Women rarely give warning...

Miss Mimi
By Miss Mimi

Before killing their mates :D

Watch it boys!

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10/03/women-rarely-gave-a-warning-befo...

Conventional wisdom suggests that women usually kill their spouses in self defence or as a final, desperate reaction to chronic battery, the burning-bed syndrome that is sometimes cited as a defence in murder trials. A new Canadian study, however, suggests that barely a quarter of husband-killers are victims of domestic abuse, less than half suffer from any identified psychological problem, and fewer still have had trouble with police.

The majority of the slayings – perpetrated by knife, gun and strangulation — appear generally unheralded, suggests the analysis of 20 years of Quebec homicide files.

“Women rarely gave a warning before killing their mates,” concluded the study, co-authored by Dr. Dominique Bourget, a forensic psychiatrist at the Royal Ottawa Mental Health Centre. “In the vast majority of cases of women who killed their mates, there were very few indicators that might have signalled the risk and helped predict the violent, lethal behaviour.”

Women who end their partners’ lives have been an under-examined group, the researchers note, given they represent a minority of the total partner homicides. Almost 80% of the 738 spousal killings in Canada between 2000 and 2009 were committed by men, who the study said are also responsible almost exclusively for bloody massacres where children, as well as the partner, are murdered in one act.

Working in conjunction with the Quebec coroners’ office, the Royal Ottawa researchers pored over the files of the 276 spousal homicides in the province between 1991 and 2010, 42 of which, or 15%, were carried out by the female partner. The information included the coroner’s report, police records and autopsy results and medical charts.

Although 35% of the male victims had a history of at least one act of past violence, the researchers say they found evidence that just 26% of the women had been physically abused by their partners. That differs markedly from the findings of a 1989 American study that indicated almost all women who committed spousal homicides did so in an environment of domestic violence — and a Canadian paper from the same period that attributed the motives for most such killings to self defence, notes the study, just published in the journal Behavioural Sciences and the Law.

To Don Dutton, a UBC psychology professor who has examined domestic violence for decades, the results of the new study are no surprise, despite what he called an erroneous understanding of “intimate-partner” assault that continues to prevail in society.

“We’ve got a stereoptye about domestic violence … that the oppressor or perpetrator is the male and when female violence happens, it’s a reaction against male violence,” he said. “The stereotype is so strong, that when you look at the actual data, you’re shocked.”

Prof. Dutton, author of the book Rethinking Domestic Violence, suggested that such assumptions evolved from the feminist view that family violence was a socio-political act of “patriarchal men suppressing women.” He argues instead that personality disorders in both male and female offenders better explain family violence than do social norms.

Prof. Dutton, not involved in the Quebec research, cited a number of studies in the United States that concluded the most common type of domestic violence was not abuse of women by men, but “bilateral” violence where both spouses hurt each other with similar severity.

The Quebec review also found that just over one in five of the women had documented psychiatric conditions such as major depression or schizophrenia, though a similar number suffered from acute intoxication at the time of the homicide, the research indicates.

Only three of the women were known to have had contact with the police or the justice system previously because of violent behaviour and there was evidence of just two having seen a psychologist or psychiatrist for depression or psychosis.

About 14% of the women tried suicide or succeeded in killing themselves, compared to 45% of the male murders.

About half the female spouses used a knife to do in their partner, 35% committed the deed with a gun, while two women strangled the man and one used a blunt instrument.

A larger percentage of the male killers than women strangled, bludgeoned or beat their spouses to death, as opposed to using a knife or gun.

By PrarieFire• 3 Oct 2012 15:49
PrarieFire

:o

By Segmund• 3 Oct 2012 15:42
Segmund

hehehe@ bald witch..

By PrarieFire• 3 Oct 2012 15:33
PrarieFire

Rizks y u gotta interrupt was entertaining watching segmund

By Rizks• 3 Oct 2012 15:25
Rizks

Ahem !

By Segmund• 3 Oct 2012 15:25
Segmund

It is funny but I always find you (and all my other friends) cool at all their moments. :)

By Segmund• 3 Oct 2012 15:21
Segmund

Yes you certainly are cool; whether you like it or not. :)

By PrarieFire• 3 Oct 2012 15:18
PrarieFire

no...you hurt mah feelingz...

:o omg she just proved males are more emotional

By PrarieFire• 3 Oct 2012 15:09
PrarieFire

meanie :

By Miss Mimi• 3 Oct 2012 14:57
Miss Mimi

Obviously they're really sneaky Brit.

