Negativism

Just saw this old post of mine after a long long spell.

Thank you Fathima :-)))) have a wonderful weekend!

Mashallah..that's great news.Wish you a prosperous career ahead...May God guide you to gaining sucess in this world and the next!

Sorry.. Lolipops :O)

Brit - lolipos???? LOL!!!

Edifis - all I need is toothpicks to keep my eyes open. Hubby doesn't know how I can fit a job into my daily schedule - but my point is turning any leftover 'negativity' inside me into tired and positive cells ;)

I like lolipos. So much to do with them :O)

Congrats Aluminum! New Job....Where the party? Only Lolly not enough now. I need iced lollies and big Hafla.

I called a old girlfriend who would call me her Dark Chocolate Bounty Bar.  I called her my Kit Kathrine. 

Nope, not pushing your luck adey! Tell you what, you can have two. I signed my contract for my new job today and am in a great mood! :-)

I wonder where everybody else is. Did they all get their lollies and giant chocolate bars and did a runner? ;-P

will do for me.........or am I pushing my luck now?:)

Fair contribution to the topic, in line with the title adey :)

May I offer you a kitkat instead? It's always nice to 'have a break' ;)

I'm not a great fan of lollipops..........you could say I hold them in a negative light, :P

Brit - group hug reminds me of the teletubbies *shudder* lol!!!

Segmund - I am very positive UNLESS somebody steps over the line. I can dish out AND take criticism. But I HATE unfair treatment, abuse and injustice. I wish for this happy topic to continue and am willing to spend my pocketmoney on loads of lollipops!!! ;-)

GROUP HUUUUUUUUG!!!!! ;-))))

Fathima and Tinks - you both made my evening xoxox

Good to see some positivism here.

Thank you,habibthy. And certainly you are as loved and appreciated here xoxHere's to a more positive turn to a thread on negativism!

Is it time for a group hug ?

Tinks and Fathima - with you two around it is well worth staying ;) xxx

Glad to hear that Alumnar..Alhamdullilah. In this case at least leeches are good =D

Lollies all around XXXXXXL size for all the lovely people on this topic :))) You all deserve them as you are honest and goodhearted - and you all know who you are!!!

Tinks - I ain't going anywhere. I'm like a leech lol!!! :))))

Alumnar, ok point taken...chilling as we speak!...have a good one! :)...

very true.in that case hope Alumnar has the XXL kind..Like giant Chupa Chups!

But if its one in chocolate then I want...pretty please!

Lollipop lady it is! :-)

Good afternoon Chum ;) sorry but just got home - out since 6am yikesssz!!!

Hello tinker :)))

Is it peaceful around here today? Soooooo glad about that :-)))

Alumnar may I call you lollipop lady? Good morning Chum!

@Alumnar- can i have a lolly too? chocolate flavor :P :)

Am tucked up in bed edifis - ain't budging!

OK....I am coming to Messaid.

Karma flor, Karma!!! It always gets them sooner or later.

UK I meant lolly - cola flavour ;)

Yes Padre the realisation some times comes at a great cost. But better realise and see the true picture of the people who they really are rather than keep on smiling back at their fake and deceptive smiles.

if you take a stand and it happens to contradict theirs, you will be badmouth as many insulting words they can throw to you. And they even deny saying such! Pathetic people!

Lolly you mean Dolly's sister?

but at least you realized who the real people are!

In Mesaeed edifis - kept safe for when I meet you ;)

Exactly Padre Flor, It also who are close to you that hurt you the most, your so called own..:)

Where is the lolly?

+1=10000 Points on QL! I feel like an old boy now.

Well done edifis - here is your reward lolly ;)

I am not! Precisely many misread me! When I lost my first ID for unjustified reason, you will know what I mean as close to the power is?

There are positive people and there are negative people they are people who use other people and they are people who get used by others.Now all this exists, all we have to do is to realise this and ensure that we guard ourselves from the worse!

We don't guard ourselves UK. We stand up and tell them in their faces what we think. We do not care if it affects a specific circle of people because anybody is better off without a bullie and taker only. It is part of our character to do that - or else how are people supposed to understand that, unless they change, they will stand alone? By keeping feeding their ego all that happens is that the bullie thinks it is right to continue being the same way. Big NO for me!!!

as long as they don't use abusive words and insult any Qler!

