Saudi Prince Attack in London

he/she/she male /He male / fe male......lol

so many are highly concerned

well if that's true,it's a sad day for British law(& law schools) is all i can say...

You're probably right gadarene. Although money can get you anything, even a seat in law school.

@ Pilgrim,he/she is a figment of someone's imagination mate,split personality kind of story,you catch my drift yeah? @ best he/she MAYBE a law student,of that also,i'm doubtful,as for being on this prince's legal team & all,come on,do you seriously think a REAL,responsible lawyer or law student even that has ANYTHING to do with this team/case will come & post about on an open online forum??? I don't believe British law school standards have fallen THAT much,do you? Not only does he/she have serious language proficiency issues, he/she doesn't have a clue about basic issues,like the one you pointed out...i've never read a book on law in my life(unless the John Grisham novels i read 15 years ago count!) yet i know the difference between an absolute & a constitutional monarchy...any law student on the planet,let alone in the UK or someone who is part of a high profile defence team ought to know that should they not?...lawyer my a#$,this is some kid living out a fantasy in cyber space...

Qatari Princess I sincerely fear for the future of law if you just found out the difference between an absolute and constitutional monarchy. Did your parents buy your seat in College? Because I have a hard time believing you made it on your own merits.

I love to 'bare in my mind' Angelina Jolie. God knows how many times I have bared her in my mind!

lol one shot, it's ok...

I don't care about the British royal family, Prince Williams is the only one I think deserves to be the monarch and if he becomes the king ahead of Charles then I may start respecting them a bit...

i am in syria right now so the weather cause "memory problems" :P ;)

bow her once in a year, this will never harm U :P

one shot were you frozen for the past 60 years???

Lol.. Head of the Republic Of India is the president of India, Ms. Pratibha Patil, we don't have any queen...

u forgot india

Haha... Thanks for enlightening us Qatari-princess and I thought till date that the Queen decides every policy in United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica, Barbados, the Bahamas, Grenada, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Belize, Antigua and Barbuda, and Saint Kitts and Nevis...

She is the Queen of all these countries in case you didn't know....

Yes we do know this - the UK is a constitutional monarchy not an absolute monarchy like Qatar.

The last king that tried to pull a stunt like that was Charles II - and we cut his head off.

i hope justice will find a way to be achieved.

Guys, did u know that tha Queen has no power at all?

The real power lies with the "old men" in the parliament, they make the calls, and the Queen has to sign (agreeing) to wht has been served.

If she did not sign, the throne would be gone, seriously, so whoever said the Queen was in charge, was wrong, nothing but wrong.

for part of a legal team to discuss something so high profile so soon after it was in the news. I would have thought it better to show a level of 'confidence keeping'.

I also find it difficult to see why a female (I presume Muslim) from another Gulf state be used as part of a team to defend a Saudi 'gay' Prince.

Zindane, the Queen is not above the law. If the Queen of England killed her gay lover in cold blood she would be tried like anyone else. The only difference would be that she would probably be tried in private out of the public eye. When people say she is "above" the law what they are referring to is it's unlikely she would ever be called on to be a witness in court.

Qatari Princess did he get legal aid?

@ Isobel,the humourous bit is the number of people that are actually buying this & attempting to engage in serious discussion!!! I notice your comment about John Kelsey Fry-QC has evoked no response!!! he/she/it is probably furiously googling his name!!! the fun never stops here i tell you! :)...

Oh no, I wasn`t in court, I was elected to provide consultation regarding his case. And you have both sides logically, mine was the Prince.

Q-Princess,

QL is kinda like a jail, everyone gotta take it at a point. don't take it personal tho.

yesterday. ;)

Isobel,that much was obvious from the start,i wanted to see how far she/he/it could put their feet further into her/his/it's mouth...

She is not in the UK, she is not educated and she did not defend this 'man'. She/he/it was making themselves to be out be something they are not.

@ qatariprincess,no offense meant & my apologies for going off topic but i ought to point out that i am consistent in my criticism...an educated individual that is studying to become a lawyer in the United Kingdom no less,should be able to spell & express themselves WAY better than you do...that is truth of the matter & as you said yourself, you can take criticism,right?...

John Kelsey-Fry QC - this is the man that defended the Prince. I assume you are part of his team and you helped this Barrister defend?

I just wanted to clear this as you did put this:-

Anyway, the man was a prince from Saudi Arabia, Prince Saud Abdulaziz AlSaud.

I had to defend him.

Lol....

You guys I am fine, it was quite a pleasure having to screw some of u off ! ! !

I didn`t mean any offence, and Isobel, thanks I appreciate your opinon.

and Saeadkhan, dont mention it, it is absolutely fine, enjoyed ur snaughty comments, but still nothing.

:D

The Judge was actually referring to the fact the Prince had at first claimed he had Diplomatic Immunity; he did not.

If this 'man' had been in court with another Judge the outcome may have been different. That is how farcical the law can be in the UK.

In this case the Judge was right in his judgment and subsequent jail sentence. This 'man' was a brute, a wicked person who treated his 'slave' with utter contempt. I am not bothered he was gay; to me that had nothing to do with the fact he murdered another.

