Saudi convicts men & women for partying

Xena,

Considering how certain QLers come across here, I am not surprised.

Thank God the World is not QL or Qatar ;)

evidence? I m still waiting

however, don't you think it was abit strange when it was discovered that they were actually locals, how the thread just died?

Xena,

Apart from some misunderstandings here, it's not relevant if they were locals or foreigners. The point was they are human beings trying to live their own private lives and they were stopped and punished by an autocratic savage regime of the Big Brother in the name of an evil adoration cult!

people realised it was locals that had perpetrated the crime and that they couldn't bash the expats anymore... its nothing personal...

I would agree with you. It is the Saudi peoples who must bring about the change. This is already occurring, albeit slower than expected. The monarchy does not want to challenge the extremists head on because they also fear losing their power. It is a complex mix, but hopefully, the young generation will be more vocal and bring about faster change.

What happend

No comment at all

At least they made the rules and they are following it forcefully. if someone follows the rules he is safe.

8 years earliar i was in Faridabad Near Delhi,AT 8 OCLOCK night suddenly power cut and invertor was out of order.

Our flat became hot so I & my wife came out of house and went to a near by park and sat on a seat.

within half an hour two police men came and called me 10 mtrs away from the seat. and started questions like.

who is this lady

what are you doing here

where are you coming from

dont tell a lie tell the truth.

(Saale maal le ke Aayaa hai our beevi bolta hai)

(Chal thane chal)

At that time no passport, no Icard

we explained every thing but they took us to police station

.And out side police station they started to ask some money.

At that time my wife was 6 months Pregnant and health was not so good, she started crying.I was feeling myself in a very funny setuation,I was helpless in front of police.

Luckyly I Found a person who was knowing me by face, so i given him a number and requested him to call from PCO and tell my friend that I and my wife are in police station.

Now the police man also started to tell us to go to home because he thought something but now I stayed at the police station. with in 15 minuites I can see my friends car he was parking beside police station.

Now FIRST THING WHAT I DID THAT I CALLED THE POLICEMAN AGAIN TO ME AND AS SOON AS HE REACHED TO ME, SUDDENLY IGIVEN HIM A BIG BUNCH ON HIS FACE AND TOLD HIM TO NEVER REPEAT THIS AGAIN TO ANY ONE.

REST WAS HANDLED BY MY FRIEND BECAUSE NOW I WAS SHOUTING AND THE POLICEMAN WAS------

Thanks GOD. now a days I can see a big change in the police system. now they are very descent, polite and Honest.

I AGREE THAT THE RULES ARE HARD IN SAUDI ARABIA. BUT AT LEAST IF YOU FOLLOW THE RULES YOU ARE SAFE.

Nic,like i said mate,it doesn't matter how much we debate this here,any change comes from the people themselves,I,optimistically i might add,feel that,over time,enough people & i mean,enough of the right people will change to implement,at least a balance,if not radical change...Sag thinks it won't happen & he/she is entitled to their views...time will tell...

Sag,

Well, that says a lot about that religion!

How about those who are oppressed there in Saudi and have no means to escape hell?

We are not expressing opinions for our own benefit (the lucky ones who are not born Saudis and feel oppressed there). We are doing so to expose the abuse of these poor victims and prisoners in their own country.

The fact is that Islam originated from Saudi and saudis are dead inclined to make it a pure islamic state. And they are unanimous on this. If some people commit errors like these then the majority thinks they be punished islamic way. What others think has little impact on them. They are living by their choice. Those who want to be liberal have the choice of migrating to other countries like Canada, US austrailia,etc. I don't think liberals will ever get into majority there. There are many territories on the earth where local customs prevail no matter what revolution the world has seen.

There is bound to be a time sooner or later in history when the situation in Saudi changes & they get in line with the REAL world,or at least,their next door neighbours...it may or may not happen in our lifetime but it is going to happen,of that there is no question,because as the world shrinks,Saudi does & will continue to find itself isolated from the international community & in today's day & age,hardly any country can afford that,doesn't matter how much oil reserves they have...

Like i said,change is imminent...a good example being the mixed gender university recently opened there by the King himself or some prominent member of the royal family...quite clearly,all the young men & women studying there are NOT close relatives of each other so quite clearly,it goes against the fundamentalist ideology of gender segregation,it can be viewed as just one barrier fallen,but it is,without doubt,a huge one...