OK.

you said something similar....but......everyone needs their negative side, it's part of who we are. I don't suscribe to the veiw that there are wholly negative people and wholly positive people. We are a mix and we require both within ourselves to appreciate life.

It is good to post positive criticism as long as it not a direct or indirect attack on fellow QLer.

Adey....that's exactly what I said earlier in my post.

Gadarene, you do constructive criticism and state opinions. You do not attack a specific poster over and over again! Chill ok? ;-) lol you are fiery!!!

so that you can differentiate between the two.If there were no negatives how can you appreciate the positives?You only appreciate the rising sun after the darkest night, the joys of spring after the deepest winter.Both have their place.

gadarene...or may be you did not take head on those who can make you vanish (I mean your nick).... :)

@ Alumnar,Beg to differ a bit on this one...i don't know ANY of the Mods,i'm not a part of ANY group or 'mafia' on QL,my posts are often perceived as "negative about Qatar",(i like to call it having an opinion or telling it like it is but that's just me!) but i have not faced any issues yet...might have something to do with the fact that i state my point clearly,back it up with reasons, don't abuse or insult anyone UNLESS they do it first! & even then,strictly no F words or other equivalents...so maybe it's just me but i would like to state for the record that if this forum were ONLY about 'who one knows',i'd have been booted a LONG time ago...

One thing I know and have learnt here is that never to upset anyone, cos this place is just too small to upset people and think you can get away with it. 

Oh so now you are flor? Is that what you mean?

If we go by the meaning of the title, negativism just means being pessimistic or being over cautious of the consequenses etc. What's wrong with that?? Disagreeing with someone is perfectly acceptable.

Personal attack or insulting someone is not exactly negativism.

you need to be a close friend!  Lol! I was not before!

Welcome back to Qatar UKeng!

Brit - I'm with you on that one. BUT no more chances, sorry. I am done. I will not forgive OR forget unless a dear friend of mine (and you all know who she is) gets reinstated or the other culprit on the marriage topic gets banned too. As easy as that. I want the Mods to show there are no double standards in this Forum and that befriending a Mod changes NOTHING on QL!!!

Jayca - Exactly,It's all about people's disposition.

You will see negativity if you see or take it that way ;) But if people thinks positively, he/she will not see any ugliness on others :)Sometimes it also depends on how people take it :) If i am receiving negativity around me, i dont need to take it on a negative manner too.,i take it positively :) 

unless some people here stop using abusive and very bad words, the board will remain dirty. ANd full of negativism!

UK - Well we are different that's why we are called individuals in the first place. You dont have to act like a father. I never believe the doctrine which states that Age brings wisdom.

Anyway.. Let's have a new beginning on QL..

Lets be more tolerant and understanding of each other. Let's argue to our heart's content without it turning to abuse and pettiness :O)

only caring for ourselves, is it the same as like this:You are working in a company that pays you, right?  But you don't owe anything to the company because you are paid for what you are doing, right again (?).  So you are open to criticize this company because you don't owe them ANYTHING, right?IS THAT RIGHT?

Ps kiddo grow up ! Like Alumnar said it easily said than done!

UK - Dont have to care about yourself alone.Even monkeys care for the other animals in the jungle. I care for people who deserve it even cared for those who don't but never will I care about people who are trying to bring me down.I love myself enough & those who are depending on me to let them. That's why negativity will never have a chance..:).

Wishing Karma for others is negativity. Only proves the bitterness.

Padre/Brit if we only cared for ourselves what difference is there between us and animals? :)

UK - Living your life the way you want to doesnt mean you have to forget caring about others. Of course you have to consider but if you know that it's the right thing to do & that will make you happy then why not give it a go? Nobody wants to be stucked somewhere pointless and end up unhappy. It's all about your disposition in life and the way u think. I always choose to be happy and i dont let anybody's bitterness and negativity ruin my day. Anyway,we have the freewill to choose what we really want in our lives. What's really wrong with some people is they don't know how to let go of the things that are out of their control and be happy for others..

