Rocket attacks - What purpose ?

As I said, that only proves one thing.

The Canaanites lands were invaded for being "holy" either from the Jews,Christians or Muslims.

get your info corrected, Blosted. Here is some info about the "homeland" of the Jews"

Andinia Plan refers to both former ideas to establish a Jewish state in parts of Argentina and to an alleged contemporary plan.

In 1820, in a precursor to modern Zionism, Mordecai Manuel Noah tried to found a Jewish homeland at Grand Island in the Niagara River.

The British Uganda Program was a plan to give a portion of British East Africa to the Jewish people as a homeland.

The offer was first made by British Colonial Secretary Joseph Chamberlain to Theodore Herzl's Zionist group in 1903. He offered 5,000 square miles (13,000 km2) of the Mau Plateau in what is today Kenya. The offer was a response to pogroms against the Jews in Russia, and it was hoped the area could be a refuge from persecution for the Jewish people.

The idea was brought to the World Zionist Organization's Zionist Congress at its sixth meeting in 1903 meeting in Basel. There a fierce debate ensued. The African land was described as an "ante-chamber to the Holy Land", but other groups felt that accepting the offer would make it more difficult to establish a Jewish state in Palestine. Before the vote on the matter, the Russian delegation stormed out in opposition. In the end, the motion passed by 295 to 177 votes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_a_Jewish_state

Talk about lands of the grandfathers...hahaha

Oh so you mean to say that the Palestiniand did NOT invade the Canaanites lands? And you mean to say that the Jews were NOT oppressed enough by Christians,Muslims,Arabs and Nazis enough?

Your views are bias

so Blosted, what do you prefer to compare to?

There are tens of examples, you know.

Would it make you happy to compare with the Europeans & the Red Indians in America? Or would you prefer Australia? Or would South Africa suits you better?

Comparing the Nazi movement with israel and palestinian conflict about the canaanites' land is as pointless as it can get.

At least there is one arab state daring to address the aggression with this clarity and just words, sending aid to Palestine and calling on others to take action and to reconsider the signed "peace" treaties.

This is an encouraging step which the Arabs haven't witnessed since ages, and this is giving hope that the good guys are still there.

Let's hope that other Arab states wake up from their deep sleep.

sure Marco. And it's the French people's fault to resist the Nazi occupation during WWII

It's the Palestinana's fault!

At least someone is doing something or attempting some kind of change...hope and pray they inspire the rest to take action!

I highly appreciate what HH the Emir said in the nespapers today:

"Israel usually does not stop any of its aggressions unless it is faced with fierce resistance, similar to that in Gaza, and in south Lebanon by Hizbullah"

Very true words

That's cause they argue less amongst themselves.

Miss Mimi, the soccer leagues in Canada have more international influence than Arab league, who cares what they say.

So do you think that means the Arab states are going to actually step in and do something for once?

the whole world know and the arab countries also that the Israelite are refugees of nazi war and now they made the people of Palastine refugee and make there life so miserable... why the world is not telling them to leave the land and go to another place or the place they came from...

what a boring post

I'm bored of the Israelis and the Palestinians now, let them kill each other ad infintum and hopefully one day no one will be left alive on either side. Time to go and do something more important.

History has shown that "to the victor, the spoils". Look at the Roman, Greek, Persian and Ottoman empires.

This is the way it has been and will continue to be.

"The Kingdom of Scotland emerged as an independent sovereign state in the Early Middle Ages"

Yeah? and at the stone age, it emerged as a nameless plot of land in the middle of bloody Africa.

So seriously? Lands do not have owners, only bullies that keep them for themselves.

So basically lands cannot be owned, only temporarily controlled.

So basically saying Palestine is for the Arabs is as naive as it gets (Arab myself).

Because before the Arabs there were the Jews, and you got the Christians poking their noses ,and lets not forget ,the invisible aliens that came from planet X.

http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/englandnot.htm

England and Scotland are not independent countries, the only country that exists is the United Kingdom of Great Britan and Northern Island.

Yes the Jews stole their land, totally agree but they are not going anywhere now so you need to negotaite the best way out as the Arabs are not the strongest military power.

Anyway the Arabs stole the land from the Jews and others in the first place, so at which century do you want to draw the line?

I meant "is that what Hamas" wanted ?

