Why just women?

At least,now i'm fully aware of the culture..

At least,now i'm fully aware of the culture..

Respect

Right Brit, the major source of revenues left for Dubai is tourism and toll/parking fees/fines.

Abu Dhabi & Sharjah follows Saudi's cultures (conservative approach).

Read here

http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/cover-campaign-hits-gulf-streets-143413334.html

Fluffy123, you hate seeing men's hairy thighs during shopping?

Unless if the shorts are too tight..(what I mean by too tight is that you can see the division sign in the front) I don't think it is a crime to wear shorts for men..

common.

You shouldn't be ogling at such sights ... Turn away at the first sign..

honestly yes men do dress inappropriately. but majority of indecent dress does come from women. you don't see men wearing midriffs and short skirts. And men don't have cleavage hanging out. the fashion industry creates more revealing cloths for women than the men's fashion industry does.

but men definitely need to be banned from wearing shorts. i hate seeing men's hairy thighs while im shopping. totally gross.

You know Dubai very well from Deira's Naif road to JBR dividing line between poor and rich by New Dubai.

Why we talk only about UK, what about Russians and Africans too servicing locals of the country and Regional guests.

Late but least Dubai woke up for whatever reasons, its good.

Peace

Brothels ?

Why would anyone want to drink Broth in such a hot weather..

I was just kidding with the UK tourist joke UK & Brit, forgot to add the ;)

There are lots of pro's in Dubai and Abu Dhabi (as there are in Doha) but you can't arrest every skimpily clad woman as a prostitute. Especially since most of them cover up in abaya when they go out to do their business.

In general the police here are concerned with stopping trafficking and busting up brothels, rather than arresting single pros. Same as in most countries.

of air/landing rights issue between the two countries.

Anyhow, I might be visiting Dubai, can you be specific on your areas? Lol!

Well about the low and high-end rates, just pm me. LOLZ!

"Yes, it is still going on, but honestly, you can't arrest every single person you think might be a prostitute (or you'd be arresting every tourist from the UK in Dubai)."

A bit harsh.. I know we sometimes like to mingle and have a good time, but .............

let me complete that for you Brit.

I think MM is forgetting that the these prostitutes in Dubai are servicing the locals as well as the Saudis that come over for the weekend. Dubai has never been the tourist destination for British single males they rather prefer to go to Thailand or Philippines.

Yes some lonely single men who are working in AUH and Dubai may frequent these places.

Then there are pros to suit the Budgets if you go to Naif road Deira area thats where your low end Pros are, where as in the Jumeraih Beach Hotel and towards Dubai Marina Area along with Sheikh Zayed Road Hotels cater for your top end market. The best of all are the House Orgies and parties at the locals..:)

Sorry for the little Hijack Miss Mimi just wanted to get the record straight. Now I wonder why they banned the Canadians from Free entry to the UAE..:)

I enjoyed my time in Abu Dhabi and yes Abu Dhabi is way ahead of Dubai in may ways.

I don't actually know the words to God Save the Queen :S

is she required to sing? Oh yes, but can she sing? Lol! Peace MM.

MODS: Please ban Miss Mimi.. She is not only casting aspertions against mild mannered, but fun loving Brits, but did not sing God Save the Queen at the Jubilee Celebrations ....

Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpmh!

Blame your yellow speedo Brit! You know how you look in that thing! ;)

"Yes, it is still going on, but honestly, you can't arrest every single person you think might be a prostitute (or you'd be arresting every tourist from the UK in Dubai)."

A bit harsh.. I know we sometimes like to mingle and have a good time, but .............

let's just wait what happened on the ground!

Don't get all your information from TV Flor. Citizens arrests are not that cut and dry, and they depend on the severity of the crime.

And there is not such thing as citizens arrest in the UAE, so it would be harrassment pure and simple.

77% of sexual abusers are parents.

Parents buy their children's clothes.

Therefore parents buy kids sexy clothes and then want to rape them.

Can't you see the link between clothes and sexual assault?

if it's a private citizen complaining or a police complaining? Even in the West, you have this so called, citizen's arrest, right. So as I said, "no harm, no foul".

Babu, what in the hell does sexual assault stats from the US have to do with this thread?

Because you visted the US? What a stupid question.

Nearly 1 in 5 Women in U.S. Survey Say They Have Been Sexually Assaulted can we know why ?

