Philippines pageant winner loses title
The Philippines’ entry for the Miss Universe beauty pageant has been disqualified after local organisers discovered she was born overseas and out of wedlock, a contest official said yesterday.
Maria Venus Raj, 21, was set to represent her country in August and begin charity work after winning the Miss Philippines-Universe competition early this month.
But the journalism graduate was stripped of her title on Monday after the foundation that runs the local competition discovered SHE HAD BEEN BORN IN QATAR TO AN INDIAN MAN WHO WAS NOT MARRIED TO HER FILIPINA MOTHER.
Her birth certificate stated she was born in the Philippines to married Filipinos.
“We found out about the inconsistencies after the coronation night,” Lilia Ambay, of Miss Philippines-Universe Charity Incorporated, said.
She was stripped of her position not due to citizenship issues but because her birth certificate contained false information, Ambay said.
A runner-up will replace Raj in the Miss Universe contest, Ambay added.
Miss Philippines is a highly prestigious title and winners often go on to lucrative modelling or showbiz careers.
@ Matet,so have you & mathboy hooked up or are you the same person?...just curious *WINK*!!!
@ prettyme,the article specifically states that she was born to an Indian father & Filipina mother out of wedlock IN QATAR & the points i raised are based on what i've come across on the same issue IN QATAR.
My Mum is a social worker here in Qatar & ever so often she counsels distraught Indian wives,sometimes with young kids who don't know what to do & where to turn after their idiotic husbands have left them for their Filipina secretaries or colleagues here IN QATAR,so like i said,my observations are based on real life experiences of families coming apart because of cheating Indian men & their Filipina girlfriends who despite knowing they're married & have children have no care whatsover in destroying their marriages,so like i said prettyme,my reply is based on real life experiences RIGHT HERE IN QATAR,now if you would be so kind as to explain to me how my reply was out of topic "if you please"...
@ Matet,someone posted a thread on multiple id's on QL,did you check it out? *wink*!!!..btw,is that the receipe you use?...that explains a lot!!!
@ somewherndmiddle,i think what you're trying to say is that you would have needed to devote that much analytical thinking to write that mate,i just wrote it off the top of my head based on my observations here, while having my cup of tea before going to work,so thanks for the concern,but really it took no effort @ all!!!
@ plushed: i'm still waiting for garandene's "questions". i have an answer ready for him! ;-)
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ehhehe..maybe..tomorrow we can check it not today..
if true or not..50/50
This is an April Fool's joke, guys.
Guys, v shld feel sorry for the girl who has lost the crown after much effort and hard work..I wld blame the peagent committee at fault..Poor girl is just a victim..
haha. i've been busy these days.. i saw the invitations for tuesday coffee meet .. yesterday. :(
how was it? if only i had seen it sooner. :P
"I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good, either."
plushed well observed.. Was she Eriterian by any chance?
And where have you been hiding since the last coffee meetup?
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plushed, they missed that part i guess.. :P
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She was stripped of her position not due to citizenship issues but because her birth certificate contained false information.
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anybody tried to read and UNDERSTAND the article?
@garandene - what you're "asking" here is totally out of topic. so if you please... make another thread for your "questions" .. and i'll try to answer there :)
"I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good, either."
the news is all over newspaper today & I don't think the journalist who wrote this consider the article a petty topic?
As a Filipino, and for a simple reason, I still think the organizers should have verified this before the poor lady was crowned. Imagined!
it really is april fool's day! imagine one QLer has to devote so much analytical thinking to such a petty topic tsk!
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gadarene,
i won't blame what mathboy did to your brain,
if it still deserve to be called a brain.
try to drink 10ml of vinegar mix with 1 ltr.of dettol and maybe it will come back to normal.
"false information" after they declared her as a winner.
It is a shame that being born out of wedlock discriminate her and at worst disqualify her to vie for Ms. Universe crown.
I really feel pity for this lady.
"Work with dignity. Love with honesty. Live holy."
Doc jay its a disgrace for everyone not just Philippine. But its true and its happening. Just spread awareness in the society.
we are one country that never stop sending our candidates to any pageant competition. We have no inhibitions to any pre-qualifications of any pageant, so to speak. Most Filipina candidates are bachelor's degree,professionals,smart and I would say, beautiful.
The case of Ms. Venus Raj, is not an isolated case,and while being stripped with a crown,I'd say her case is not that embarrassing compared to the other pageant winner who was involved in drugs case. The decission of the organizers to disqualify her maybe justifiable if she provided false info of her birth certificate but nevertheless, the question of whether she was born Filipina is out of the question.
Most Filipinas who were married or had child with other nationalities produced kids that resemble almost to the father. We Filipinos understand it.
For being not looking beautiful, Qataribull, the pageant doesn't give big deal to it. Although having a pretty face is one of the criteria, being beautiful is different.
I say, only the organizers knew what Ms. Venus Raj declared in her document why she was eventually disqualified.
But, question is, why it took them long to know what was wrong? It could have been detected on the first preliminary rounds of the pageant?