In the meantime,stuff like this will continue to happen because the religious police have far too much power @ the moment but slowly,the progressive members of the royalty,realizing & accepting that the current situation is doing no good whatsoever to their international image cannot but do something to salvage the situation before they're completely isolated because that could very well be a scenario,world isolation(think Iran)...

Yeah, that's true... Thought I'd say it anyway!

Patrickfontdean,

Nobody is saying that they are in Saudi so your advice is not relevant.

Most of the comments here are referring to Saudi as the universally known laughingstock of the XXI century!

Really interesting stuff, guys, I've enjoyed reading all this.

For my 2 dirhams worth, I'm on the "if you don't like it, leave" bandwagon, when dealing with the rules of another country. When it's you're own country, it's up to you to make it the country you want it to be.

If you can do that by voting for your government, then it's easier - otherwise you gotta do it the hard way.

According to google trends Islamic countries come out top on searches of sex on the internet. Now I am sure most of the searches are not for research purposes.... so what does it say about these countries? Probably the acts of repression do not create a 'pure society' as the wish of the religious dictators but in fact just drives sex underground.

Says who swine flu? Are individuals not allowed to make choices for themselves willingly?

unrelated men & women cannot arrange any party in a closed enclosure together. They didn't follow the rule & get punished. That's it. For partying there should be separate Ladies & gents section.

Lessons should be learned: please drive thru the causeway to Bahrain and that should do it.

I quite like Doug Stanhope's tale on Moral police...

"Every vice is already a punishment in itself. There should be no such thing as a vice law: every vice is only a bad habit and the punishment is inherent in the act. You smoke cigarettes you get cancer, you die, you don't need a ticket on top of it . . . You gamble, you lose your money, the house has the edge, it's a punishment in itself. You watch too much porno, it diminishes your taste for the kind of girls that will actually f*** you."

He's kinda got a point...

Ecco, go to Saudi and you will see that and so much more live...they are a lively folk there! ;)

loads of paper money on one singer, stacks of money was carried in trolley (kinda food trolley) entire floor was covered with money

There are some pretty wild parties going on in Saudi. I suppose the more one forbids, the more people want.....

It shows Saudis are not biased when it comes to punishing those who are guilty of breaking laws!

Why do countries need the moral police? Isn't it everyones own duty do decide what is right and what is wrong?

Haven't we all been given a mind to decide for ourselves?

If God didn't want us to use it I am sure he wouldn't have wasted his valuable time making the brain something so complex...

Personally I think when its time for people to go to heaven or hell... the moral police are going to be standing at the gates of hell in droves... trying to explain that the reason they beat up so many people was to save them from being sent to hell... and God is going to be saying... sorry, but you went about it in all the wrong ways!!!!

"You don't have to pass an IQ test to be in the Senate"

Source : Bill Maher's "Religulous".

so this is not something shocking, this doesn't mean cleansing shouldnt take place, This will continue and in coming years there will be more filth around us, thats the reason every muslim should seek knowledge TO FIGHT THE CHILDREN OF DEVIL

Is that everyone is always so quick to jump on the "blame the expats" bandwagon, that no one ever thinks that it could be locals that do these things too..

I NEVER said they didn't get severely punished for it....

your quote

there is no right or wrong answer because it is open to interpretation. Some will argue that yes, they are allowed to intermingle if it is for furthering islam, and islam encourages education, thus it is ok for them to mix in schools.

unquote

Give me your interpretation, I need authentic source and who are these "some" you are referring to.

give me Arabic version of your interpretation I will research on it

xena saudi's themselves hv the same laws implied and same for muslims.....

smtimes thy have even more painfull punishments thn non-muslims....

john of arc... jsut one comment frm u to show me wht my country women does or not????

nothing to say old fellow.... keep thinking wht u think...

been reading your posts here Genesis...fingers crossed for you getting the Qatar you want. You seem like a well educated, enlightened man.

It would be a shame to allow extremist elements to ruin Qatar.

its always the expat to blame, but what if its Saudi nationals?...

Brit... with many local friends...I have seem some of the things that go on here... I can only imagine that Saudi's get up to similar things...;-P

and why shouldn't they? They are human after all...