The implementation is going to be very important. I really think brochures and posters demonstrating proper dress are excellent ideas and should be instituted even if a law isn't passed.

And I think the enforcement of the law needs to be in the hands of the police, not "concerned citizens" or self appointed muttawahs. If someone starts harassing someone for what they are wearing, than those people need to be arrested as well.

it's the message not the actual implementation. I just look it like this, "some people will be lucky and some will not be". If you're caught, then you are unlucky, if not, so what. The "leniency" of authorities there is also compromised when they turned to tourism as their other source of income. So unless someone complained, the rule remained, "no harm, no foul". To some, it's the thrill or risk of tripping on the limits!

lol how can a senseless talk sense

you make me smile Moza. And I thought you talk sense?

Actually the new law is also about the enforcement of things like public displays of affection.

And there are vice arrests every single day in Dubai. Just read the papers. Brothel owners and human traffickers are arrested all the time. And the punishments are harsh.

Yes, it is still going on, but honestly, you can't arrest every single person you think might be a prostitute (or you'd be arresting every tourist from the UK in Dubai).

Yeah and it doesn't exist in Doha either....

I'm sorry Flor a country can't be Islamic. Does it pray 5 times a day and peform Hajj? Only people can be Islamic. A piece of dirt is just that.

This is all a storm in a tea cup. Maybe they should do something about the rampant prostitution in Dubai rather than the evil short wearers. Funny how none of the locals ever bring that up and there are no vice arrests.

Abu Dhabi follows Saudi??? News to me. Abu Dhabi is far more liberal than Qatar and Sharjah. Honestly, in many ways it's more liberal than Dubai.

Also the minister has said that this shouldn't be aimed at tourists, it should be aimed at residents.

UAE will soon make mandatory to all foreignere to clear assessment test about the local cultures and traditions prior getting entry visas.

Actually I think it will be passed. However I don't expect the dress code to be too harsh. No shoulders, no cleavage and nothing above the knee. And I suspect that it will only be enforced in public areas like malls.

To be honest, I can't see much happening in reality. Dubai is dependent on tourism, so they can't afford to be draconian.

It is a move to appease the conservatives and probably Abu Dhabi.

Life will go on as normal..

UK Eng - Law? What law?

If you read this article you will find that there actually is no law, so hence no punishment for "offenders".

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/minister-backs-call-for-mall-dress-code

There are people looking at the notion of a Federal Law, but for the time being it's just a bunch of people trying to save the world from shorts.

I'm not complaining Brit. I think the laws are necessary. But I'm allowed to worry about how it will be enforced.

Uk, they're going to do what I do. You have a tank top, you wear a cardigan over it. You have a dress above the knees, you wear pants under it. You have a skirt that's too short, put on an abaya over it.

I have seen Sheikah shake hands with many on her foreign trips?

Anyway getting back to the topic. What will women do now with all those clothes that they had bought before the Law came into effect.

Miss Mimi what do you think?

I could not understand this statement "It is NOT permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and His Messenger to put his hand in the hand of a women who is not permissible for him or who is not one of his mahrams. Whoever does that has wronged himself (i.e., sinned)"...a mahram, as per WIKI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahram) is "Anyone who a Muslim is not allowed to marry is mahram, if they are of the opposite sex and have reached puberty".

what is Islamic country is and why it's known for that?

Sorry to tell you but Qatar is not an Islamic country, no country can be Islamic. Some of the people here are Muslim but then a lot more are not muslim. I'm not sure what you are hoping to find but don't expect paradise, just expect a normal country with its good and bad points.

Peter, I do not know...you'd have to ask them.

Sleazy :) I like your vocabulary Nomerci

Also, Why do covered girls in here wear these stripper style high heels?...

It so hot though..

it's not how you see it, it's how they see it.

Would you risk arguing about it in front of a judge or a police?

Ok, let's say you won in the 2nd person or persons, what happen next?

Well, no, not really.

See, here is the thing, and maybe only women "get " this. You can look very sleazy although you are covered from head to toe.

Then, you can look very nice, proper and well dressed wearing a dress with no sleeves that ends above the knee....

OK .. Back to the topic..

People have been complaining about not having clear guidelines and laws regarding dress.

Now that they're in the process of delivering, we are still complaining.

At least we'll know exactly where we stand..

and glitter on nose :O)

Lol too much curiousness leads to bald head :/

I'm still curious about the glitter.. :O(

reading the article...