As I said earlier , Hamas needs to build up Gaza and provide people with proper facilities. This action means that Isarel will now destroy more of te infrastructure, kill a few civilians and make life harder for the ordinary person..

At that end of the day, its the Gaza citizen that loses out..

Willam Wallace is not a good example, Scotland is still part of the UK so he failed in all his aims. His death was in vain.

However he is right about one point, freedom is not a piece of dirt in the levant it is a state of mind. Would the Palestins who emigrated to N.America or Europe want to go back? Of course not.

It is slightly different from the blame the victim game. Here the victim is suffering, the offender is beyond reasoning & bystanders are trying to make profit of the opportunity. Eg. I sympathize with the victim when I want to put pressure on the offender. The moment I get I want, I turn a blind eye or accuse the victim of misconduct.This is not a Israel-Palestine game. It is a much larger game.It involves all those bystanders who are ruling a population who doesn't want to be ruled by that person & US of A is the only reason they are in their thrones.It is also a game of controlling oil & dollar. I am very sorry for both Israeli & Palestinian children who are innocent victims of treachery of rest of the world. Land never belong to anyone. Those who immigrate should see to it that they don't cause inconvenience to locals & locals should be reasonable & kind. Passports, Visas & international border treaties are cruel jokes on humanity to avoid repercussions of colonizations. We have already doomed our destiny & some of us are bothered about 'global warming'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

blame the victim game ay? She was raped cause she asked for it. In that case do you support the arab league sending weapons to the Palestinians to better defend themselves??

This will only create more tension, both ways it will keep going, more resistance will rise.

Well.. Breaking News..

Israel has killed the head of Hamas military wing and may be about to sttack Gaza..

Is that what they wanted ?

Actually Spocks and QDC's arguments are on solid grounds.

There are no real owners of lands, and till now most wars occurred over pieces of lands that were "holy" to a side.

I mean seriously, how bloody stupid?

You know what's really wrong? people actually putting up with it!

At least we can agree that the methods the British used to conquer countries were pretty unorthodox!

"We claim India for Britain!"

"What? you can't do that! there are 500millions of us!"

"Do you have a flagggggggg? (Izzie's face)"

"We don't need a bloody flag!"

"No flag,no country and I am backing it up with this rifle that I just rented from the national rifle association!"

The end.

"My question was about the actions of Hamas and its cohorts in endangering the lives of its citizens."

you come to my house and take over and I respond by throwing pieces of furniture at you to make you leave which results in you trashing my house and massacring my children. I'm the one who's endangering my family???

Great logic Britex

"Is his shoe equal to the weapons of the body-guards around Bush? No"

Did the bodygurds kill him ? No!

Lafta, you are riding around on one word. "Worship" is not only used in a relgious sense, it has a much wider semantic range. Guess, you are not an expert in linguistic!

I agree that Hamas is democratically elected. i also agree that Western poers have not given it the recognition it deserves.

My question was about the actions of Hamas and its cohorts in endangering the lives of its citizens.

Lafta, you have no idea how many Arabs think Hitler was great!

"...nuke Israel and Palestine and rid the world of this open sore" and do the same with all the "holy" places in the world, and there will be peace once the fanatics are gone with the nukes.

This is just what it takes.

FATIMAH AND SUN - you seem to have a comprehension problem. The govt of Hamas has been democratically elected by the people of both Gaza and West Bank. Fact. The Palestinians are now being punished for exercising their right to self determination and choosing the "wrong" option. There is no love of "democracy", liberty and so called "freedom" by Western powers and the reality of Israel has been recognised by Hamas to the 1967 borders. One side wants resolution- the other wants complete annihilation.

bolsed - "Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!"............"It's better to DIE on your feet than LIVE on your knees."

DOLORES IBARRUI (1895- 1989), "La Pasionara", SPANISH CIVIL WAR

QDC - "nuke Israel and Palestine and rid the world of this open sore"

the humanitarian "solution" from QDC the thinker.

God Created People ,

Did He Order To kill Each Other

It's only your word, QDCL. Nothing to prove. Everything you say is right - for you. It doesn't mean a thing to me, though. Why should I prove or approve something that's meaningless to me? I have better things to do, Cheers.

God promised it to me. Go ahead prove me wrong

God promised it to me. Go ahead prove me wrong

No, QDCLover, that's only what they 'say' has happened, but it never happened. That's part of the brain-washing.