You wouldn't believe some of the parties that went on in Saudi ... They make Qatar look quite staid in comparison.:O)

lol... So they were Saudi nationals.. What now? Most of the earlier comments on the first page are null and void now.. Shall we start again :o)

I love the fact that the people of Saudi are flauting their laws... not so nice that they are getting caught, but its good to know they are rebelling against an antiquated system:-)

Go Go Saudi...woohoo:-)

they were on education seminar

4 women only have 8 breasts between them so 3 men will be disappointed...

LOL, 11 men and 4 women, I was right about it possibly being a mass orgy with moonshine going around!

You are correct.. see following ..

Lashes, jail for immoral activities

By MD AL-SULAMI | ARAB NEWS

Published: Jun 23, 2010 00:37 Updated: Jun 23, 2010 00:37

JEDDAH: The summary court in Hail on Tuesday sentenced 11 young men and four young Saudi women to imprisonment and lashes after they were found guilty of spending the night together.

The young men were sentenced to serve one to two years in prison while two women were sentenced to one year each in prison and the remaining two to 80 lashes.

Criminal intelligence officers arrested the young men and women with the support of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.

Informed sources told Arab News that the commission got information an Arab man had rented a house in Hail for parties and had invited the four women to the function. “All arrangements had been completed for the party and they had brought liquor. But the intervention of commission officials turned their plans upside down,” said one source. “Although the culprits tried to run away from the site, security officers were able to track them down,” the source added.

I will replay to eco's question comrehansivly. I just need time to gather information of what really happened , from Saudi blogs and Internet forums.

As for intermingling , there is no clear Hadith that opposes gender mixing. If that's so, how come both genders are not segregated when performing the hajj rites and women must expose their faces ?

To justify something that is wrong is a sin.

But it is more sinful to use your brain to convince others to follow that kind of pathetic thinking.

kbaisi

2morrow i'm free, and will follow you to have a protest against saudi govt on their border.

this is the least i can help you.

who knows? it's open to speculation, maybe they were celebrating the birth of a kid, maybe a child's graduation from HS, or maybe they had one mass orgy and drinking moonshine, either way if someone complained they must have known what was going on or was once a party to it. It just doesn't make sense to me that a group of people would be so absent minded as to what they are doing in a place like saudi arabia, and I know the predatory nature of the Saudi police.

kbaisi

in Islam, there is no role for spies to go after on people in their private or secret homes, but if someone complain against these activities, its the responsibility of the state to prevent them.

btw, i don't think that they were there for education purpose, or on eid party.

Very good point Xena.

dot.com I don't believe being Arab will necessarily make you more of an expert. Although I had sharia classes at HS I never understood most of the principles and passed my classes with high grades all purely based on literally rote learning, regurgitating what we studied word for word.

Most of what I learned about Islam was from other people, or independently, and the most I have learned about islam was actually from a UK citizen of Bangladeshi background. Very knowledgeable guy and actually worked hard to practice what he preached, unlike the majority of those who take a more selective approach of what they do or not.

See dot.com this is where you are taking it into a subjective approach, there is no right or wrong answer because it is open to interpretation. Some will argue that yes, they are allowed to intermingle if it is for furthering islam, and islam encourages education, thus it is ok for them to mix in schools.

What about a party for eid? They can say yes, although they males and females are not related, we are here to the celebrate an islamic event, so nothing wrong with it.

Let me ask you, is there any mention of there should be people who actively pursue people even in their private dwellings to ensure they are complying?

This is why I hate entering debates based on subjectivity, everyone will go around in circles about what they believe is right and on and on.

so will comeback when I have a moment....

but again, you are all jumping to the conclusion that it was expat who were doing the partying...

Who says its not locals? Even though they know the laws... you want to tell me that they don't ignore them too?

I love how its always expats to blame but never the locals.... I wanna see you telling them to leave their country, if they don't like the laws....

i guess, Genesis and Kbaisi, being an arab will be more experts to enlighten about Islam, unlike the rest of new converted asians.

Tsk tsk...Watch out though,dudes, curiosity killed the cat,sah? lol!!

exiled

is there another state more than curious?

Go on, tell us what he said. I'm curious

what is that

i'm trying to get the answer from Arabs (genesis and you) for my satisfaction.