By PrarieFire• 3 Oct 2012 14:57
PrarieFire

I always end up getting abused by women :_(

By britexpat• 3 Oct 2012 14:26
britexpat

yes, but as per the article......

20% may have psychological issues

20% alcohol

But what about the rest ??

By lost-in-qatar• 3 Oct 2012 14:20
lost-in-qatar

But I can't help myself considering what's happening in Quebec. They refused to speak French....

Ok I'm done.

By Miss Mimi• 3 Oct 2012 14:10
Miss Mimi

That's hard to say Brit. Because wouldn't most people planning to murder someone show signs of it?

By britexpat• 3 Oct 2012 14:00
britexpat

Getting back to the topic..

Can we then say that the such crimes commited by womn are planned and premeditated.

By Prism• 3 Oct 2012 13:55
Prism

hmmmm...so in case of brit it is physical and not emotional pain ...:)

By britexpat• 3 Oct 2012 13:50
britexpat

"About half the female spouses used a knife to do in their partner, 35% committed the deed with a gun, while two women strangled the man and one used a blunt instrument."

This is why I alsways made her wear oven mittens before going to bed :O(

By Miss Mimi• 3 Oct 2012 13:45
Miss Mimi

I couldn't help but think about Brit's shotputter when I read this article. That's why I posted it!

By nomerci• 3 Oct 2012 13:43
Rating: 3/5
nomerci

Tinks...I usually do..;)

By nomerci• 3 Oct 2012 13:21
nomerci

I think Brit's shotputter was way stronger than he is.

AND, I doubt she is pining as much as he is....emotionally weaker...hmmm....;)

By lost-in-qatar• 3 Oct 2012 13:02
lost-in-qatar

Ferme ta geule estie d'efronter. As tu compris tabarnac.....Quebec not France,

By britexpat• 3 Oct 2012 12:58
britexpat

Mon Dieu, Sacre Bleu and Brie de Meaux. Please don't hurt me. i bruise easily :O(

By Prism• 3 Oct 2012 12:57
Prism

MM...yes...shouldn't they be???...:)

By lost-in-qatar• 3 Oct 2012 12:54
lost-in-qatar

What are you insinuating, I'm from quebec born and raised :))))

By RyanCanuck• 3 Oct 2012 12:53
RyanCanuck

t_coffee, you were 100% right.

By Miss Mimi• 3 Oct 2012 12:53
Miss Mimi

Prism did you just say it's ok to kill a woman because she argues?

By RyanCanuck• 3 Oct 2012 12:52
RyanCanuck

Wow. Just...wow.

By t_coffee_or_me• 3 Oct 2012 12:52
t_coffee_or_me

They are thought what to think and not how to think from the time of their birth.

By Prism• 3 Oct 2012 12:50
Prism

Argumentative wives (and I guess they are so under the continued assumption that men treat them unfair and consider them less competitive based on outside influence, mostly from the delusional feminists for whom being feminist is their bread and butter) can be good reason to get on the nerves of man to a point that he wants to save the world from her eccentricities by simply killing her. I think such men should be awarded for the sake of preserving the sanity of the human race and men in particular...:)

By RyanCanuck• 3 Oct 2012 12:49
RyanCanuck

^Now you are 'acting of frenzy', Tinker. Stop being such a woman! ;)

Segmund, you shouldn't be dispensing advice to anybody.

By Segmund• 3 Oct 2012 12:44
Segmund

I still like u as a cool friend. :)

By Miss Mimi• 3 Oct 2012 12:38
Miss Mimi

LOL Brit. That must be it!

By RyanCanuck• 3 Oct 2012 12:29
RyanCanuck

What a load of crap.

By britexpat• 3 Oct 2012 12:28
britexpat

Does this mean that whilst men are emptional, women are cunning ?

By Segmund• 3 Oct 2012 12:26
Rating: 3/5
Segmund

My lovely if you want to argue for the sake of argument, I withdraw.

It is a fact that men and women are not exactly the same. And that is not to suggest that one is inferior or superior to the other. They are just not the same fabric. One has two X-chromosomes and the other has just one. Beside, there is an additional Y which the other counterpart is lacking in. This translates to differences in every, literally every single aspect of their existence.

The problem is that through centuries of persecution and discrimination women have developed a mindset which just refuses to accept these differences. To this mindset, anyone who speaks of the existing differences is a violator and a foe, and can never be regarder as a well-wisher.

