Polygamy: The HOW TO infomercial

Dali
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I would like to take this Opportunity to cordially introduce you to DA MAIN MAN ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYcmCGa5GVc

Enjoy the clip

By Victory_278692• 8 Oct 2009 16:15
Victory_278692

Yusuf Estes explained 'Polygamy in Islam' A practical solution to global social issues we faced today.

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By grandkruizer• 7 Oct 2009 15:13
grandkruizer

Wath iz ze broblem..?

By Don Robert• 7 Oct 2009 14:49
Don Robert

He's not a man but an idiot and so for his retard wives who is very proud of him(first wife said "allah be praised, I am proud of him"....2nd wife said "His manliness....3rd said "a loving lap he is)

That's why they have retarded children due to their parents are also retarded...

By nomerci• 7 Oct 2009 14:00
nomerci

this people only want s e x with different lady.

they make multiple marrage, so they can do it legal.

you think all this lady is happy?

Wallah, no way. But they can't say, if they say, there is too much problem

Man like this is bad.

Wallah.

What comes around, goes around....

By anonymous• 7 Oct 2009 13:16
anonymous

guyzz!!!!

why are u rounding up the words

y cant u get it straight and simple

GOD created man(ADAM)p.b.u.h ....he know about the requirement and his nature

so he cerated women

and gave permission to him to marry 4 wifeves

so if somebody is man enough to marry or keep 4 wifeves than why are v against it.

and to all my muislim bros...... the mushrikeen have work hard enough to potry such an image about islam.

so if a,b,or c is cheating on his wife or having a one night stand on a bussiness trip ppl are ignorant abut this or they r not even bothered to think about his acts

but if a muslim who actually as per the islamic shariyah marries more than 1 lady then these r the ppl woh start pointing out their finger and name it polygamy

wooowww!!!! that quite an achievement for we muslims...kuddooos!!!!!

and as for the above ratio 1:4

it true.

it will happen coz its among the biggest signs( reported by beloved proptet MOHAMMED) (P.B.U.H) of jugment day,qayamat or doomsday

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By Victory_278692• 7 Oct 2009 12:16
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Thanks

My point is still stand....as the very purpose of polygamy is to support for a noble cause, no lust involved but at the same time ones decision to adopt polygamy incidently annoying and disturbing the existing happily married life and which open up big challenges described in the above post.

By adeel_9298• 7 Oct 2009 12:00
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Those are good questions. I am not a scholar but still I will try to answer according to my understandings and my faith.

Your wife has a lot of rights on you. You have to treat her well and you have to satisfy her and you have to try your best to keep her happy. (For full details you can refer to rights of wife in Islam, you will find billions of articles on google.)

So having said that ... you have to keep your wife happy to be a good Muslim. Now this is where your decision making comes (Allah has given you the power to decide, and you will be questioned about your decisions).

If you decide to annoy your wife and marry another one, in my opinion, you are committing a sin, but again it depends upon so many different things, unfortunately life is very complex. e.g. May be by marrying another women, you are saving her dignity, providing her shelter, giving her respect which no one else was giving to her. Now if there is really a situation like this, may be annoying your wife is OK if she is unable to understand. But again, it is your call and you will be answerable.

One should personally discuss the situation with his wife, and if his wife is ok with it, he is lucky :)

But in my opinion if you are happily married, you should not think of polygamy as it is discouraged in Islam anyways. However, sometimes life puts you through a test, in that case one should pray that Allah gives him/her strength, wisdom and knowledge to make the right decision.

Adeel Ali

By Victory_278692• 7 Oct 2009 11:36
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How one could make his first lady understand that there are several instances/circumstances where so many unfortunate females, who needs support (widows) from male partners (irrespective whether he is married or unmarried)?

Undoubtedly, nobody challenges Islam and Quran but in practise, women find it extremely difficult in sharing and digesting the facts.

There are several challenges beside fair treatment among them, managing infight, jealousy, distribution of wealth among children, etc, etc....

By adeel_9298• 7 Oct 2009 11:13
adeel_9298

Islam is the only religion that encourages to marry only 1.

Islam is the only religion that puts an upper limit on polygamy which is 4, but with a condition if the man can be just with all his wives.

