners of it. Where did you get the information that that our traditional meal is from rotten eggs? That only means that you're just making a comment just for the heck of it. What do you have against Filipinos, bcoz it seemed that you have some problems with us.

And who are you calling INDECENT, UNCULTURED people? I think this best descibes YOU!!!

Next time, before you jump on anyone's throat because of the comments they post...READ CAREFULLY...and if you have nothing constructive to say...THEN DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.

SOMETIMES, IT'S BETTER TO KEEP QUIET THEN BE THOUGHT A FOOL...THAN OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND PROVE IT...

RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT

U dont have any other business i guess..

When I arrived here last year. I was really surprized when I saw houses with lots of decoration. I said to myself, This is more like back to out country but it is only done on Christmas. Then I was told that its probably a wedding of very important persons in Qatar.

I like to attend wedding, I love specially the eating part.hehehe

invite me please...

Light effects (i.e. turning lights off, shifting lights) might scare children.

Also, wires of the D.J. & the music bands might be dangerous for children.

The noise might harm children, too.

Kids would love to jump & play in the wedding halls. That might turn the carefully planned event turn out to be a mess.

bbksiu...is this the case with all arabic weddings. i didnt know of such high security.not getting teh cameras is understandable..but why not kids.

happy heart

drive safe because someone is waiting for you at home

No passports are needed. But you need to be a female to be with females, a male to be with males.

WOW!!! do they check your passport too to make sure your name matches the one written on the invitation card and you are really you?

Women are not supposed to bring their maids, children, mobiles with camera, cameras, & video recording cameras. There are invitation cards for women that needs to be submitted to the security guards. Then, you pass throug the metal, mobile, & camera detection unit.

Your posts make no sense and are badly written. What you do say is rude and insulting. Either you are not capable of understanding what Angelo has said or you just have a big chip on your shoulder and are looking for a fight.

Eating with fingers & licking them after that is very healthy as I know.

Wedding parties, especially the women's one, here are extremelly creative. The female section might have D.J., men musicans in a seperated area, or women musicans. Drums called dufs are used beside pianos. It cost a lot of money to make a wedding party with women musicians because of "Noqout". Noqout is the act of saying & singing of your name by musicians.

Yeah xyned what's wrong with you? I didn't absolutely think Angelo's comments were meant as an insult in fact I got quite a nice positive picture of traditional weddings from his post.

I agree you own him an apology!

xyned: all Angelo said was "If it is a typical arabic wedding, you will be using your fingers to eat." He didn't make any value judgment, he didn't say it was bad. And overall, he said he enjoyed the wedding and the traditions.

So why are you lashing out at him with some genuinely hostile, crude cultural stereotypes?

I think you owe him an apology.

lucky you.i believe you are a filipino. Dont you run saying nasty things about arabic culture. Eating by fingers is quite practical seeing that using a set of cutleries would take ages to fill half the stomach of a decent invitee. What do you eat at ur place?. i hear the people openly urinate in cities. Defectation is done openly to an extent outside big cities. A disgusting traditional meal made from rotten eggs (prepared by exposing the egg to above high heat and then freezing alternatingly till it rots). Inspite of history of colonization and progress, things remain the same. Indecent uncultured people.

Qatar's administration sector serving the expatriates are really low on proffesionalism. A high school pass and some sort of certification. Cant speak proper english. They have got to improve the society from root level. Just like bahrain or jordan. There are issues of qatari women abandoning their islamic culture and donning european tastes to clothing and even lifestyle. Being a modernist by moving from traditional beliefs. Its okay to an extend. However its a shame to see increasing amount of open air kissing, fondling etc which are quite disturbing. There have been reports of increasing pre-martial relations. A group of elite underground ladies similar to chinese or japanese geisha's ( women offering services for a premium price tag).

College of north atlanic security has recently captured scenes of 'making-out' in a SUV. Shameless. Shameless. Shameless

Canragaz, I was in the same situation as you, last night. This was my first arabic wedding that I can remember, in all these years of living in Qatar.

If you are used to wearing a suit, do it, as long as you are comfortable. Sit on the floor or sofa which ever you prefer. You will find your office mates, stick with them, they will be able to guide you in the NoNos.