Question was;

what did Prophet Sallahu alaihiwassalam say about intermingling?

forget about scholars and Saudis

I didn't see the question dotcom. Well as for Arab nationalism it really isn't much the people can say or do about such things. Although it garnered large support all over the region, a lot of gulf arab leaders were threatened by it because it was all about 'sharing the wealth' but at the same time they did not want to be perceived as not being for the Arab cause.

All this stems from the whole issue with israel and trying to unite to defeat them for the humiliation they suffered. It's all politics and the model of governance was more akin to that of the Soviet union and not capitalism.

btw, i wud love to hear your answer.

Those saying they should follow the law the question is do you really think they were that dumb, a whole group of people, all openly celebrating in Saudi Arabia all oblivious to the fact that their 'rambunctiousness' would perhaps attract the attention of the authorities? Or was it more likely somebody snitched on them and the police with their unlimited powers there used it to invade some people's personal space?

Yes they have a right to have these idiotic laws but don't presume these people were openly breaking these caveman rules.

The best thing to avoid such situation is to "toe the line".

is what I hoped for myself when I was in a land where I despised the laws & was forced to follow them yet. That they succeed in migrating soon & bare with patience until then. But breaking the laws knowing the consequence is plain foolishness. Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

I think the policeman is only doing their jobs. The BIG problem is the law and rules of the country... and the funny thing is doing party is a crime already... so if you go in saudi or ME you should be like a robot, and we should be like that bec of there laws... the only solution is not to go or change there laws lol maybe centuries for waiting lolzzzzzzz

I guess the difference in France, (ignoring their stupid niqab ban) is that religious laws on not forced on anyone.

God's laws stay with God and mans laws stay with man.

What about the poor Saudis that cannot leave and do not agree with such harsh treatment and want to be free to live their life? Why are they punished by men in this way?

knowing this they still agree to go stay there for employment or whatever reasons.That's their choice provided no one held a gun to their heads of course. Likewise if a Muslim were to take up employment in France she/he will have to abide by their laws.. Such is life!

Not everyone in Saudi is muslim so the non-muslims should be exempt from this law....

I'm surprised the Saudis don't have a population problem with all this non-mingling.

The way I see the situation being outsider is this. Your faith is your personal choice and should not be imposed on you by the state. You do what you want on your own consience and the last and only judge is God. (Not men and its always men acting on his behalf)

Maashallah -))

a very simple question, want to hear from genesis and kbaisi.

intermingling? forget about scholars and Saudis

Dot.com - Looks like Saudis are world famous at Qatar ;)

FU

just wait for 200th, its very easy to get with Saudi bashing.

Not according to wahabis…he was accused by some for being Shiite and by others to be Masonic

Unfortunately , Many people in Qatar for instance believed that reformers like Jamal-al-Din Afghani or Muhammad Abduh were secular

Do you know that wahabis denounce the work of Avicenna & considers him atheist because of his philosophy although it’s well known that he was a devout Muslim?

Do you know that they use to teach us at schools all this propaganda about those scholars back in the 80's & advice not to glorify them because they were in one way or another influenced by the west

I missed the 100th Post :(

attracts so much attenetion??

Is it a way you all show your real face?

the answer to the thread is, Follow the rule of country and be safe.

Jamal Ud Din Afghani did his all efforts for unity of muslims, unfortunately at the time most of the arabs were interested in arab nationalism.

Omershah absolutely not,I just expressd my views on those you wrote, cheers

What’s wrong with the sacred Azhar?

Wasn’t the house of thousands of Islamic scholars for hundreds of years?

What about reformers like Jamal-al-Din Afghani? What do you think of him?

let me see first a clear look of new Islam from young and modern arabs.

which ifs and buts do you mean dotcom?

ah arien so thankful of ur thoughts tht wht would i do....

i think u r not happy with me bout smthing in past... isnt it ???

There is no If and buts in Islam.

Let see, how the arabs will simplify it more and more.

isnt he Political Scholar, did i ever profess my love to Ikhwanis

what about H.E Yusuf al-qaradawi, he follows less strict version of salafism. Why do those Saudi scholars hate him & consider his fatwas as Dismissible?