It is almost impossible for a human to be just with more than one. Even a mother can't be just with all her children !!! Obviously one of them will be her personal favorite :)

So the point is ... Islam discourages polygamy .... but doesn't restrict. Now why a person marries more than 1 ... he will be answerable to Allah. So if someone really marries to protect a women (or any other noble cause), Allah will be pleased but if he does it only for lust .... he might be punished ... After all Allah knows everything.

So if you marry more than 1 ... you put yourself into a very difficult test (to be just with all of them) and you will be punished if you fail !!!

ISLAM DISCOURAGES POLYGAMY

Adeel Ali

By Victory_278692• 7 Oct 2009 08:31
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Victory_278692

continue healthy discussion...

Dali, you and I being men, understand better men instinct, biological differences and urge BUT How one could make his first lady understand that there are several instances/circumstances where so many unfortunate females, who needs support from male partners (irrespective whether he is married or unmarried)?

Undoubtedly, nobody challenges Islam and Quran but in practise, women find it extremely difficult in sharing and digesting the facts.

By anonymous• 6 Oct 2009 11:47
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Polygamy is Ok for those who are practising Muslims

“Squander not in the manner of a spendthrift. For wasters are the brothers of the Satan, and the Satan is to his Lord ungrateful”

[Qur’an, 17:26-27]

By Dali• 6 Oct 2009 08:06
Dali

I'm not stretching anything to justify polygamy, our religion Islam already has!

Now if I thought like a woman, I would be against understanding polygamy or mans nature, just like you are, but i'm not, i'm choosing to try to understand the nature of man from a neutral point of view.

You see PM, the thing is we're not discussing polygamy forced on to the unhappy recipients. I hope I'm not bursting you're bubble when I remind you that harps don't play and angels don't sing in prelude to bedroom gymnastics, nor do the vows 'to have and to hold, untill death do us part' hold any guarantee of fidelity or happiness to men or women.

As shown in the video clip this thread is about, this mans wives weren't duped under false pretences since they entered their polygamous marriage willingly.

Yes indeed, many women aren't happy about sharing their husbands, the undisputed fact remains that there are many examples of women who enter polygamy either for practicality or convenience.

What this thread is about and what I am discussing isn't the women who voluntarily enter polygamous marriage, it's simply attempting to understand why men do?

Historical and current, regardless of social background, experience, nationality, creed, race in all their diversity, many men display strong tendencies towards polygamous or bigamous or adulterous behavior at some point in their lives, much more than women do.

I'm looking into why this phenomenon occurs, can we link it to how men are designed emotionally or physically? Drawing from comparisons between the bodies of men and women built for propagation of the human species and since the bodies of women have gestatiatory/nurturing period's, hence men are not physically or instinctually as inconvenienced as women are, then perhaps this is a factor that affects his view and subsequent role when partnering? I discussed this in my previous post..

If there is evidence, then as with many things found in Islam, it too has offered a solution for those who apparently seek one. I don't know why often one expects and looks at the Quran as a book written according to the limited human understanding?

It is a book written divinely about humans and for humans authored by their creator.

NB In the Quran, polygamy in an option for men AND women, taking into practical understanding the nature of man, giving women a fairer solution and reminding man of this balance: The creator understanding the nature of man, in the same Quranic verse reminds him of a balance.

Possibly as a reminder to help curb his instincts or his nature yet at the same time offers the fairest option for those who want it.

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By anonymous• 5 Oct 2009 23:58
anonymous

Lesbians are as old as homosexual men and occur in approximately the same proportions as men.

I love to see people reach and stretch to justify polygyny. If a man can get several women to happily accept it then marry them! :-) I just hate to see it forced upon women and make their lives unhappy, because the overwhelming majority of women do NOT like the idea of sharing their husband -- unless they don't actually love their husband (which I have discovered is quite common in Arab marriages where divorce is a social stigma).

Amazing how well you think like a woman, Dali.... one would almost think you ARE one! :-)

 

 

 

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By Dali• 5 Oct 2009 12:24
Dali

Adeel, Excellent point, i didn't factor Gays into the equation :)

I guess this little fact makes the ratio of women outnumbering men more believable eh?