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Today, March 29, 2010, Binibining Pilipinas Charities, Inc. decided, with a heavy heart, to let Binibining Pilipinas-Universe 2010 Maria Venus Raj go, after the organization discovered inconsistencies contained in her birth records, in contrast to her personal account of her birth.
http://www.bbpilipinas.com/sub.php?c=p&b=
these are ALL FILIPINAS.
So can anybody tell me, how to identify the one that is not?
There are also some title holders who was also involved in sex scandals so i agree to Nicaq that her case is not really embarrasing.
Doc jay, not only pinay is doing that.... don't generalize. maybe your just fixing your eyes "only to filipinas" whose companion in the malls are different nationalities. try to look also for other females with different nationalities.,, you can see also Koreans, Lebanese, Chinese and others....
Doc jay, this thread is not intended to bash anyone :P
a lot of pinays doing like that here in qatar,like the mother of that contestant...such a disgrace.
marie_2 , always
I will google Miss Henson
I agree with marais,i dont find her pretty and really deserved for that title,i also like Nicollete Henson,she is really beautiful.
yeah i watched this competition in Philippine channel,sad to say she's not my bet to win the title coz she's not really pretty well it's still ok coz the one who replaced her is more beautiful and also deserving to represent our country,and she's my favourite among the contestants,her name is Helen Nicollete Henson..i love her looks...
Good you're having fun lebaneseMan..,
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funny thread and funny commets :D
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/977917
The same discussion held yesterday...Kindly take a look at the above link..
"...to consider marriage ONCE you have concieveD..." these were your words.:)
And Gadarene, of course you may CONSIDER BEFORE concieving... but people were given the knowledge to CHOOSE and DECIDE for themselves :)
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marie_2 who could she be blamming.
I do advice dear expats to consider marriage once you have conceived. First to be out of trouble if you are planning to stay in Qatar. Secondly the new born will have a legal father.
I think its not good for the new born to lose opportunities in beauty peagents.
@ marie_2,erm excuse my ignorance but shouldn't marriage be considered BEFORE conceiving or even thinking of it???...
Perhaps her mom and biological father?
Dear expatriates, you may consider marriage only if you are ready for the pros and cons that it may bring and not because you are bearing a fetus.
(Sorry QatariBull :))
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yup,still need one mate...so do you have one or not?...
with that statement you just posted you still need explanation gadarene?
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@ somwerndmiddle,no actually i don't mate,which is why i asked if someone who does would care to explain it to me right?...
I'm sure she's blaming somebody right now. :(
Cheer up ms Raj :).
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wow gadarene you seem to have all the "right info"
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I can't stop thinking how ironic it is that SO MUCH emphasis is placed on "legal" parentage in the Philipines & yet,such a LARGE number of Filipinos are single parents,have children born out of wedlock. In fact someone even told me it's considered "good luck" to have a child out of wedlock amongst Filipinos,don't how much truth there is to that statement though,anyways,so this young lady is one of what,hundreds,maybe thousands of kids born to Filipino mothers in the middle east out of wedlock,in all likelihood,because that is usually the case,the Filipina mother is working hard in the middle east to support her loser husband & possibly children from him back home,meets expat guy while in the middle east & they're in a "relationship",& how often does that result in a pregnancy? seeing as birth control or an abortion is not an option for Filipinos,in keeping with their "strict adherence" to the Catholic faith...so this young lady is one of those many hundreds or thousands of kids born out of wedlock to Filipina mothers & expat fathers here in the mid-east,what's the big deal?...it's just a LOT of irony & i don't get it...somebody care to explain?...
Nothing comes up on google for that. lol
She looks like Kilowatti Sukarnopoutri!
Surprisingly nobody asked me for the link.
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=352486&version=1&template_id=45&parent_id=25
Edifis now the picture is getting clear. Just born in manger or conceived also
I think I should change the title of my post "Stable boy in North West Doha and Philipina" How does that sound.
she was disqualified because her birth certificate contained false information...
Edifis her pictures on the internet are not that eye catching. Try it up on google
Qataribull...the opening line of your post says that she has been disqualified after local organisers discovered she was born overseas. So looks like she was not born in Philippines.
The capitalised words in your post also reads ...SHE HAD BEEN BORN IN QATAR TO AN INDIAN MAN WHO WAS NOT MARRIED TO HER FILIPINA MOTHER.
As for the Indian Man...better he run now...:)
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She Not Pretty?
Then maybe the judges were skew eyed and had blurry vision!
She was born in a manger belonging to the Arabian Horses located somewhere in North West Doha. Her father was the stable boy there.
She is not that pretty. I have seen her a lot. We do have more pretty Philippines in Qatar. Why dont they go and contest.
Now dont ask me to name them on QL. lol
May be she conceived in Qatar and then went to Philippines to deliver.
happygolucky may be once authorities will know now they will start looking for this indian now. lol
How could she give birth without being married in Qatar...I read, that's a big No No here.
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This thread is not intended for Qatar or Philippines bashing. (Mentioning just in case)
these titillating shows also require females to be coming from proper families???