When I talk about equal rights, I do not mean, equal structure or make-up. A woman deserves the same food, the same clothing, the same education, the same health facilities, the same respect and the same right to live in this world exactly as the man. This is my proposition. If you still do not get it, I am sorry, but I have to doubt your vision.

When I talk of differences, I stand by my word that, generally speaking, women are more emotionally labile. I am never denying that there are many women who are as strong nerved as men, some even more. And there is no denying the fact either that some men too are temperamental. But generally speaking, the two genders definitely differ in their emotional and behavioral repertoire.

There is a reason for everything. And the reason I believe that women are physically weaker is that they are vulnerable to acts of frenzy more than men. Again that is in no way to exalt men. Men too have more levels of testosterone and therefore are proven to be more aggressive than women. So it is not a blame game, and nothing to do with sexism. I like men and women all the same, we are all just equal humans in the eyes of God, and should remain equal in our own eyes as well. The difference that we have been born with are insignificant when it comes to being human. We are first human and next men and women.

By PrarieFire• 3 Oct 2012 11:41
PrarieFire

inb4 someone starts white knighting

By Booyaka• 3 Oct 2012 11:40
Booyaka

Men be careful !!! specially when the woman is in her period, even good hearted women get angry too quickly in her period.

Dont upset your woman or she will kill you, and i will get your news in paper haha

By britexpat• 3 Oct 2012 11:15
britexpat

Oh for goodness sake.. "20 years of Quebec homicide files."

French Women - Need we say more :O(

By memphis7• 3 Oct 2012 10:52
memphis7

...for insomnia

By Miss Mimi• 3 Oct 2012 10:36
Miss Mimi

If women are so emotional, than how come the vast majority of domestic homicides are committed by men? They're obviously the ones loosing their tempers and killing their spouses? So by default aren't men the more emotional ones?

By FathimaH• 3 Oct 2012 10:33
FathimaH

This is something I can vouch for...women tend to be better at verbal abuse than men. A lot of them know exactly what to say and when to really hurt the psyches of their partners and even kids. Enough actually to drive them to even kill themselves.

Men on the other hand tend to use physical aggression more. Either ways domestic abuse is by far a scarring experience to live through!

By RyanCanuck• 3 Oct 2012 10:33
RyanCanuck

Lol - homosexuals, handicapped people, heavy people and now women - Segmund, who do you not stereotype?

By anonymous• 3 Oct 2012 10:31
anonymous

For the female of the species is more deadly than the male- Kipling

By Segmund• 3 Oct 2012 10:28
Segmund

First off, I am a staunch supporter of equal rights for men and women. I do believe they deserve to be treated equal in all respects. However, the fact remains that women do have emotional lability that makes them vulnerable to the errs we humans make so often at moments when sentiment is put before prudence.

By Miss Mimi• 3 Oct 2012 10:28
Miss Mimi

I don't think women abusing there husbands is as rare as people think Fatimah. And physical abuse is just one kind of abuse. I think women are more prone to use emotional and verbal abuse, which can be just as devastating.

By FathimaH• 3 Oct 2012 10:22
Rating: 4/5
FathimaH

And it's true that very rarely do you find wives battering their husbands without any kind of provocation compared to the men who do so. From what I to have seen, women who beat their partners are usually in a kind of relationship where domestic abuse is practiced by both parties.

By Segmund• 3 Oct 2012 10:20
Segmund

The reason why God did not make them physically stronger is because, due to their lability of emotion, they could wreak havoc upon humankind, had they had a mightier hand.

By PrarieFire• 3 Oct 2012 10:16
PrarieFire

Kept thinking of a praying mantis as I read this post

By Miss Mimi• 3 Oct 2012 10:11
Miss Mimi

I think the hormonal stuff, like postnatal psychosis would come under documented psychiatric conditions.

By FathimaH• 3 Oct 2012 10:09
FathimaH

Scary.. Notice though they never mentioned hormones and cycles. I'd have thought that's one reason why some women can get strangely moody and even unexpectedly violent. Perhaps women are still though, for the most part, better at controlling themselves as opposed to the amount of men accused of spouse killing, wife battery and the likes.

By Miss Mimi• 3 Oct 2012 09:55
Miss Mimi

To me it basically says that women are as passive as we would have you believe.

By FathimaH• 3 Oct 2012 09:49
Rating: 4/5
FathimaH

But one that does need to be read, and understood. Guess women are more of the emotional, spur of the moment, time killers and not as premeditated as most male killers are. I suppose we can say they use "surprise" as their foremost weapon, before even the knives are out...or in...*shudders*

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