I noticed "Emirati girls launch campaign over tourist dress code"

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/emirati-girls-launch-campaign-over-tourist-dress-code

Oh this dress code thing is really getting serious. Seems no more weekend trips to Dubai...:(((

Victory...it is OK...I will not push you to say... I think u are feeling nervous already...:)

Update.

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/uae-minister-supports-federal-dress-code-law

Looks like it's just a matter of time. I sincerely hope it is enforced fairly. :(

Yeah.. those shiny sparkling make-up things they spray on the separator line. It gives a nice effect and it shows a better tit definition and alignment.

It is nice when it is not too much because it gives the impression that she is dedicated and goes for it.

PG...u sure are very near to be considered as ogling...'glitter between the breasts'...lol.. never saw so far. Will keep it on the list though, just for the heck of it...:)

I am on public forum.....but i could not find a better term to express :(

Glitter ??

that's a new one on me ... :o(

Nah, cannot be pimps... something else...:)

lol pimps

Please people, don't get me wrong.

I strongly encourage exposing assets. When you have a nice car, it is just wrong to park it in the garage all the time.

But you can't just go around saying, I dress up for myself because it makes me feel good. No..You dress up to get attention, which makes you feel good about yourself.

Also, girls.. do us a favour, take it easy with the glitter on in between your breasts... It only says, you are begging for attention in a place where men would hit on a tree..

What do we call people who are responsible for those over exposed assets...:)

"They are the only ones that usually dress up like sluts and then get annoyed when men look at them?

It's like i wanna show my boob but you can't look at it?

And when asked, they say that they dress up for themselves not for others"

"we dress up for ourselves".....

Only Satans are on lookers at over exposed assets

Pretty sure PG, UK and Brit are taking the piss Victory. And who is he? My father, brother and husband would never dare tell me what to wear. They realize I'm an adult and perfectly capable of dressing myself.

love to see UKENG, Brit and Peter for defending the case....Thanks buddies.

Just look from a different perspective, who is drafting this law to protect Women; HE is your Father, Brother and Husband.

Brit I just give them a Benny Hill smile..:)

DP

I hope that unlike Miss Mimi , you don't drool :O)

j/k NM me and shopping is like trying to buy all the things as fast as I can and get back home! O I hate shopping..Grrr So we poor husbands need some compensation for doing the shopping..:)

Ah, I see.

nomerci, thats all a Married man is allowed to do, when he is alone doing the shopping! :)

So blaming the onlookers ^_^ from ogling!

UK...as a married man, should you not avert your gaze? :P

"crying to be released" :O)

lol or the squeezed pushed up goods thinking they can trick us squadrons with a lifetime experience...

In your dreams... We smell good ones from far.

dp

How about the overflowing bumpy bits which are crying to be released from those one size too small bra's and dresses..:)

I saw a man doing that rectum thing last Thursday in Orion...was on his knees in front of two chicks for almost half an hour or so.

PG...awesome...:)

Best is when they wear these mini skirts, where if they bend 1 cm, their rectum is showing to the crowds.. and then..

Look at this pervert he is looking at me..

Whaaaaaat? lol

PG you hit the nail on the head mate.. "we dress up for ourselves" as if..lol

Why just women?

because they are the only ones that usually dress up like sluts and then get annoyed when men look at them?

It's like i wanna show my boob but you can't look at it?

And when asked, they say that they dress up for themselves not for others..

hehe I love how some women think.. Their logic is very unique

They're jealous of how I look in my thigh high latex boots and halter top UK.

Did I hear someone complain about what Madonna was wearing in concert a few ago?

Why are they always picking on your average Western ladies. Like My Miss Mimi..

Stop influencing your FREE culture here, you may love & enjoy nudes.

Be modest, stay within social boundaries and respect laws of the land.period

Peace

There is a difference Brit. I'm just saying that its ridiculous to say

"Women are more attractive when part/wholly nude if compared to men... thats why?"

Because women find men just as attractive as men find women.

Is there a fine line between "enjoy looking" and ogling. Since many women here complain of this ?

As for Alexander, he's nothing special.. I have the same number of legs, Same number of Eyes and other body parts. OK, he may look taller oiled up, but I do look cool in my yellow Sppeedows and flip/flops.. :o)

what if one has both the $ex

I think both sexes enjoy looking at attractive people Brit. Which is why if you force one sex to cover up, you have to force the other too.