BlackSea Princess & PM, doesn't the ratio makes more sense now? Or are you going to say there are lesbians too?

I don't think so, in my opinion lesbians even evolved as a result to historic Gayness, I give you Sodom & Gomorrah, The Greeks and Romans. It could be argued that it started with dirty older men wanting young boys, maybe because of mans sexual nature and the reason they didn't choose similarly old ugly men like themselves is because the young boys resemble women, so these men acted on their instinct but in a perverse way.

Again in history it's always the men all over the world with many wives, concubines , harems, mistresses, hardly EVER the other way round.

Lets face it, its mans nature well documented in history the way his body is built in comparison to a woman. So when men choose this route, polygamy is the fairest to women.

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By Dali• 5 Oct 2009 12:23
Dali

Arien...I know that no woman wants to hear this naturally, if i were one i'd hate the idea. Were not speaking about happiness, just taking a critical look at why things are the way they are by comparing how men differ from women in nature as listed above. NO one likes it but it does make sense

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By Dali• 5 Oct 2009 11:56
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Victory interesting read you posted here, I bet men all over the world are rejoicing at the finings ;)

Basically if a man follows his nature according to the way he's designed then polygamy is the safest and fairest route to ensure womens rights.

Legally speaking, Polygamy the best of a worse case scenario for women when men either cheat with a mistress in the West or practice bigamy as they have been doing in the West.

Theoretically pOlygamy ought to be practiced in response to certain conditions such as war etc.

However it wasn't just introduced as a solution for these conditions, in order to be one Man had to be created a certain way regardless if the situration arrises or not, which is clearly evident that men all over the world go for an extra side dish.

Im discussing the universtal reasons, because it's certainly NOT a coincedence, not if it's right or wrong.

According to ratio in India where men outnumber women, so the Indian women ought to be happy, yes? Then why do the indian males practice bigamy?!

Its The nature of man, lets try to understand it :)

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By Arien• 5 Oct 2009 10:00
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Arien

Whatevr the books reads...religions preach.

No wife in her normal sense would be happy if her hubby marrys another woman.period.

Dont lie.

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By Victory_278692• 5 Oct 2009 09:49
Victory_278692

POLYGAMY / BIGAMY discussed in detail;

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/408861?page=1

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/432256?page=1

By adeel_9298• 4 Oct 2009 10:43
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adeel_9298

It is possible with so many Gays evolving :)

I think if we separate Gays from men and women ... we will have 55% Women, 30% Gays and 15% Men :D

Adeel Ali

By Dali• 2 Oct 2009 18:31
Dali

Victory thanks for your input, i'll read it and comment soon

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By Dali• 2 Oct 2009 18:30
Dali

BP, Wet or Dry. What about the other issues, the nature of man, they way he is designed, male patterns , logic?

Everything i mentioned in my lengthy posts, please don't just focus on the ratio.

I know it's disturbing for women as it shatters the foundations they build relations on, but it's worth some thought. There are many one woman men in the world, myself included, but the majority are not, regardless of nationality, color or religion, these is definetly a trend. Don't you think that instead of sweeping these facts under the rug, shouldn't discussing them and understanding them be better?

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By BlackSea Princess• 2 Oct 2009 15:57
BlackSea Princess

Dali, that 4 to 1 women to men ratio, coming soon in the glorious future, sounds a little like a male wet dream to me. On top of it being completely unsupported by any sort of scientific evidence.

By Dali• 1 Oct 2009 17:23
Dali

Eco-savy LOL you left everything I said and focused on my signature? :-p

I thought I struck some valid points but we never discuss the nature of man because it's actually taboo and goes against everything that we've been programmed into believing is right. One man to one woman, is it Natural or is it social...I wonder :)

Disclaimer! I'm not trying to find an excuse to take an extra wife. Im in the 'comfort zone' and probably surpressed my nature a long time back, which is known to people as love.

In the Quran which is arguably the most scientifically accurate Holy book, it says MAWADA WA RAHMA - respect/affection & mercy - between man and woman, it didnt say HUB and HABIBI -love me tender love me true-*

And when you think about it Love, the emotion is really culmination of a neatly packaged lust and affability but society has cultivated it into a marketably sound 'love package' But lasting relationships are built on something else once the (love)lust and affability wears off.