Care to elaborate?

why arabs are always first choice for cartoon's character in western media?

Aren't most key shiites in Qatar more secular than religious? That is the impression I got, by key I mean the big figures from merchant families. You are right though, they did stir up trouble in Kuwait, and we all know what happened in Bahrain for years, but then again Bahrain had a lot more. However even 10% if influenced by Iran can cause us problems.

Religion is the best tool to exert power and keep control of the general population..

Exactly genesis, even in mecca the religious police are more keen to 'discipline' gulf arab woman for transgressing laws on 'morality' but aren't as bothered for people from non-arab muslim countries. The golden age of the islamic empire was before all this ridiculousness from people like the Wahhabis/Salafis, Jews felt safer there than they did in Christian lands,who at the time had the same issues with tolerance like the Saudis currently do.

Not to mention these religious police turn a blind eye to certain parties thrown by certain Saudis... I won't say more in case I get chopped up and dumped in the sea.

count me in, if they are really idiots.

genesis,

The problem is that repressive ideologies will always flourish with the deliberate preservation of ignorance.

Omershah Ya you are right, in all parties , people get drunk and rape all the women not in hijab. what to do , so sad.

it's not only the salafis, Shi'at also can impose a threat with their ideology & their devotion to Iran. Although, they make up only to less than 10% of Qataris. But I’m positively sure, that they too wanted a representative in any future parliament election. Which is also a high security risk in my opinion

and you know Kingship is Haram

genesis

the problem start, when you or ppl of same mind set from your side start whining and blaming Islam for all these things happening around arab's world.

Can't u simply blame ur bloody system for all these ?

I gave up dancing many years back

Scared Europeans will say shahadah tmr

men and women should not be allowed to mix, it's against nature. Only homosexuality should be promoted :(

In an interview the emir did a while back when he just took over power he said that he wanted to move Qatar towards a democracy but that Qataris weren't ready for it, when I first saw it back then I thought what's the problem, why can't we have it ASAP?

Now I've come to understand what he meant and the last thing I would want is for the a group like the Salafis turning us into a mini saudi.

when will you get it?

Wahabism/salafism is a pure political movement.

It’s never meant for you people originating from the sub-continent

Have you ever been to Umrra or HAJJ and saw how the religious police pushed around your people to make space for the Khalijis and the royals (Al Sauds)?

Can’t you just follow simple islam?

Why not follow scholars like Yusuf Estes or Hamza Yusuf?

Thank you

"Women without hijab will provoke the men".....Ugh.....

I never knew men were such weak creatures to launch themselves at every female they see "uncovered". My belief "strong" men exist, who have good "self control", who can resist "temptation".

Why do humans twist the wordings of the holy books to suit their needs?

This kind of sad reports explain why the non-Muslim world looks at Islam as a scary threat!

Saudi is an open prison for its citizens and its residents and is just oppression pure and simple

arien i was talking about a party atmosphere, where ppl get drunk and all.....

its upto each and everybody's self control.. and islam prevents such thing from the root which can lead to these acts....

omer, thnx..take rest now and chillax...

Gud that i m not in SAUDI...lol

are taken away on the youm of qiyamah

genesis,

I understand that and I see the problem as serious, if not more than the one in North Korea.

Both are subjected people to abusers who use psychological aggression to intimidate and erase any trace of individual thinking!

see there are many things which have limitations. if u go out of them u have to pay penalties,

similarly there are rules, if those kinoff rules were practiced here so we wud hve been following them, its upon a persons will tht he / she want to go with or against any thing,

if i spit on the road in us and a police guy see me i have to pay the fine, if i murder some one in india i hv to be hanged or live life in prison, so every act has its own punishment so does the saudi rules have thier own... as said by dot.com

follow the rule or leave....

keep peace..... uff thak gaya kaam ker ker k

When Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab brought his reforms to the Arabs living in the Arab peninsula in 1740, his mere intention is returning Muslims to what he believed was the original principles of Islam as people of the region has strayed of the Islamic teachings. Many of his teaching was based on Ibn Taymya legacy,Both those scholars came in a time of war , famine & illiteracy

Wahabism flourished because of people’s need of solid Islamic fundamentals and values to hold on to. In addition, The house of AL Saud wanted a way to those people hearts in order to dominate the whole Arab tribes living in what was called then the Arab peninsula under their banner

No matter how obvious that those reforms Incompatible with the world today, those teachings controls the mindset of many. Not only in Saudi alone. But also in Qatar.