You do not embrace the Groom, you give three pecks on the same cheek(his right), and all the male members of the grooms family, (ie: brother, father, grandfather.) The greeting is Mabrook. and then you can make a comment to the groom in english, if you like.

No gifts

Food is serviced in big trays with a goat in the centre. If food (piece of meat) is throw at you, accept it with a smile, :) If it is a typical arabic wedding, you will be using your fingers to eat.

Enjoy yourself, I did, just follow what your arab colleagues do.

Good to see the sword dance with the fancy costumes.

At the end there is a photo session.

no it is not dirty

i) As a westerner, should I wear a suit or get a fancy local wedding outfit?

suit will be fine

(ii) If I do wear a suit, are there particular colors I should avoid in either suit or tie?

no,but black will be formal

(iii) What sort of greeting is expected?

u have to smile and say "maabrook alaf alaf babrook"

(iv) Is there any role expected of guests beyond eating?

1-dont eat a lot 2-dont look at any one 3- do not ask for any thing

(v) Do I bring a gift? Of what?

no

(vi) How long does is the party?

6pm to 11 pm,If he is your friend u have to stay for long time,if he is not u should not stay for long time

aldror asnyah 3la als2lah alngdya

Dude, WOW...great account... u can be a writer :)

Just a general observation, Women every where talk about women;s dresses and choice of accecesories at all times lol especially so in weddings...

True in the US as it is in Egypt ( and appartentlly qatar too)

Women just love 2 talk, and a fav topic is fashion ( especially the one other women are wearing hehe)...

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"missiles, warships and nuclear weapons cannot establish security. Instead they destroy what peace and security build." Anwar Sadat

as I am curious also....

lol... not cause I am attending a male wedding party... (I should be so lucky), but for the culture side of it....

I have been invited to my first Qatari wedding (men's) in a couple of weeks and after the initial excitement I realized that I do not have a clue what any of the protocol is. Here are some of my questions:

(i) As a westerner, should I wear a suit or get a fancy local wedding outfit?

(ii) If I do wear a suit, are there particular colors I should avoid in either suit or tie?

(iii) What sort of greeting is expected?

(iv) Is there any role expected of guests beyond eating?

(v) Do I bring a gift? Of what?

(vi) How long does is the party?

If you can answer any of my questions, I would be very thankful.

I don't care about there being no women or alcohol -- this is going to be one of the best cultural experiences I can imagine.

When i was a kid (4-8years) i would go to the womens weddings because its ok for little kids even if they are boys, back then ofcourse fashion was different and even the wedding format was very different they had traditional bands consisting of 20+ drummers and dancing in the middle, dresses were huge like middle-ages european royalty and big hair and drag-like makeup. I loved going cause at one point when the groom came or when the grooms sisters and family were dancing they would throw money and i'd do my snake impression and collect every riyal i could get cause that was candy money!!

The mens weddings also consisted of a traditional live band, sword dancing and a dinner, then the groom would go to where the womens party was and sit next to the bride and take pictures and cut the wedding cake and all that, shortly after the groom comes in the party is pretty much over though.

Right now many years after the mens wedding is pretty much the same format except modern touches have been added, like two big screens one that shows the groom shaking hands with all the passers and one showing the guests sitting and chatting, also many weddings are in hotels with buffet dinners instead of the traditional one type of food on the floor setting. Back when i was a kid the wedding were in houses or very close so the groom would walk with a big posse to the womens wedding for the big entrance, but today the distance is longer so its a car-tailgate type thing around doha with the hazard lights on and honking non stop until they get to the womens party.

The womens party also has changed, i see my mother and sisters going to them and the hair is no longer as big and the dresses are alot simpler, there is more emphasis on jewlery instead, the makup and dress have been toned down alot. They do have DJ's alot more than live bands now, alot of detail goes into the tables and hwo they are set and even the invitations to the wedding are a big deal now, the chair or rather 'throne' the bride sits on, the two big screens showing the party, special effects in entrances, and ofcourse alot of critisizing what others are wearing. My mother and sisters are the type who dont like to talk bad about others on any normal day, but after a wedding they have a conference call in our house and you can see a stormy cloud ontop of our house from how much they critisize everyone, what they were wearing, their hair and makup and how they danced and the tables and the food and the invitations. If i was one of the girls they critisize and i heard it i would get a stroke on the spot!!