God promised it to the Jews, then the Muslims. Fickle god!

Ha, ha, the gene-pool. The gene-pool of the so-called Palestinians has more similarities with the Eastern European and Greek people than the Arabs! Fact. But facts are not loved by the brainwashed idiots.

So, Blosted, "owning" a piece of land means you have fought over it until you got it. Why didn't they buy it from the legal owner? --- Because there is no legal owner of land! All possessions are stolen goods. Bought with real money from unreal owners. God did never give anybody a piece of land and said:" now you can legally sell it". So, let them fight and fight. Even if they win [by force] it doesn't make them the legal owners!

Arabic is of course a Semitic language and their gene pool is very similar. It's just the interpretation of imaginary friend that differers.

If we had no enemies how boring life and death would be

@Spock no,he is not, he is actually telling the truth as dark as it gets.

and yes, people have fought for the piece of land since hundreds of years,wars and murders .

Either a secular government or stop the bullshitting.

QDCLOver, you sound like Hitler to me and his "Anti-Semitic" ideas. Did you notice that he wasn't 'Anti-Jewish'? He was Anti-Semitic', meaning the Arabs who are Semites, would have been the next on his list. Most Arabs still worship Hitler and don't recognize that they would have been the next to be liquidated. But stupidity of the humans is infinite!

One other solution, nuke Israel and Palestine and rid the world of this open sore. No one can have that piece of dirt humanity has spent thousand of years fighting over.

Interesting point raised that the Israelis are desecrating one of the holy Muslim sites in Jerusalem and the world is silent. Not true many Muslims have protested, but Muslims seem silent while Saudi destroys Muslim heritage in Mecca and medina. I wonder why this is.

Palestine is only Arab land because the Arabs and Muslims invaded it, so lets not start who got their first arguments. It should be a one state solution under a secular government so all rights are protected and freedom of worship is available to all. (No matter how silly their beliefs are)

I can't comprehend the "righteous" part, about, dying I mean seriously.

This Zionism occupation is not the first, and half sure it won't be the last.

That still doesn't make dying in vain any righteous!

a way for me to look at things,brother, even if you are right(God forbid)...I hold on to more hope and optimism than that!

As I said, I am in at no one's side, no human has the right to claim a piece of land, precious Earth,his to be.

But this is how the world works.

Having faith that the world will change by its own is futile, humans got to eventually hold hands together.

But that will not happen anytime soon,at least until the last major religious war.

Something better must replace them...something more effective..one way or another!

Well the Ottomans considered it.

The British are still considering it.

So speaking technicalities....

Both, the Jews and the Phillistine are invaders. Both entered a land with a genuine population the Canaanites. The Jews came from Iraq [that's where Ibrahim comes from], and the Phillistine came from the Eastern Mediterranean, possibly in the course of the Greek war with Troy. In Ramses II records [1200 BC] Phillistine are said to have conquered the city of Ghaza coming from the sea. Phillistine as Ramses used it means "Invaders". So, who 'owns' the land? The Canaanites, of course, but neither the Jews nor the Phillistine, unless you consider a military invasion as a 'right to own'.

Come again,what did you just say? it wasn't a British state? Are you for real here?....please tell me you are joking.

Technically they did not start their OWN state.

The "Jewish" state you so call, is in fact a British state given to the Jews to settle on.

So historically and technically the state is for the British given to Jews.

But when they trespass the state, that is a different matter.

Your views are biased, the Jews were also very oppressed by Christians and Muslims in the past.

As they were oppressed by Nazis too.

Too many stereotypes and hate against them, and we still haven't heard their side of the argument.

Where are your historical facts?

Funny how sarcasm published by Nazis and others against Jews ,have been taken seriously.

the one's who talk to the media every now and then. They say they want peace. And many of them speak out against Hamas too...are they a minority? I don't know. Again I refuse to judge the victims, may God save me from what He puts them through, cos honestly I don't know what I'd do in their position.

Now as for Hamas, if their actions mean more deaths of innocents, since all the enemy needs is an excuse, is it good to give them, the enemy, that excuse? Or should they not think of a different strategy, as the decision makers in whose hands lie the affairs and lives of many?

Palestine is a sensitive place for some kind of people.