I did mention in many threads earlier, that the only reason salafi Qataris long for the upcoming parliament is to apply sharia law & implement a religious police for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice as they claim

lol arien...

a big "LOL"

Eco savy dont you have few at home?

I feel sorry for one born in that country, stuck there my friend, and with the brain washing in the public schools that forces rote learning and discourages creativity they end up going to universities abroad but are still not capable of independent thinking, not to mention becoming distracted by all the 'goods' now accessible to them.

Omershah said

If women are not in hijab it will provoke the men and will lead to illegitimate acts....

Are you serious? do you get a hardon when you see women not in Hijab here in Doha? Did you rape any of them? Just curious

Did you know that the rest of the world has reached the XXI century and unless unfortunate people live in the Big Brother’s state, where individual thinking is replaced by what the Big Brother dictates, adults are responsible to take their own personal decisions?

omer, i m not at all a PARTY ANIMAL and i don't even remember the last when i went for party..

I've born into a conservative family so i know what FREEDOM means..

As u've given a long detail about the reasons of partying other than relatives, i don't want to comment on it..Rules shld be followed but when it goes out of limitation, it develop protest and mocking by others..

For any humanbeing who is controlled "too much", the tendency is to break free and "indulge" every chance they get.

so wats ur point?

Aftab - How about one born in that country finds it absurd ? where should he go?

I just cant breathe among PIGS

it's an issue with most arab/islamic countries except for indonesia/malaysia,

ok lemme xplain.....

they r friends and partying and men and women mingling...

there is a diffrence between gathering and partying.

if its a gathering no one would interupt them.

if a women in in hijab and those ppl are having just dinner and all tht then islam dont prevent them

but if u take it to party then there is vulgarity which islam strictly prohibit.

if women are not in hijab it will provoke the men and will lead to illegitimate acts....

secondly its the matter of mehram and non-mehram in islam.. if u knw tht... so if non-mehram gathers and women are in hijab then its ok. but in party do you think these things are possible??

not in islam but in all the customs the guidence is quite the same. but muslims follow them and i dnt knw y others dnt.. bcz thy believe in freedom? wht kind of freedom u need??

u want a girl to go out partying get drunk and do some thing illegitimate and then regret it.. is this ur definition of freedom?? ur religion allow the act which leads to such incident?

think out of box and FOLLOW THE RULE.... dnt stick to WHY WHY WHY WHY am i not allowed... if u r not allowed , U R NOT.

try to think

if i'm not mistaken, homosexuality is the burning issue among locals here :P

this is why they are the laughingstock of the rest of the world!

Ice Maiden...the concern seems not for devilish thoughts but for devilish actions...:) and it is not entirely incorrect also...:)

hhhmmmm....

i wonder what saudi believe is the reason for the high rate of homosexual rape there, lol.

rules must be followed, if you can not fallow the rules then why the hell you are going there.

vkash, what do you mean true muslims in Saudi????????? do you by any chance want to tell every one that muslims all over the world other then saudi and not true?????????

Please do not generalize true/false as you or Saudis are not GOD.

what do these idiots think? That all men and women are so weak that when they "see" each other, they will have "devilish" thoughts in their minds....duh.

breast feeding is also a big crime because at the time of brest feeding women is not covering her chest?!!!! it is not allowded in Saudi.

kbaisi, thats y i've suggested to keep one POLICEMAN with them when men and women other than relatives wanna do party...LOL..But i know its IMPOSSIBLE..

Rules are rules..No one is forcing anyone to go stay there,sah? If you agree then you follow the laws..the men & women in question were foolish!So you wanna party don't go to Saudi..simple as that!And as for those bringing up this whole "breast feeding" crap..FYI this so called fatwa was issued by just one dude & his suggestion was turned down & treated with contempt.

women and men are not allowed to mingle at all soniya, that is the crime they committed, only husband/wife, or female relatives of the male.