The lasting sound ones cater to Respect, Companionship, Dependability, reliability, support, compatibility, appreciation the list is long, and success can be found in the fact that when one of these factors wears down the others remain supporting the overall foundation.

If love is what society makes it out to be then why do people fall in and out of it all the time?

This is a different topic altogether, lets stick with the nature of man, what are you're views :)

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By Victory_278692• 1 Oct 2009 16:41
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Polygamy is secret to longevity

LONDON: Forget long walks and calorie-controlled diets, the sure shot way to live a longer life is: get a second wife.

That's the conclusion of a new research, which has suggested that men from polygamous cultures outlive those from monogamous ones.

After accounting for socioeconomic differences, men aged over 60 from 140 countries that practice polygamy to varying degrees lived on average 12% longer than men from 49 mostly monogamous nations, says Virpi Lummaa, an ecologist at the University of Sheffield, UK.

The latest research might solve a long-standing puzzle in human biology: Why do men live so long? This question only makes sense after asking the same for women, who - unlike nearly all other animals - live long past the menopause.

One answer seems to be a phenomenon called the grandmother effect. For every 10 years a woman survives past the menopause, she gains two additional grandchildren, Lummaa says.

It seems that doting on and spoiling grandchildren aids their survival, as well as furthering some of their grandmother's genes. Men, by contrast, can reproduce well into their 60s and even 70s and 80s, and most researchers assumed this explained their longevity.

But Lummaa and colleague Andy Russell wondered whether other factors explained the long lifespan of men, such as a grandfather effect. To test this possibility, the team analysed church-gathered records for 25,000 Finns from the 18th and 19th centuries.

But the grandfather effect was soon ruled out. Lummaa and Russell next wondered whether the constraints of human physiology explain male longevity. If female survival is the main explanation for male longevity, then monogamous and polygamous men would live for about the same length of time. Instead, it seems that fathering more kids with more wives leads to increased male longevity. Men, then, live long because they're fertile well into their grey years.

Bigamy: An issue of one too many

The Law Commission recently recommended a good way to prevent a married Hindu man from taking another wife: Deeming such a marriage illegal even if he converted to Islam before he wed a second time.

That Law Commission report, 'Preventing Bigamy via Conversion to Islam', essentially highlighted an important and little-known truth - namely that more Hindus than Muslims commit bigamy.

This has been true for more than a quarter of a century. In 1974, a government survey found Muslims to account for 5.6% of all bigamous marriages and upper-caste Hindus accounting for 5.8%. The difference may appear to be small but it is big, in real terms. The 1971 census records 45.3 crore Hindus and six crore Muslims. Allowing for women and children to make up 65% of each group, as many as one crore Hindu men had more than one wife in 1971, compared to 12 lakh Muslim men.

The trend continues, says sociologist Asghar Ali Engineer, head of Mumbai's Institute of Islamic Studies. "The survey was conducted on a large sample in all parts of India and the report wasn't made public. Further, polygamy was higher in South India than in the north, and more so among rich and middle-class Hindus than the poorer sections."

Go back still further – to 1961 – and the census records polygamy to be highest among adivasis, Buddhists, Jains, and Hindus, with Muslims right at the end. Engineer says the law matters only up to a point. "With both survey results coming out after the Hindu Marriage Act was passed in 1955, it shows that bigamy is basically a problem of a male-dominant culture than religion."

Bigamy disadvantages Hindu women more than Muslim, says Chandigarh sociologist Nirmal Sharma. This, because a Hindu man will desert his lawfully wedded wife to live with another, while the multiple wives of Muslim men are entitled to equal legal and social rights. "Closet bigamy in Hindus is worse than open polygamy among Muslims," he says.

Fiza alias Anuradha Bali, who married Haryana's deputy CM after the pair converted to Islam, says, "Our laws were far more liberal in ancient times. Most kings and many of our mythological figures had more than one wife." Though Chand has converted back to Hinduism, Fiza insists she remains his "customary wife while the first one remains the legally-wedded one. There is no way to get out of a dual marriage in spite of a legal ban."