Religious people (Christians , Muslims, Jews) all got their own part and share of Palestine.

But I will not go too deep in the matter as Brit asked no politics and religion.

Which here, both are mixed.

As I said, you people are not paying attention , I said "Humans" plural.

So the world doesn't revolve around Jews,Americans, British or whatever you think you are.

We were born in this Earth and we owe it and its animals and landscape ,care.

So unless Humans decide to throw all their differences away (Including, Political,ideological,religious etc..etc..) .

There won't be peace.

Hell ,borders are not supposed to exist in the first place.

But remember it's not always these destroyed and suffering people who are doing the retaliating. Some of them do want the war to stop so that at least their surviving family and progeny will not have to taste of the agony and loss they go through night and day!

As I said, Humans are silly ,fighting over a piece of land.

Humans are just naive, Earth was not created for humans only.

Peace will only prevail when people get their heads out of their behinds.

Exactly, most people just don't want to die for silly things.

There is no honor in death if death was not natural.

You are missing the point. Most of us don't want to die. In this case, the leaders are are initiating the violence, yet the innocent people are dying..

Bloody hollywood....destroyed history.

Sadly, Braveheart is a film and William Wallace did die. What use is me slapping someone, if he comes back and not only beats me, but my kids also.

I think .sun summed it up. They are all in it for themselves. the people are just sheep led to the slaughter.

It is war....war makes no sense.

I mean do you remember when the British deciphered the German signals?....they turned to be written in..... German...

I mean seriously, wars (Especially unorganized wars), just make no sense.

We think alike. Like I was even telling someone just yesterday that peace can never be achieved for as long as we have power hungry and bloodthirsty warmongers at the helm of any nation or cause. These villains will play on people's emotions, beliefs, pride, patriotism, etc to achieve their own nefarious goals. Ultimately the worst price will be payed by the innocent civilians...sad but true!

To answer your question honestly, there is no solution to this problem.As long as ambition to rule the world is there in some ruthless hearts, no solution is ever possible.Because common men & women can see only immediate gains, they fail to understand long term schemes of these ambitious devils.Do you think Hamas is fighting for Palestinians or Israeli soldiers are fighting for Israel or US soldiers are fighting for common Americans?No they are not. They are fighting for a certain leadership who has promised them some benefits. Who cares for common people?

If the situation weren't like it is now millions of Euros and Dollars would not flow into Palestine and into the pockets of a few! It has to be kept this way for the sake of the so-called 'rulers'! Nobody cares for the people.

Gaza militants yesterday fired six rockets at southern Israel but later offered to cease fire if the Jewish state did the same, as the Israeli top brass weighed a stronger response to a flare-up in violence.

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=543420&version=1&template_id=37&parent_id=17

Not possible. Israel has a blockage in place of the Gaza strip - limiting things like food, building supplies and medical goods.

"It is not the same, since no Israelis are getting killed or injured by Hamas' actions. So, Israel does not really get affected"

so its even worse! We call that a massacre. Its the mafia boss analogy - dont blame for me for the killing of your family and burning down your house as its your fault for not paying me protection money. Resisting occupation is a human right.

And Hadjuk Split - only support them when they win. Seems to be rare lately.

The solution is that Hamas should stop firing the rockets. Build the infrastructure and services in Gaza to help the people and then try to get the Arab countries to help their cause.

At present Hamas (although elected) is made out to be the enemy and is unable to do anything.

repeat - "the solution is completely uncontroversial"

you criticise Hamas yet you cant provide an alternative. Can you answer the question = were the Partizans wrong?

Are you a supporter of Hadjuk Split ?

Any way, the article says ""The problem all along has been that Israel doesn’t want Gaza to develop" .

This being the case , Hamas is giving ammunition to Israel to keep destroying the infrastructure and thus stop development.

As for your question "were the Partizans at fault for resisting nazi occupation even though their people were being slaughtered in large numbers."

It is not the same, since no Israelis are getting killed or injured by Hamas' actions. So, Israel does not really get affected.

Hamas seems to be the scapegoat now. "Don't blame Israel blame Hamas..they started it..." get the drift? What if then there was no such rocket attacks to begin with? After all if you were Hamas, would you not aim to make sure at least one soldier on the other side is hit, knowing fully well that either ways the consequences will be the same?

