Pakistan honour crime disgusts me

People just need to realise one thing, there is no honour in killing..

It's sad. It's a shame to see people killing each other over something like this.

yes, UKengg hate, revenge, honor everything is part of this crime. Obviously the murderers went mad knowing well somewhere about their fate...

weather honour killing or street killing the only thing we have to follow strict law which should be for everyone there should be punishment for all

Why do they kill in the name of Honour or is just hate that drives one to commit these crimes in the name of Honour. Why don't they reflect that taking life of another is no way an honour but a cowardess act.

Mentality of these people and the customs need to change otherwise these crimes that happen on a daily basis in this part of the word wil be just brushed under the carpet.

We get to know about this unfortunately family. But I am sure there are hundred of these kind of killing happening in this part of the world on a daily basis.

xiuli76...??;)

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its a bitter fact and I don't think that we can completely abolish honour killing in Pakistan and sub-continent.

well this is duty of police to protect all the people in the country but as we are really in bad time lacking of rule and law but as it is happened in every society there is a bad time and there is good time. we are in bad time things going worse in Pakistan people are suffering there but i hope there will be a good turn and we will see law and rule in our country.

InshAllah

honour killing is very common where the tribal laws trump the local laws. you can find that in the middle east, pakistan and India

Inna lillahi wa Innailaihi rajioon..Even though it may seem like wishful thinking I hope and pray the killers are caught, prosecuted and get what they deserve. Its sickening really that in todays day and age young people too still carry out such evil practices of their ancestors! Will it ever end? Can there ever be a deterrent for such evildoers to give up their atrocious praxis? Allahu'alim..right now it seems so unlikely =(

Hope the murders could be punished

Hey, I'm not trying to patronise.

I didn't know people were only entitled to have opinions and comment on their own small patch of Earth. In a globalised world that's a rather outmoded concept.

What happens on the streets of Lahore and Karachi effects what happens on the streets of Bradford and Leicester - and visa versa.

hafthab

i assume that U have putted forward ur letter to the authorities for deputation ur services to clean mess in Pakistan.

Pakistanis respects your right to hold certain beliefs; but that respect doesn't extend to those beliefs' contents.

so let Us worry about our problems, and yeah we are relatively a young country, and nation building is still in progress, right now we have different priorities including what you said. but u shud appreciate the fact that murder and crime rate is still relatively lower in our cities as compared to other big metropolitans.

its just not politics i was talkin about i was talkin abt corruption also,if corruption was not involved how did the killers escape, how did they get bail itself. It was all because of the corrupt officers and authorities in the goverment who has got the guts and courage to do all theese corrupt activities being in power because they are under the influence of the corrupt political leaders of the country who is also representing the goverment of that country,which is also promoting terrorism and crime,.if such criminal acts have to be controlled or prevented, we will have to pluck it out from the root itself and the corrupt politics is the root here (so just punishing the killers alone is not enough here we will have to start thinking about stopping those who encourage them to do such things) for example in this particular incidents itself apart from killing those innnocent people the killers and their family is even threatning the villagers also, now that means they have got power to suppress a mass, for that now they need power how come they get the power which ususally only a goverment has got so that show how influencial they are in the goverment perhaps theese were the people who must have been able to throw money to those leaders at the time of their election campains so that once they come in power theese guys can commit crimes like this and get away or escape with minimum punishments

I agree a nation should not be generalised like that - I literally work with hundreds of Pakistanis each day here, and I find them to be fine people.

Having said that, however, Pakistan has to realise it does have a particular problem with this phenomenon and must strive to eradicate it; easier said then done I realise.

truely sad...and may be its one of cases in hundereds that got projection, but there are many places in pakistan, where media cant even approach.

These incidents disgusts me, like all sick incidents around the world disgust me in same way....but the thing that disgust me the most is that every incident is reason to generalize the nation of 180 million.

good work adey, keep enlightening us!!

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and another thing that disgust me.... is the fact western world knows more about us, then we do....yeah the pakistanis,,,the terrorists :)

wk

we will never feel you left alone ;)

Wow I thought we are the only ones still stuck with this practice..

adey

i'm glad to see haftab and his fellows, knowing their thoughts may help Pakistani's to improve their system.

or terrorism, or pakistani people, or the country. This is about 3 innocent individuals murdered due to the culture of honour. Sure it happens alot in Pakistan but also in many other places.

This is about justice and educating peole against this crazy practice.

Leave the politics please. We are talking about honour killings here.. So stick to the topic..

pakistan is really F***ed up , the country need to educate the locals more and improve the judiciary system more, all this could be done only if the people are educated more and they start electing the leaders who are less corrupt( now what i mean by less corrupt is most or atleast few of the leaders in a democratic country will be corrupt because they look forward to fill up their own bank accounts before their term ends, but that dosent mean they will have to destruct their own country so much by being so corrupt atleast do something for the coutry ).whereas in pakistan i,belive most of the leaders are just interested in their own well being. but they dosent think by making all theese unlawful wealth they are not securing their family well but instead they are throwing them into more dangerous situation by making the law and order more week , moreover pakistan should start thinking about developing their own country instead of promoting terrorism and crime like this. by saying all theese things i dont mean to hurt any pakistanis but even i would like to see atleast someday your country will be praised by international community all around the world. because the country can really help bring peace in this world by not promoting terrorism and crime and that will further stop morons like George w bush to start an war in any nation by giving some loussy excuse . pakistan share the same tradition and culture and history that indians do, if india can come so far even pakistan can now i dont mean india is perfect in everything but loopholes can happen in any country but it all lies in the effort and the unity among the people of that country to overcome it by making its neighbours more friendly

Nothing in this article surprises me.

Ok..

"but police all over the world is same"

Sorry ingeniero but the answer to that statement is an emphatic No - only in some places.

Didn't really understand your statement about Taliban controlled places - are you suggesting all is bright, rosy and peaceful in those areas? If not I apologise, but anyway this is not a time to discuss geopolitical issues - it's just a horrendous crime.

Sir.. would u like to mention that at which places taliban have control???

else i feel the same as all of you.. its pretty bad.. but police all over the world is same.. its not only in pakistan.. but still i wish that the responsible should be arrested and hang to death..

I am sure that Interpol, Scotland Yard and the Pakistani police can apprehend the culprits. I hope the British government can exert enough pressure.

All very valid points.

I wouldn't object to a few special air service being drafted in to help out the Pakistani authorities. I'm sure they can accommodate that considering the cultural links, history and economic aid between the two countries.

Well if they're on the run in Pakistan,seems highly unlikely they'll get caught...i mean,the country is literally falling apart,economy is in the pits,they're caught between the Americans & the Taliban who have full control over certain parts of the country...surely the Govt. is going to say they have more important things to do than commit time & resources looking for some "honour killers"...anyways this probably happens like once every week or something out there if not more often...just that the victim this time happened to be a British citizen...well good luck to her family catching he killers is all i can say...

Atrocious act! They deserve the maximum punishment.

You've said what I would have.

They need to be made an example of. However, the corrupt police and judiciary in Pakistan will probably allow them to go free.

They are portraying themselves as heroes when they are pure murderers..

Pakistan police appear to have let them escape - there is talk of corruption. The Palimentary debate, I believe, is intended to put pressure on the Pakistani authorities to bring these scum to justice.

me too