Supreme Court lawyer Praveen Agarwal cautions that Hindu bigamists often go scot free because "the courts can do little until there's a formal complaint." And this is not always possible because in many cases, the two wives don't even know of each other's existence, says Agarwal. He adds that it is relatively easy for a Hindu man to remarry because temples don't hold records. "However, if the matter goes to court, the second marriage is declared null and void."

Take the case of K Suryanarayana, the Indian engineer killed in Afghanistan, who left behind a second wife and daughter. Though she laid claim to compensation from the government, the court ruled in favour of the first wife.

Agarwal suggests that stringent and time-consuming Hindu divorce may force many men to resort to bigamy. "Instead of going in for long-drawn-out and financially debilitating divorce procedures, men simply desert the first wife and marry again."

Engineer says that bigamy is not as rampant among Muslims as believed. The Quran only offers conditional permission for a man to take four wives: in times of war or a crisis that sees women outnumber men. "The 2001 census found 935 females for every 1000 males in India. Among Muslims, it was 930: 1000. So it would be difficult to find even one wife for every man," he says. Engineer says polygamy will never cease to exist. Perhaps it's better to regulate it, he says

By anonymous• 1 Oct 2009 10:32
anonymous

All the children can be nuclear friendly

By Dali• 1 Oct 2009 05:23
Dali

Stone cold, Thanks for your opinion, im not talking about heavenly quotas or even religion.

I know my post is long, but have you read it?

I wasn't trying to bridge any gaps; I am assessing the scientific and psychological reason behind the workings of the nature of man. Comparing East and West and oddly enough the same patterns in men's behavior. Asking why and taking a closer look at the institution of marriage and the possible man made notion of love. Have a read and if you have any opinions regarding my points, please post them..

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By Stone Cold• 1 Oct 2009 04:43
Stone Cold

Why not get it straight from day one that this idea of polygamy and marrying up to 4 wives should have not been legalised in any books. The end result now is that many people are confused trying to bridge up the gap of rights and wrong to this idea, while some takes this heavenly advantages of filling up their qouta.

By Dali• 1 Oct 2009 04:08
Dali

Everything I wrote above is humor because the clip is funny.

Yes, BlackSea Princesses as you rightfully pointed out, a balance can never be struck in polygamy, Allah says so. Those men, who don't balance in everything, even a kiss mind you, will come on the day judgment dragging half their body in unbalanced justice.

However, did you notice that you drew a very good comparison between Muslim Eastern men and Western men, noting that mostly it's the men who seek new partners and or cheat with mistresses?

I'm actually far from condoning polygamy but does anyone else notice a pattern in male behavior? Again I ask is it a coincidence that God designed men's bodies, millions of sperm cells to one egg a coincedence?

Whose body goes into a pre & post gestation, while the other remains fully active and NON inconvenienced?

Let's also take into account a mothers bonds that are arguably stronger than a fathers bonds and is more hands on rearing the family, which is more evident after breakups; The majority of cases, the mother sacrifices her personal aspirations and happiness for her children while the father goes off gallivanting in a midlife psychedelic swirl.

I'm not talking about if it's fair or right or acceptable or bringing even bringing religion into the mix.

I'm curious about nature and how each of the sexes is designed physically and emotionally different.

Is it then a coincidence that the polygamous allowance is 4-1. Moreover I hope i can find and source the predicted ratio of 4:1 because as uncomfortable as it is to the women readers, surely this can't all be coincidental?

If it is part of mans nature, or what appears to be a response to the call of nature if proven that women outnumber men, then can we say that polygamy can be a solution for those who enter in with a different set of ideals?

Surely if man beckons to the call of nature wouldn't it be cleaner and fairer that he marries rather than plays around or does it with no structure that could forfiet his wife's rights....I didn't say feelings, I said rights.

I notice, it's often perceived or argued that marriage is a man made institution....But when you approach it cohesively, it is indeed a very important yet vital contract.

You need only to look at the odd demand Gays have for a legal marriage contract to realize the importance of a binding contractual marriage is between man and women, AND Gays don't create offspring.

So that goes doubly for marriages that do responds to with every humans natural urge to reproduce children to only see how important a contract is in a natural marriage ; notice I referred to nature & not the man made notion of marriage.

Maybe we can take a step further and say that marriage isn't the source of conflict because it's a binding simple contract of logical commitments.