Uncontroversial? No way! This war has controversies upon Controversies. Today one is just not sure who is who and who is working for whom.

All we see is that whether it be the actions of Hamas or any other bogeyman the poor innocent people of Palestine are the ones who have to suffer and pay the ultimate price.

What if Hamas is really not what they claim to be?

what does that even mean?

the solution is completely uncontroversial

quoting Norman Finkelstein:

"The problem all along has been that Israel doesn’t want Gaza to develop, and Israel doesn’t want to resolve diplomatically the conflict. Mr. Indyk well knows that both the leadership in Damascus and the leadership in the Gaza have repeatedly made statements they’re willing to settle the conflict in the June 1967 border. The record is fairly clear. In fact, it’s unambiguously clear.

Every year, the United Nations General Assembly votes on a resolution entitled "Peaceful Settlement of the Palestine Question.” And every year the vote is the same: it’s the whole world on one side; Israel, the United States and some South Sea atolls and Australia on the other side. The vote this past year was 164-to-7. Every year since 1989 —- in 1989, the vote was 151-to-3, the whole world on one side, the United States, Israel and the island state of Dominica on the other side.

We have the Arab League, all twenty-two members of the Arab League, favoring a two-state settlement on the June 1967 border. We have the Palestinian Authority favoring that two-state settlement on the June 1967 border. We now have Hamas favoring that two-state settlement on the June 1967 border. The one and only obstacle is Israel, backed by the United States. That’s the problem"

when there was arafat - Israel claimed there was no partner for peace. Same is said now of Hamas. The issue is a not a hamas question but rather an international one in particular the USA and EU in forcing Israel to comply with international law.

I wish I knew. But now perhaps those who want to see the end of the occupation needs to work on effective strategies.

And the question is do those innocents, being slaughtered due to no fault of their's, actually support these acts? After all is this fight not for them all? How can anyone support futile actions that only result in the death of more and more civilians? What if Hamas is really not what they claim to be?

Anyways it's easy for us to debate here on what is right and wrong..we are not the one's who's lives and livelihoods remain at peril due to the misdeeds of people from both sides.

"Non-violence civil disobedience"

is this a joke? How will that stop Apartheid Israel from blocking and controlling the borders?.

so what should be done to end the occupation. Example above - were the Partizans at fault for resisting nazi occupation even though their people were being slaughtered in large numbers. You cant see the parallels??

Non-violence civil disobedience.

But I, and a lot of others, know what dosen't seem to work at all: the rocket attacks!

then give the alternative

These moves by Hamas will not end the occupation, would it? So why then do actions that will only bring about more calamity upon those whose side they claim to be on?

In yugoslavia - my relatives fought against nazi occupation. The equation was for one nazi dead- 50 villagers must die. Are the partizans at fault?? Again what you suggest as an alternative to Hamas to end the occupation.

I don't condone what the Israelis do. I am just saddened that each time Hamas takes such actions, innocent women and children die in Gaza..

That some bias you got there Britexp. How uninformed are all you guys???

"at approximately 15:30 on Saturday, 10 November 2012, Israeli military vehicles stationed at the border between the Gaza Strip and Israel fired an artillery shell at a number of Palestinian children who were playing football at al-Mentar Hill east of al-Shoja’iya neighborhood, which is east of Gaza City and nearly 1,500 meters away from the border. As a result, 2 children were instantly killed"

To sun, miss mini, britex, WBL - what do you propose is the alternative for hamas as we are taking about the illegal occupation of other peoples lands?

Well put Abu.

I agree its not very effective but its all what they have and lets don't forget that first & second Intifada used only rocks !!

The first Jewish militia (Haganah) used arm guns & hand made grenades against the British mandate army and Arab gangs, this militia latter named Israel defense army IDF.

The world do not care about morals or rights, there is only politics (Money + Power).

US policy in south America countries and middle east by supporting dictatorships is a good example.

Personally I wish that we could solve these issues peacefully and reasonably, and in a loving, tree hugging way, but we don't live in a world works like that.

These conflicts happens all the time, but what is making it worst in that region that both parties thinks that God is on there side and there will be no compromises.

Hatred is passed from generation to generation and indoctrinated to children using religion.

Truth and Reconciliation act in South Africa is a great way to solve such a deep & complicated conflict.

Israel will never fell safe & will not survive as Palestinians fells unjust & denied from there rights.