These days i hardly ever go to weddings i'm a bit of a germaphobe so i dont like shaking hands plus cheek to cheek kissing with a few hundred people in one night! But the few times i did go i was always lucky enough to be in the newspaper the nextday with the groom, i've definetly gotten my 15 minutes of fame!!

If you are getting married, please please please can you invite me...I´ve never been in a wedding in Qatar and would love to attend to one..

Hmmmmmm...well it looks like I was fed a bunch of lies from those people. Oh well, glad to have found this place to correct me.

Cheers.

That one sounds kind of cool. My was a lot of talking about what the other women were wearing, which isn't so much fun. :)

i get it doha girl .. dont worry about it

im just not familiar with these expressions .. but i get it now ;)

well weddings are changing alot througout the years.. i see a huge diffrence than before.. i mean the ladies side.. alot of new stuff and entertainment..

the best wedding i attended was like 2 months ago..i bet u wud have enjoyed it..

they brought live singers.. and also some dancers performed belly dancing, western dancing , opera theatre dancing..it was kinda like a show.. the wedding hall was designed like the days of marie antoinet.. the performers changed costumes..big wigs and fans..the food was brought to the table..like 9 diffrent courses..

thats what i remember.. :)

Seriously QatarGirl, I didn't mean it that way. It's a Canadian expression that obviously doesn't translate well. I did have fun at an all girls birthday party though. But the womans part of the wedding was a little dull, after my experiences with weddings.

well i didnt know that was an expression..when i saw dogshit i was surprised !

anywayz ..

every person has diffrent taste in things ..

and i thnk e46m3 answered about the mens side

When I first came to the Middle East and saw those "Ladies Wedding" or "Gentlemen Wedding" posters on shut ballroom doors in the hotels I thought "Wow they are far more advanced than we are!!"

Little did I know.

No drinking and importantly no single women in romantic mood with 10 glasses of champagne in them.

Nah barely any point going

Qatari weddings are not fun. The women parties are there so that the prospective mothers in law could select future wives for their sons. I am at a loss what men parties are for, to be honest.

Well Super it was slightly more interesting than the Korean wedding I went to, at least it has a party afterwards. And I hate loud music and dancing unless I'm drunk. So a Qatari wedding wasn't my idea of fun, so sue me, I've said lots of nice things about Qatar and Qataris but there weddings are not fun by my standard of fun weddings.

Dig away DG.

The internet is international territory.

I have been to several and I agree with DG. Obviously I was in the lads section

Qatar girl "dull as dogshit" is an expression, I didn't mean your weddings were dog shit, I meant they were boring.

The men's part of the wedding is pretty straight forward. Invitees congratulate the groom and his father, brothers... You sit next to him for the traditional coffee and tea, have a picture taken with him. Later on there's a buffet and an "'ardha" which is a traditional sword dance. Very nice, beautifully decorated garments.

After that groom goes to the women's party and joins the bride.

At least these are my first-hand observations.

There's no "down and dirty" part there.

Hello bobo..

i dont exactly know what u mean ??

i've been to so many weddings.. it was nothing like down and dirty..

sorry bobo :)

Doha girl??

are u calling our weddings dogshit???

the least u can do is show respect in the country ur in!!!!!!!

by the way.. u can't judge weddings here by attending only one!! im a qatari and i attended SOOOO many weddings and this is how it is here.. NO ALCOHOL.. NO MIXING..if u want alcohol and what ever u have in mind then find what pleases u somewhere else!!!

scantily dresses u say.. as i said u cant judge all weddings by just one..

it depends on the wedding and family.. oh and whats wrong with dancing 2 loud music?? dont u do that every now and then just in a diffrent place!!

I've only been to one, but if you mean dull as dogshit when you say down and dirty, than I guess thats right. The parties are separated into two groups, men and women, and there is no alcohol (at least at the womens parties) they dance to loud disco music and dress scantily for other women while critizing what every other woman is wearing. Not exactly the greatest party of all time.