Inter-religious happy marriages
"It's possible to have an happy marriage between a catholique and a muslim
14.01.2009 - 20h14 Lusa The knowledge of the religions rules is important for the relations between people of different beliefs. But, in accordance with the declarations of some Muslims who live in Portugal, the catholics and the Islamic manage to live happy marriages and to have normal lives. Some Muslims had considered “unfortunated” the declarations made by the Lisbon's cardinal, Jose Policarpo, who alerted the young Portuguese for the “problems” caused by the marriage with Muslim. " It is possible to have an happy life between a catholic and a muslim" , said Amílcar Mahomed that was at the door of the Central Mosque of Lisbon. Although not being married, Amílcar Mahomed has a brother that lives with a catholic and another one that is engaged. For the mozambican that lives in Portugal for more than 30 years , "marriages between Muslen aren't mandatory" , but it's " needed" to know the rules " to prevent incorrections and getting in sinful situations". According to Amílcar Mahomed, alimentary habits and hygiene are some of the rules that you should know to have " an happy marriage". However, he admitted that it is " always better" a marriage between Muslims. Even because later on there will be children.
The children must be able to choose
" What is mandatory is children to have access to the Islamic religion and when they reach the majority must be able to choose" , was said by him, advancing that in Portugal already felt discriminated, but considers it " normal for who it lives in a country that is not 100 percent islamic".
Abdul Abdulaziz lives in Portugal, has 25 years and considers " normal" the marriages between catholics and Muslims, adding that he knows some mixed couples, where each one keeps their religion. " The Islamic religion says that you can marry or make a marriage with a not Muslim girl and she can keep the catholic religion. In Portugal there are cases and there wasn't any problem in between" , said to the Lusa Abdul Abdulaziz. For the mozambican, the declarations made by the Cardinal Patriarch are " pure demagogy" and " unhappy". Abdul Abdulaziz is married with a Muslim, but he confessed that he hasn't any problem in having a relationship with a woman from another religion. In a funny way he said: " the Muslim religion allows that a man marries four women since the the first one accepts it. In Africa this situation is common, but in Portugal not. The civilization is also different". They live about 34 a thousand Muslen in the domestic territory. The first ones came from Moçambique, dominated the language and quickly they had acquired an high social status. Later came the Muslims from Guiné-Bissau, the ones who recently joined the deriving ones of the Magrebe, Senegal, Pakistan, but also from India.
She fasrs with him and he celebrates the Christmas with her
Rute and Abdelilah Suisse were caught by surprise with the message from Jose Policarpo.
The couple does not review itself in the declarations and regrets the “intolerence” of the cardinal-patriarch in relation to the Muslims. Rute's family is not catholic but “she always celebrated all the religious parties” and Abdelilah Suisse is Moroccan and practices the islamism. They met at Porto's University , when Rute was getting her degree where Abdelilah was a teacher. Although they came from a different religious context, they had never had problems in establishing connection between the habits. The proof is that Abdelilah celebrates the Christmas and Passover with the family of Rute, and Rute for times fasts during the Ramadam.
" I never had any problems with his family. Nothing was ever imposed nor I was pressured to make anything. Accepted perfectly the uses and customs of it and he accepted mines" , it was assured by Rute. She is voluntarily fasting in the Ramadam but not every day, she decides to follow him. Rute said that she is " shocked" with the declarations made by cardinal-patriarch, beyond assuring that " she is not reviewed; in those declarations". Rute already went at her husband's country, in Morocco, and assures to have been received very well by all the familiar ones. And the future reflects this, exactly even being married for two years by the civilian, Rute and Abdelilah have plans of " one day to make a morroquian marriage". Abdalilah was more critical with the declaration of Jose Policarpo: " My first reaction was to give a irónic laugh, but regreting that a representative of the Catholic Church makes full declarations of adjective against the Muslims. He is showing a great intolerance when he should transmit an humanitarian and peace message". Lusa"
Source: http://ultimahora.publico.clix.pt/noticia.aspx?id=1356126
I agree with you to an extent, cuteydog. IMHO, inter faith marriages do not work if both parties are staunch believers in their religion. Anyone who goes into a marriage thinking that they can change their partner to their PoV or beliefs is asking for serious trouble, which are likely to be irreversibly detrimental and far reaching esp. if there are kids, etc.
As for inter racial marriages - I believe that can work if both parties are flexible and adaptable. As long as they have common values and common focus, any problem will be surmountable. Some people prefer it because of the diversity and celebrate the differences. Of course, many people prefer a common background because of the familiarity, etc. To each his and her own.
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Don't want no drama,
No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama
britexpat "A Christian lady can marry a Muslim man. There is no compulsion for her to convert."
- But not in MY. A learned Malaysian man once told me that what you said, britexpat, is the actual truth from the Qu'ran but that each country's religious leaders can choose how they want to regulate the issue.
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Don't want no drama,
No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama
Umm-salayum: It was stated by muslims in the street near the mosque.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I didn't even read to the end, .... alone the part with the children is not right .... Any muslimah with half of faith would NO at all let her children be misguided ( as in to Christianity ) , that is leading your kids to the hell fire , we don't want that for our children, or anybody for that matter......
Snow: Couldn't agree more, but as a peace worker, i should try to help building a stronger "bridge" amongst religions.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I prefer people first, religion second
smile lots laugh more
Airsupply: Yes i know that, i posted this here to show how the common citizen feals about all the BS said by the Patriarch, my first step, yesterday afternoon was to contact Sheik David Munir, Lisbon's mosque Iman, to know if i could be of any help regarding the understanding between both religions, and he thanked my understanding but he was going to Switzerland returning only Monday, i'll let you all know as soon as i speak with him.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I had a similar discussion with another Qatari some time ago, He thinks that a person born into Islam is always better than a revert.
I said that to live an entirely different life, then learn about Islam, then choose to accept it is better, since a person born into Islam MAY do the things he does just because he was being raised like that and as a habit, while the other has repented his sins (which in Islam convert from negative to positive), and has made a personal choice of Islam.
yeah , they r only fooling themselves
I must admit I have met a few who are like that. On the other hand , I have met a lot more who practice their faith better than those born into it..
Anyway, they are only fooling themselves.
yes you are right but they convert only on the paper but there belives still the same what do you think???...
I forgot to specify that this is connected to the declarations of the Patriarch Cardinal and that were commented by several people here, can you tell me why you always think that i'm stirring stuff?
I wasted some hours to translate this article to show people that the article posted yesterday by someone else shouldn't be taken too serious and instead of thanking the work i had, people accuse me of stirring stuff, i'm really surprised with your reply Brit. :|
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Why not check facts before posting..
A Christian lady can marry a Muslim man. There is no compulsion for her to convert.
A hindu lady must convert to Islam first.
A Christian or hindu man cannnot narry a Muslim Lady. He must convert first.
according to islam a muslim can marry a christian or a hindu only if that person is ready to accept islam otherwise noooooo.y the hell to marry a lady or a man from some other religion.any deficieny is der in this entire world to get people of same religion,its all shit........people wake upppppppp
Brit: you posted while i was typing pretty much the same thing.
Platao: your thread will irritate/annoy/anger people and you know why.
anyway, good weekend.
Once again , you are stirring a hornets nest..
What you are posting is one person's view and perception of how an interfaith marriage "may be accomodated"..
However, that is all it is. It does not adhere to Islamic guidelines..