UK -

Living your life the way you want to doesnt mean you have to forget caring about others. Of course you have to consider but if you know that it's the right thing to do & that will make you happy then why not give it a go? Nobody wants to be stucked somewhere pointless and end up unhappy. It's all about your disposition in life and the way u think. I always choose to be happy and i dont let anybody's bitterness and negativity ruin my day. Anyway,we have the freewill to choose what we really want in our lives. What's really wrong with some people is they don't know how to let go of the things that are out of their control and be happy for others..

Its not about not caring for others, but believing that you are superior :O( 

about that guy who equate NAndo's as a Qatari restaurant?  He is a VERY negative guy, indeed!

Those who just live for just themselves are the ones who just waste this life .:)

Alumnar right said, some people need to grow up to the reality of life is much more uglier than the words said. Those who don't care about others are always the ones who will be the losers in the end!

Alumnar - Exactly, I let people live the way they want to. I have enough things to worry about my life than waste my time sticking my nose to other people's business. I always believe that it's me who should be thinking about my life and how to make myself happy and if others want to think about my life too,then they are welcome. If they want to stick their nose in my bizzo then let my life be their entertainment,they watch it while i live it. As long as I'm not stepping onto someone,I give it a go especially if it makes me happy..:)

sometimes rebirth is the option... which actually isnt.

PS, that is sometimes easier to do then said.

Now I see how the signs were there all along, but I thought that some people deserve a chance due to frustrations which attack us all once in a while. In the end it is sad to see that good people are booted due to absolute losers and bullies. On top of it all they are hated anyway but seem to think they are something special!!!

I say live and let live. Move on!!! Stick your noses into your own business and STOP giving your 2 cents on everything. Or better: GET A LIFE!!!

I never really let myself be disturbed with whatever people say about me. Whatever I do,it's all about my happiness not theirs. If im going to live the way they want me to,then i will never be happy. I dont let negativity of other people made me miss to savor the beauty of life.So whenever there are false attacks against me,i dont really exert any effort on them bec.i love myself & i know who I am.

Agree with mafia...I however prefer to use 'çoterie'....:)

Agree .. Fairness for all !

True brit but how do they get away with it? Double standards or what??? A run-in between 3 posters, one gets booted and 2 are allowed to stay and continue as if nothing happened? It makes me sick! That's why I removed myself from every group I belonged to. It's like a mafia - about who you know and not what you say. Enough of double standards - be fair!!!

And before you all ask - I know both parties involved personally.

is being nice to people so difficult now :(

There will always be a tiny few on QL who believe they are God's gift to the world and everything they say is gospel.The thing is to recognise this and not feel antagonised by them.

Flexi, the case I am actually referring to is not an exception. The 'bully' has carried on for too long. I know what I am talking about and so do MANY other posters. S_isale - oh yes my friend! Segmund - we both know, right? Thank you too :)

well said Flexi, could'nt have put it better myself!!

Alumnar, your words must have struck a nerve for at lesat some of the posters here

Alumnar, you given such a sweet voice to the thoughts of my heart. Thank you.flexi, perhaps.

I don't understand the need of this thread. Truly speaking, I don't see 'negativism' as a problem here on QL. Most of the regular QLers know exactly how to continue a discussion and when and how to opt out. Opinions might and does differ in a discussion however the thing you are talking about is not a norm but could be an exception. (Am I really out of touch??? wondering...)

There are many here!

Negativity and provocative attacks have become the norm with some posters on this Forum. I believe their small minds and low esteem have a lot to answer for. They tend to be obsessed with their own 'fake perfection' and are eternally unhappy and negative towards anything. Those bitter people have to feel happy by attacking others indirectly through a Forum. They are 'online bullies' hiding behind a screen. I pity them - their friends 'hang around' for a while and they don't realize how much they are disliked and criticized behind their backs. Their friends put up with them for the sake of 'keeping peace' and are always glad to see the back of those people.

They will never learn though. They go through life being eternally unhappy - and that is the biggest punishment they can get as it is self-inflicted.

People should just agree to disagree and use constructive criticism. That way they would show manners, politeness and keep the peace. But unfortunately that is just too hard for some to remember...