We can't have Alexander Skarsgard walking around half naked. It's libel to cause a riot!

Then you would agree that the same can be said for men :o)

Of course Brit. Anyone who thinks that women don't look and drool as well is an idiot.

So, you DO look and drool :O)

Sorry but the guy I saw running shirtless on my way to work this morning and plenty of humps and bumps in all the right places. Looked like Alexander Skarsgard! Yuuuummmmmmyyyyy! I'm going to have to time my drive to work!

No Padre I cannot see her I only have a picture of a Palm Dubai Hotel in my top left corner. May be I will see plenty of ladies there?

she keeps smiling at me.

Ukeng, you notice it, too? Lol!

The only lady that I can see is Miss Mimi.

There was no problem in UAE until Miss Mimi moved there! Would it not be easy to send Miss Mimi back rather than implementing all these new dress codes..:)

i can see a lady on the top left of my screen wearing a black gown showing her clevage....:( isnt there any rules in this site saying women should dress decently whenever they are on a social networking site ?....:)

at the lady in black dress at the left side of your frame. Is that what they call cleavage? Lol!

There will always be exceptions...for some "privileged" folks, rules after all are meant to be broken!

Now the questions is will they be issuing these kind of Brochures to the Likes of Madonna or other pop star performers frequently performing in the UAE?

There go your weekend trips to Dubai :o(

UAE first Doha next?

So why do they do it when they are with other men?

Yes, they don't want men to play with themselves anywhere and everywhere...that's the reason there is dress code for women.

Dont this people have anything better to do then to go about and advise and force people to wear what looks comfortable to this people and not to the one who is actually wearing the clothes. Looks like people have more time to offer suggestions and advises to others then they have time to do some productive work themselves

Or how about those men who play with themselves anywhere and everywhere ewwwuuuh!

well, living in NAHDA, Dubai, i can see women in skirts from my balcony.

MM, better U move here ;)

Doha infidel, enjoy while you can, it may be the next thing on the list....

What I don't get is that when local women go home they wear the same clothes as western around their children/family. Is it the issue that they don't want children to see knees and shoulders? or that they don't want men to have the opportunity to be able to see other WOMEN?...I highlight as I agree that this article is clearly aimed at women dressing 'decently'.

Instead shouldn't children be taught about different cultures and beliefs and be encouraged to respect them and have an open mind toward others.

This place is perfect...

As I am an ankle man....lol

Just remember who enticed who in the garden of Eden :O)

WE=Men don't reveal our humps or cleavages no matter how indecent we dress .. yeah they "Y" Generation reveal their Y's .. but thats even banned in Qatar.. And we are not allowed to go in public place wearing shorts above our knees

Women are more attractive when part/wholly nude if compared to men... thats why?

As residents, we will just take it and generally because we are paid well..

Regardless of the dress-code rules...

When it gets to a point you can't put up with the rules the locals see as important..you would do as others before you and just move on..

in reality it really just doesn't matter...

wish they would make a law about taking a bath...

Abayas make life easier..Had to wear them in Riyadh when off the compound, would say it saves the stares but it doesn't..Shopping yesterday saw a woman in short denim shorts it just makes me smile,people wear what ever they want but you have got to be respectful..

Why only expatriates?...Is the locals over there dressing properly?

Follow them on https://twitter.com/#!/OneOfUs_qa

This is exactly why I hate to watch cyclists or Hurdlers in sport :O(

This is really funny to see Men in Shorts and woman fully covered, the dress code is for Both genders.

Peace

UAE has woke very late; despite fines, punishments, deportations, nothing worked so a NEW LAW on modest dressing :)

I was at the Marina mall a couple of days ago and saw two guys walking through the mall in bike shorts and tank tops that left NOTHING to the imagination! I'd like to see what would happen if a woman walked around in the same outfit.

As long as the law applies to both sexes and is enforced fairly I welcome it.

If you have been on twitter lately, there has been a concentrated effort by concerned Qatari residents advocating wearing of modest attire in public places. The campaign is being spearheaded by Ms. Najla who also happens to design the flyers. It appeals to man and women alike. Follow them on https://twitter.com/#!/OneOfUs_qa

I agree with you. I recall in Riyadh, a Saudi couple moved into our compound. The guy used to come to the pool dressed in see through Jamas or skimpy shorts, whereas his wife used to be covered from head to toe...

she can stay anywhere in the GCC even if she has 10000 problems

Sure. I'm the one who always says tell us to wear abayas and get it over with. My issue is not with the laws themselves, although I do worry about how they will be enforced (and by whom!) but with the fact that they seem to be targeting just women, when men dress equally as inappropriately.