I doubt he dare go back to Saudi; if he had any clout there he would have been got out of the UK very sharpish. So therefore, his life would hell. He may be offered asylum if he is ever released.

There have been cases over the years where 'lower' members of the British Royal family have been prosecuted as they did not have diplomatic immunity. Thus, he may be a Saudi royal but he is either already ostricised or he is not that high up.

Qatari Princess I am sorry if you think some members where being awful with you; it was to be expected as you did not make your point very clearly and if indeed you are training to be a Lawyer, I am afraid you are going to have get used to debate and being asked to clarify points by others more experienced by yourself. You can't get flouncy in court!

Thanks one_shot ,,

appreciate it :D

Uha, how skeptical of YOU

You know of all the people I have conned, you were the dummest customer...

always check the first topic

she wrote a book which means she is educated and not a spam as it appears ;)

now i need to go

syria and the real world is better than QL

now, it isn`t, unless ur is?

lol saeed

i mean qatari-p

typing mistake ;)

Thanx... one_shot

but sometimes, especially in social sites, u r obliged by ur gut to reply...

ans like u said, they shouldn`t take it seriously, but get over it...xPp

in debating and chatting websites we should accept the criticism no matter what it is. and weak people only attack others problems weakness and not the subject itself.

i had the same before but i don't care as long as i am doing my best to make my idea in reaching others mind.

so take it easy ;)

Lol...Well there u go...

My opinion>

Fair enough for a teacher, Adey!

Good luck finding that job

wow u guys are rather harsh but that is allright, I can take criticism.

On the other hand, I have something to say...

Do you get something by telling out the bad in people? exposing them? What does it feed your pleasure in any way? if it does, the do let me know!

You are missing the whole picture here, u r all crammed up the bit abt my writing seemingly forgetting ur own.

wht r u in ur 30`s, 40`s---70`s paralyzed facing ur laptop judging me abt my writing, commenting so that u can make a point and a fuss abt it. And yes, I am a teenage soap opera and u know wht, I am loving it !

Living the dream...well at least I am studying law and trying to achieve sth in this world unlike others.

So let us be straight, if u have a problem with me, let me know, send me PM, but dont write snaughty comments otherwise it will simply prove what I just said.

Get over yourself darlings...you are just wasting your time with me!

@ Adey,you're being too polite mate..."bare in mind"??? gives it a whole new way of looking at it eh?! *wink*! :)...i must say the law schools in the UK have seen a drastic drop in standards & criteria for admission if this is anything to go by...

r we talking about the same one who caught killing his friend in landmark hotel?

if he is a criminal then he deserves what he got, no matter the place or the status of this man.

it is not about equality here, it is about some one killed and justice needs to be done.

if it is not the case that i am talking about then i take back what i have said.

thanks

Royalty is not above the law, but they can hire better lawyers...

Another queen who deserves a similar fate is Sir Elton John ..

Am I wrong, but weren't a couple of queens beheaded in your country's history, not to mention a few that sat in the tower of London for various reasons;-P

So I would say, your Royalty isn't seen as above the law:-)

Whilst your English is ok, you need to work on it so that your meaning can be fully understood. I must admit I found your OP rather confusing and difficult to comprehend. The same goes for your post at 1:35am.

Please take this as friendly criticism.

Plus, if you are studying law, why are you talking like a vacuous girl in some inane American teenage soap opera?

:)

First of all, my texting?? It is typing you moron

and this is a forum not an essay doofus!!

I took the same meaning and FYI, if this prince was to go in Saudi he will not face any criminal proceedings due to his relation to the royal family in Saudi Arabia !!

PS: I wasn`t defending him, I am one of the elceted students to co-operate...

Some minds are worth looking after!!!

could be his servant was a premature ejaculator and the prince could not take it..

that the first thing he did after being arrested was to try and claim diplomatic immunity.

I could find a source ...but hey...do your own homework!

:P

diplomatic immunity when he said he would be treated the same. That has been an issue in many countries.

handover him to Saudi, and sure, he'll get what he deserves.

whyteknight/ex.ex.expat i am not arguing about the crime he committed, i am only commenting on the statement made by the judge. Commenting about another Kingdom (the privilege) while being in a Kingdom is not justified. His speech without specifying privilege or comparing a prince with an ordinary citizen would have been better.

PS. im not arab, saudi or gay :)

as we treat our queen?

What's the use of being a Queen if you are treated like an ordinary citizen within your own empire?

whyteknight excuse my ignorance that i didnt recall the post was about "that" incident. even then you should know that the Queen is above the law in United Kingdom..google for "is queen above the law" and you will get enough articles showing that she can do anything without being prosecuted hence not being treated like a citizen

My point exactly! ;)

He would have written "differently."

"Dont assume u would be treated any different"?

Because this is what she said. That's why I question it.

Read more: http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1429752#ixzz14RW9G4Na

She is still "studying", ex.ex. Give her some time.

And how can you be studying law in the UK when you write like an 8th grader texting?

zainzedan we have to wait for Williams to kill his gay lover to get an answer to that.

He was very lucky to have you to defend him!

has been discussed here,

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1364426

wow..a judge from United "Kingdom" addressing a saudi prince like that..do they treat their Queen or prince in the same way?