Not doing this is promoting fundamentalists on booth sides and possibly setting the course for a third world war.

Just an afternoon rant ...

Wrong post

I am more concerned about the timings of attacks chosen by Hamas, just 1 day prior to declaration of US president. Has it got something to do with Iran attacking unmanned US drone just about the same time. What it has go to do with resignation of CIA chief. Is having GFs really such a bad thing in US? To cut a long story short, the game board is being prepared for US Iran war. Brace yourselves.

Hamas brings this on themselves and then complains about it

The rich Palenstians who send their kids to posh schools in London don't care for the ordinary people it is just a game for them. A way to stay in power and cream off the aid money giving by other countries.

They need to isolate Israel and keep the pressure on, by firing rockets themselves it allows the lobby in the US and elsewhere to demonise them.

Look at the way Ghandi defeated the British for a good example.

If they have ever listened to your logic they would have never earned it.

Personally I don't think either side deserves the moral high ground in that conflict. It's gone on far to long and too many innocents killed on both sides. Both sides are murderers.

Your points may be valid, but what is teh use of fighting guns with wooden sticks ?

I am tending to agree with Miss Mimi, but the sad fact is that It's Israel that usually gets the moral high ground because they let the world know that they are "retaliating to provocation"

abu why did the Germans give up if Britain was boobing them? I would have thought tits raining down from the sky would be a plus!

Maybe it is an illustration that, in fact, Hamas still does not have complete control over the renegade factions which are aligned to it.

Just to re-iterate - let's condemn and try to stop all acts of violence and war

Sometimes i just wish a big earthquake takes place and we have another continental where all the neighboring enemies are miles apart from each other.

Why dont people realize that NO LAND is their own, we all belong on this planet and none of us is gonna take it with us when we die. So why fight, kill and cause all this?

People are just stupid.

What is it good for? Absolutely nothing..........

It is easy, Israel is occupying Palestinian land, Palestinians have the right to liberate their occupied land.

When Israel retaliate by attacking civilians as they did in West Bank, Lebanon & Gaza, it is Israel to be asked why ?!

Imagine that the French resistance just stop fighting because Nazis are killing civilians.

Or England stops its strategic boobing on Germany because the German will retaliate.

Can't ask any one to stop fighting for his land & freedom, especially if he lives in a big jail called Gaza.

Israel don't need an excuse to kill civilians or journalistic or activists or establishing an apartheid system, or confiscating land or cut water & electricity & medical supply or jail innocents for tens of years without a trail or even an accusation!

This current heat is caused by Israeli elections to win the votes of Jews extremest living in settlements.

It started by Israeli troops crossing the boarder into Gaza strip in a show off act, but when it was ambushed by Palestinian resistance Israel ordered an air strikes on Gaza.

So please don't judge on people living in a situation were being dead is not much worst than being alive, while you are setting comfortably, free and safe behind a keyboard.

Just a morning rant ...

Agree with MM !

Two words

politics and Money.

Because every dead kid is attention to their cause.

Frustration or stupidity?

It doesn't help the Palestinians and they should stop to take the moral high ground.

Anyway, when you are at school you don't go up to the biggest kid and keep poking him in the ribs. Eventually he will turn round and hit you

Yeah, and they are 'playing with fire'! And what will happen to a child? It will get burnt.

of Hamas that wishes to totally obliterate Israel from the map. They want unending war compared to uneasy truce from Israel. So they harrass and try to escalate it to a conflict or war.

That's just my two cents.

Hahahahaha……………fire some cheap A55 rockets & get the real Air strike…LOL

One sooner or later would realize that the number of human casualties is a minor issue in most political affairs.

How many still recall the number of people killed in WW2, nuclear bombing of Japan, or Iraq-Iran war ?

Search the term "Collateral damage", it will help.

there is no good in war!

These are Katusha's mainly. They are small (Like a large firework) and cause minimal damage. 100 rockets were fired and no-one was inhured..

At least not as far as helping the innocent Palestinians go. And one really needs to question Hamas's motives behind all these attacks. Do they really have the best interest of Palestine's in mind? Are they really the heroes some have made them out to be? Many Palestinians are beginning to doubt their objectives too...and many proclaim they don't trust them. Bout time!

Its just like chess game, you can't play without opponents...

me too confused no comments