Shame on you. Jumping to assumptions :O)

I think that this is probably aimed at the tourists. However...

Hypothetical Question: Let's assume that these laws were introduced and some sort of enforcement mechanism implemented.

Would you stay in UAE ?

so funny...

worried about how someone dresses..

but not worried about the prostution that is rampid in the UAE...

What a joke..

I agree although not with this statement:

The law, he said would target expatriates and tourists who violate the traditions, especially with regard to the dress code.

He also uggested that the law also tackle other “unacceptable behaviours” such as kissing in public.

“These behaviour affect our children, who learn from what they are experiencing.”

Kids are more influenced by their favourite pop stars not by someone they see in the street..Tv,internet,youtube even the shops selling all the "normal" clothes these are influences..I have been in the middle east for 5 years and never seen ex pats kissing in the street..They are looking to blame others for changes that are happening in there own society..Kids want to do and dress how ever they like..

Not that I'm aware. But there are old ladies who hide in bushes to catch people making out. So I'm sure they'll start packing tape measures when heading out to get a Fat Burger at the Dubai Mall.

So earlier we wanted a dress code in black and white and now why only WOMEN. And we call everyone else shit stirrer...Duh!!!

Are there Muttawas in UAE ?

Not going to happen. Women will bear the brunt of these new "laws"

You'll see self appointed muttawas going through the malls with tape measures.

Brit, next would be equal enforcement....:P

OK.. So we are agreed that there should be clear statement regarding dress code for both men and women... :o)

Next ..

You maybe right!

Fathimah....laws should be for all....rofl......sorry dear, but that is a paradox in oh so many ways.

How about the men who wear shorts well above the knees NM? Or the one's who wear tank tops and tight tops to show off their muscles. Or the ones who go topless!

Fine..well and good to do away with confusions.Now ladies know what they can and cant wear.

BUT I agree with MM.

" Also, there should be big posters in malls and everywhere showing the rules and how women should dress decently.”

Why only women? Why not the men? Are they allowed to dress as they wish then? Can they wear shorts and what not?

See this is what annoys me about many people. They always act as though it's only women who have been/should be given guidelines as to how to dress.

Among Muslims you get So many men, who whilst strongly support the hijab, casually brush off their own dress code obligations as "sunnah" "not a must" "we are excused cos we don't do it out of pride" "women are different men are different" etc.

And then when it comes to setting laws against exposing, or not exposing, by authorities, the concentration is again on women and not the men. Why?Are men not capable of dressing indecent? Laws should be for all!

MM...you mean the thobe with no undies?

Or skin tight pants leaving nothing to the imagination?

Or wearing make up?

Brit, they were not party dresses...they were normal, every day dresses. Well, not here...

I agree Brit, it SHOULD be used for men to, yet here's this lovely quote:

“Dress code brochures should be given out at the airport and when the passport is stamped with the visa. Also, there should be big posters in malls and everywhere showing the rules and how women should dress decently.”

Women women women!!! Why not focus on the men who dress indecently as well!

NOM.. i highly doubt .. :P

I'm sure you were in a beachwear shop :D

Moza....weeeeeeelllll.......

mozai, lol....

Remember those private parties ... that's where these dresses are supposed to be worn..

Miss Mimi: The skirt length could be also used for Lungis and shorts for men..

MM...weird kind of fashion sense that.....but heck, some people seem to think that clothes should hide people...ah well, each to their own.

Bashing is fun for some members.

I have something to post for everyone to rant or bash. Coming soon (should upload a photo first)

I agree, it will not be soon enough to ban men kissing in public. When I first got here I thought the country was full of homosexuals!

Babu, the other 2% were there...they were covering the dowdy clothes.

CL..yes, I do have those.

There meant to be worn under abaya No Merci, or over pants and under cardigans and shawls.

98 % ?? Oh, extraordinary mathematic and observation skills

98 % where did the 2 % go

I want to see those pictures.

Just today I was at a mall here...98 % of the dresses for sale are above the knee and sleeveless.