If it weren't for negative people, how else can people like me stay positive.  It's like Ying Yang.  Good and Evil.  Right and Wrong.  Positive and negative help balance the world.  Keeps positive people thinking.  Imagine... each time someone negative says something can't be done... it's a positive person that makes it happen.

Societies have evolved due to both, virtues and vices, in people. Everything good would not find ourselves where we are today..

You do seem to have a point, lol.

The word 'negativism' can be found in the dictionary. If you look up the dic you will find it means the same thing as 'negativity'.

IMHO: It is very important to have a few bad people in this world (People with rotten morals, people with a lot of bitterness, skepticism & thankless people). In other words 'negative people'...It is good to have them around becoz' how else can one appreciate the virtues/goodness in men?

If all men were good, kindhearted & forgiving in nature..nobody would appreciate these qualities in men.

Segmund,so basically what you're saying is your way or the highway!...thank you for clearing that up!...p.s it's a bit ironic that you start a thread about "negativism",then say "i'm not here for a debate","keep your mouth shut" etc!...if you're not here to debate & discuss,what are you here for?...to shove your opinion down my throat?!...no thanks bud,you can keep it...over & out...

I do agree that as humanbeings we should be aware of another's feelings. Somehow there's always a nicer way of saying something as opposed to being harsh and rude.And yes it does upset me seeing how some individuals actually take great pleasure in putting down others, insulting and belittling them.Makes you wonder what a miserable life one must have to be able to take joy in causing pain and bitterness to around you.Even as Muslims we are supposed to practice speaking good or remain silent.Our Prohet said"Whosoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, let him speak good or remain silent." We are also adviced to speak without cursing and using bad words even when upset. And in fact are warned that using abusive languauge when angry can make us amount to a hypocrite!All in all it always helps to think before you utter least you hurt another.

I am going for my prayers (already late) and I leave you to try your meet water with fire method with the negativists. If it does not work, do not forget the meet fire with fire technique I just talked about a while ago. LOL, just kidding.

I actually meant negativism. I hate it when people teach me English. Here, you go for the definition that I meant. And please for God's sake do not point out flaws in my writing, I hate negativism. :)http://www.thefreedictionary.com/negativismComing to the topic, you did try to defend freedom of speech but now you are backing out from your original stance. Anyways, I am not here for a debate. My only point is that if you do not have something positive to comment about another individual, keep your mouth shut if you only utter negatives because this hurts.

Segmund, "negativism"(i presume you mean negativity,as tinker correctly pointed out) is one thing...insulting,verbal assaults against an individual are a whole other,let's not confuse the two here...my apologies if i wasn't clear...negativity may be about a point of view on a particular issue,it needn't have to be about an individual...i'm not justifying insulting,blurting out obscenitites or verbal assaults against an individual,that's not on...unless that individual starts it!...then i'm not one to take it lying down!...give as good as you get!...as the saying goes...

You are right!

:)

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Freedom of speech is a political term and applies to the law. It is not freedom of speech to subject another human to undue insult, to blurt out obscenities and to launch verbal assaults. You are very much decieved.

Once upon a time, I too used to think like that. Experience however taught me otherwise.

@ Segmund,do the terms,"freedom of speech", "right to an opinion",etc. ring a bell?! :)...anyways,who decides what is negative & what is not? Does it not come down to personal inference & interpretation?...what seems negative to you may not seem so to me & vice versa...it's a free world,one in which everyone is entitled to an opinion...

Precisely.

You are right about it but I am never saying we should ever use language that passes the limits of decency, that we should be as lewd as themselves or even that we should respond to their obscenities in the same manner. What I am saying is that we should criticize them with equal hate and should make them feel it. I am never saying we should do so because of the personal insult we have received at their hands. In fact, personally I never say anything wrong if someone says wrong things to  me. (It is my profession to smile to people even if they call me bad names). However, if we see someone else being rediculed or made fun of, we must come to their rescue. This is extremely rare though that we humans do that.

You forget that for some, putting others down is viewed as something to be admired.

I believe it is important to disallow such bitter tongued people from speaking any of their poisonous views out. We must respond to them in an equally harsh tone so they know what they are doing to others once it is done to themselves.