Maybe love is the issue causing the problems and it is the man made notion that has been crippling the minds of women universally?

"But you said you loved me"...."if you loved me"..."But I love you" do you see where I'm going with this?

It's the impossible Holy Grail to maintain for some, and often has its Disney like foundations get shaken for most.

When you look at that clip you see sad women and you base their sadness on man made ideologies that make a woman dependant on another persons control.

So Can we argue that these women are unhappy because they based their happiness on love and another persons validation, their husband?

Seriously why should a man be the end when a relationship governed by the pull of nature. The fact is IF they appear sad after they entered a polygamous marriage which they did knowingly but got confused along the way and Who's to even say IF they are unhappy? To me they look like they badly need an Oprah makeover, a shopping spree and a LIFE!

Why don't women approach a marriage as a means to an end and never an end itself? If someone argues that they ARE unhappy then it's due to the life sucking barriers of the mental self imposed slavery of being at the whim of a man emotions. Notice the wife he referred to as his buddy seems to get the point and she doesn't look unhappy at all, She looks like she has it all figured out. The others probably cater to the jealousy demons every now then out of boredom but not reason. What they should be doing is taking control of their feelings and subsequently living a more productive pragmatic life while being part of a contract that when you take away the man made frou frou is really just legalized sex with paternal responsibility.

I think when women adopt this mentality that's when they become happy by starting to love & value themselves for a change, more importantly fulfilling aspirations they probably never thought they had.

Ironically this is when they get what they want when the switch occurs and the man voluntarily suppresses his nature and settles into the familiar comfort of the one woman he chooses - call it love if you want, To me I see it as a psychological decision and not the change of a mans nature.

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By anonymous• 1 Oct 2009 01:36
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By BlackSea Princess• 1 Oct 2009 01:16
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The wives 'didn't look so happy'? I wonder why, when the only thing that the man had to say about them is that they were all jealous. And then went and said how one of them is sooooo much better than the rest. One of the few restrictions that actually exists in the Qur'an on this - treat them all equally - is pretty much impossible anyway, which buddy proves spectacularly.

Polygamous marriages have been on the rise in Egypt (and a few other places). And the way they often play out strikes me as very similar to what goes on in Western countries - middle aged men take significantly younger wives - except here they are second wives, while there they are mistresses (or consecutive wives). And while cheating husbands is not so good for kids and families, unhappy mothers who are in a constant tug of war for the affections of one man is far from grand either.

By Dali• 1 Oct 2009 00:39
Dali

He's Da Maaaaan and he obviously can lol

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By anonymous• 1 Oct 2009 00:33
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But I remember being struck by the fact that some of his wives didn't look that happy. :-P

Frankly, I was a bit surprised he found even 2 women willing to marry him, much less 4. I figured it has to do with so many Egyptian men working in the Gulf and there not being enough to go around there. lol

 

 

 

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By Dali• 1 Oct 2009 00:30
Dali

lol PM, I was waiting for that so I won't argue with the numbers you provided, but I have read somewhere that in the year 2010 that ratio will happen, I just recal thinking how odd a coincedence is that. I can't recal the country but I will dig it up inshallah. I think the clip is priceless though. Humanity in it's rawest form.

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By anonymous• 30 Sep 2009 19:24
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What statistics are you referring to???

According to the CIA Factbook the sex ratio is:

at birth: 1.07 male(s)/female

under 15 years: 1.06 male(s)/female

15-64 years: 1.02 male(s)/female

65 years and over: 0.78 male(s)/female

total population: 1.01 male(s)/female (2009 est.)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/xx.html

So only in the over 65 age group do women outnumber men; and then it is only a 1:.78 ratio. BTW, nobody is marrying 65+ women as 2nd, 3rd or 4th wives -- lol

 

 

 

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

By anonymous• 30 Sep 2009 19:15
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By messymiss• 30 Sep 2009 19:08
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no there is!.....i think its different in diff sections(like maliki,hanbali,hanafi,or shafi)

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By anonymous• 30 Sep 2009 19:02
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There is no requirement for a man taking a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th wife other than he be fair between them with regards to time and money. He does NOT have to have permission of his current wife, nor does she have to be ill or sterile. This is a common misconception among Muslims to make polygyny more palatable I assume.