All this is not true about Saudi atleast not in allparts of the country...I have heard from friends there that they get watever they want and also have a good time !

they should have breastfeeded eachother before commencing the party.........LOL

happy, the best solution in that case to allow one POLICEMAN with them so that he shld know whats going on there..lol (no offence)

with news like this, i question who on earth still follows these idiots' ideologies?

bajju, i've followed the rules of DOHA so far and thus completed my 5yrs here...I m not ignorant about ISLAMIC laws and rules..I know a bit..

Jeez...is there nothing called "personal" freedom.

Soniya...how do someone know that they are not doing any unlawful activities...in all probability with so much restrictions and people starving for doing 'that', the probability of 'it' happening are very high.

P.S. Prevention is better than cure.

motiv8er, kindly u change ur profile name first..its so difficult to type...lolzzz

I am not intefering with laws..i m just amused..i just couldn't digest that people can't even organize a party in SAUDI..Ok, they must have made one mistake by doing it till late night..But it doesn't mean that they shld get the hardest punishment ever...

kbaisi...fake calls can land the caller into problem too (though I dont know how much it may apply for a local).

Hi...Soniya... simply follow the rule, or leave the country….if you don’t know the Islamic rules...Then do not argument…. Just understand...if you r living any where…. you should obey there rules. ....in Islamic point of view...Unrelated men and women in a closed enclosure is not allowed, Saudi Arabia follows Islamic rules. So…a strict interpretation of Islam that prohibits unrelated men and women from mingling…

happy, parties shldn't be restricted if men/women aren't doing any unlawful activities out there...So does it mean that people shld inform police everytime whenever they wanna party or hang out??

so cool saudi laws, if you have enemies and want to annoy them just call the police to have random raids in the middle of the night while they are sleeping.

dot.com, thus i opted to come DOHA instead of SAUDI where the offer was even gr8.. i believe in FREEDOM..so i would never step in a country where one has to follow such strict instructions..

Soniya..yr tryin to interfere in Saudi laws..yalla no more BARTY 4u !

Soniya....unrelated men and women in a closed enclosure is not allowed, if I understand it right...:)

They could have done that in dunes without any problems.

In fact I like this rule, it helped me to have a peaceful stay at home here else the noise emanating from another falt of my floor was like karaoke being played in my flat all through the night making it even impossible to listen to my TV.

soniya

its against saudi law, simply follow the rule, or leave the country.

There are "true Muslims" in Saudi who will report such incidents to the religious police.

I have experienced such an incident while living in a huge compound

omer, i m sorry buddy...i can't abide myself with such nonsense rules where partying at own home is a crime..Y its against ne islamic law??? can u plz explain us this??

saudis are insane............. they don't respect any rights of the people.....

rule is rule soniya dear... you have to obey it....

I always say expect all the unexpected in Saudi.

Is this called a RULE?? how????? Doing parties at own abode is a crime....hhhmm...quite interesting??

If they had claimed the men had been breastfed they wouldn't have broken any rule and got off scot free. Idiots indeed.

i hope they apply same Rules here as well ? :)

but saudi is the place where such things happen widly

Saudi has amazing rules... aftr Rules r rules

idiots have to follow the rules.

they have special police force, whose work is to report all the unislamic acts.....

btw i think thy hv done quite rite.... u hv to follow the rules for the country where u live.... dnt u???

its same like breaking a signal in qatar and saying tht i should be allowd to do this bcz its my way of living and i shud not b charged for it.....

Am sure it must be a shawarma party with mint tea, but still got penalised.

OMG, oh no..Thats actually a very noble way to get rid from ne kind of harsh punishment by saying that they've breastfed the MEN..lol..WOW...

Women should've claimed that they breastfed the men !

lol rizk...But this is absolutely un-acceptable..

reported the police :)

Dumbheads should follow the rules and laws of the land.

Hot Humid climate makes them more MAD...:(

obv..if they dont allow the cops to join in..they are bound to get mad ;-)

Saudi is an amazing country lol

YES Soniya! :(

tats wat they are paid for ?

Are these police always on round to each locality, street, every corners of the house to find out or rather say intervene in people's privacy???

I am surprised who inform to the SAUDI police about such events..They have this habit of poking their nose everywhere..Its disgusting...Don't the people have ne rights to enjoy their life out there??? OMG, Its better to stay in HELL then..

bloody fools cant they sit back home and breastfeed ? :(