 

 

 

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

By Dracula• 30 Sep 2009 17:46
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...and remember in the beginning there was one man and one woman

"And leg will be joined with another leg" [Qur'an 75:29]

By Dali• 30 Sep 2009 17:44
Dali

Yes but international statistics say women out number men four to one.

Coincedence?

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By theqataristallion• 30 Sep 2009 17:29
theqataristallion

I never said it was stated in the Quran or the Sunnah...but this is the justification behind it. Maybe you should read carefully.

By Bluecrash• 30 Sep 2009 12:53
Bluecrash

eco-savvy- A new tag for qata. wow nice to hear that!

By Pajju• 30 Sep 2009 12:50
Pajju

Eco-savvy said qataris from where did you get this fatwa ... thats why mod changed :)

By anonymous• 30 Sep 2009 12:37
anonymous

why is it changing to spamis whatever

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By anonymous• 30 Sep 2009 12:01
anonymous

strange words

By anonymous• 30 Sep 2009 11:59
anonymous

again it has changed to sapmistattion

By anonymous• 30 Sep 2009 11:58
anonymous

I just typed theqataristallion

By anonymous• 30 Sep 2009 11:57
anonymous

quote

the man has to have the permission of the first wife

unquote

By Victory_278692• 30 Sep 2009 11:44
Rating: 2/5
Victory_278692

Salayum....

By ZYJ• 30 Sep 2009 11:35
Rating: 4/5
ZYJ

messymiss said better than cheatin on ur ...

better than cheatin on ur wife & spoilin the future of ur kids!

u got that right

By umm-salayum• 28 Sep 2009 10:26
Rating: 5/5
umm-salayum

well birdie, if the man can not "make" babies , she can divorce him and remarry somebody who can !

Also if the man dies, no problem she can just remarry .

If the women has marital problems , she can get a divorce and remarry .

of course she can NOT marry more then one man.

And yes nobody ever said it's an easy thing to do after all.

The man HAS to be just , with time and money ! And of course the woman are naturally jealous.so the man has to be wise and deal with it in a kind manner.

In the video that wasn't the best example , but I guess it works for him for better or worse

By the-birdie• 28 Sep 2009 10:20
Rating: 3/5
the-birdie

"if the first wife dies, is ill, or cannot bear him children. In addition, the man has to have the permission of the first wife, ..."

what about a wife too think so ?

if the husband dies, ill, cannot have children ......

can she marry ?

just because jealousy of her husband, can she remarry ?

By umm-salayum• 28 Sep 2009 10:06
Rating: 4/5
umm-salayum

Yes, masha allah he is the MAN!!! the video was kinda funny, with all the wives sitting there and he didn't say much of anything!

As for the statement:

....if the first wife dies, is ill, or cannot bear him children. In addition, the man has to have the permission of the first wife, ...

How did you come up with that?! It is NOT stated in the Quran nor the sunnah.

It is a false and incorrect statement!

It may be one of the reasons to marry another wife , but not a condition for doing so!

Also there are many fatwas sying the man can marry again without even letting the first wife know he will marry again, BUT that is not recommended to do so , it would be of kindness to inform the first wife.

By messymiss• 28 Sep 2009 05:27
Rating: 5/5
messymiss

better than cheatin on ur wife & spoilin the future of ur kids!

Pay peanuts & you get Monkeys

By theqataristallion• 28 Sep 2009 01:05
Rating: 5/5
theqataristallion

Yes, I admit it is a bit extreme. However, in Islam, premarital sex is not allowed. In addition, the correct interpretation in the Quran is that a man is allowed a second or third wife if the first wife dies, is ill, or cannot bear him children. In addition, the man has to have the permission of the first wife, and he must establish a covenant with himself and with God that he will treat them equally with respect and love them equally. These days though, here are a lot of Muslims who misunderstand the verse, to mean that "hey, I can have four wives". This however, is very uncommon and most men choose their one beloved spouse for the rest of their lives For every 500 Muslims men who get married, about one or two decide to marry a second time. So its not that common. I am never going to do it, bc I know that I will only love one girl, and spend the rest of my life with her alone.

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