I am not a Spinster!
Ok, I know this is directed at Qatari women, but I still resent the implication that being 27 and unmarried means that I'm a spinster. I prefer bachelorette, thank you very much.
"Spinsters posing ‘social problem’Published: Tuesday, 29 January, 2008, 02:22 AM Doha Time
AS much as 24% of Qatari women in the age group of 25 to 29 years are spinsters, and they are posing a serious social problem, according to a study made by Dr Hasan al-Muhannadi, deputy chairman of the standing committee on population, says a report published in a local Arabic daily.
Qatar has the highest percentage of spinsters in comparison to other GCC countries: Kuwait - 18%, Bahrain and UAE – 20% each.
The huge amount to be paid as dowry, personal attitudes and the increase in divorces are among the reasons mentioned in the study for Qatari women remaining as singles."
lol .... old maid ..
I never heard any these terms ;p
Only thing I ever hear was House maid ... lol
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I never heard any these terms LOL
Spinster???
Who came up with that
Only thing I ever heard was Old maid...LOL
You can't teach experience...
how about spinner ;p
you marry an abusive spouse and your life is a living hell full of dread every time you turn around, wondering if you are about to be hit hard enough to die or will they hit the children and hurt them?? Most of us are lucky enough to find that person with whom to love and live...some are incredibly unlucky to be tied to someone who loves hurting them....
Well the expats will shrug away from proposals perhaps
I agree with Paul...
Were not divorced...
Were single...LOL
Who needs lables anyway...
You can't teach experience...
Lima ... it's part of the life one cannot escape from it ;p
living single purposely is like living in a hell and it leads to more sins ;-o
Marriage life is wonderful and full of joy ! Also your generation continues ...
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at leaat now, i've had 2 children & now have 1 grandson. I dread to think what people will be asking me next. lol
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Its always " when am i gonna be a grandma ? i will be too old soon..." Arrggghhh, give me a break !!!
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Just wait until you do get married (that's if you want to), then everyone will start asking "when are you going to have a family". You can't win. :(
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I thought you are a blond !! .. but today you talked well about marriage ;-0
where did you get your blond hairs shaved ;-)
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you need to grow up ;p
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"Marital status" Single,Married, divorced or widowed.... they make it sound like divorced people have two heads or summat like that...
Surely if you are divorced,then you are single ???
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Oh Gypsy just give up on the thought of marriage, ur too old, it's over. Just go buy a trailer and adopt 23 cats :P
Don't worry though, I'll soon join u! lol
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I always thought that was the definition Black Prince, but according to the Gulf Times it's women between the ages of 25 and 29 :P
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
Where as sad gits like me dont :(
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wazzzup studs :D
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Gypsy.............you are sure not a spinster ( very old english term) in its proper old use a spinster could only be applied to a woman that had never been married and was past child bearing age.
So unless I am mistaken you cant be called a spinster in this sense
oooh, bad boys hijack...bachelorettes/spinsters/singletons/those who elect to be unwed....hide, quick!!!!
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Pinay "Ladies"....
If that helps you ?
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How's it going over there in Bahrain? I am planning a visit there soon. Know any places where the spinsters hang out?
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Hello Ricardo :)
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The time has come to substitute caution for courage. Martin Luther King, Birmingham, Alabama 1963
(Sad B******** ?????)
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So what is the social problem...that they seem to cause...Traffic jams....or late night female-only parties?
I don't think that's allowed.You will have to wait to get a Qatari nationality and by then you might be 80 already :))lol ...But keep trying :)
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DG Salam,
What if I fall in love with a Qatari girl and want to marry her ? am I allowed to do so or should I have the Qatari nationality before ?
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But I haven't met the right person yet. :S or at least nobodies asked me to marry them (ok one person did but we were too young and it didn't work out), so that's the only excuse I have.
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
even without been married you cannot find enough time for your mani-pedi...so it's maybe more time organizing issue...lol...
but seriously.. I think, if you wanted to get married, you would... now the question is WHY person doesn't want to marry? All these “either career or marriage” talks cannot be considered as a real reason .. there is something deeper than that…
also such things as "money issue", “unsettling”, "uncertainness", etc. are NOT barriers for building a family.
“money”…- we NEVER have it enough, no matter how much do we have.. to wait till “I will have enough money” and then get married is insane
“unsettling” – I believe it’ s much more fun to settle together, from the beginning to organize your life the way both you and your husband/wife like
"uncertainness" – everything is so uncertain in our life, even the life itself is uncertain..
so why you Gypsy and you Oryx and other gals don't want to get married? what are exactly your feelings about it, your thoughts, your fears?
"haven't met a right person yet" is not an explanation...
what then?
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mariam-mar, it's because in Qatar most women are married by the age of 25...generally women here marry after secondary, or tertiary education at the latest.
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But i wonder why ages 25-29 are already called spinsters? NOt fair!
Filmstars mostly marry at the age of 35 above.
Em, word to the wise Gypsy and Oryx...didn't your Mother tell you that you'll never find a 'good catch' if you talk about your dirty toenails in public. Tsk, tsk, girls.
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Now now all you spinster gals...soooo outspoken...just get back up on your shelf and be quiet and smile (which may I say is gettng a little dusty as time goes by) until someone comes along whereby you will gratefully accept his offer...
Lol, sorry, couldn't resist!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Forgive my impertinence.
Agree there is something very old-fashioned about the word 'spinster'. But then, Qatar isn't totally politically correct yet ;)
This is a problem of change and progress in the country. Most marriages are arranged. Parents get together and come up with a list of ' requirements' for their son/daughter, in consultation with them of course. Many men do not wish their wives to work and increasing numbers of women are either working or intend to so they will not agree to marry a man who will not support this.
Much better to stay single if one cannot find a compatible partner. I know of several marriages breaking down shortly after marriage because the women felt pressure from her family to marry so agreed and was miserable.
I guess in this still traditional society it is almost a must for many families for their daughters (and sons) to be married and have children.
I hope that more and more women can choose their own path and the social stigma of electing not to get married diminishes. perhaps we are looking at a few generation down the line at least.
On a personal note, my parents did not wish me to have an arranged marriage so I chose my partner. They are enlightened people. Thanks Mum and Dad!
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I wonder what 'social problems' can a spinster pose on a society ?
Join the club Oryx, I'm in desperate need of a mani-pedi
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
I think you can have both and sympathise a lot with each other.
However when you work and have household chores you can both get very busy and don't spend enough 'together time'.
We put so much into our work etc and a fraction of that same energy into relationships.
You come in tired have to do the washing up and you aren't looking your best and you put on your pyjamas and you fall asleep.
It becomes routine...
Which reminds me I desperately need some over haul work and servicing at a beauty salon.
Hey Bro Frog ! how r you ? long time !
Well you are right, one main factor is that they are not allowed to marry Non-Qatari, if this ban is released i am sure the % will fall drastically
Then only we will come to know how many QL non-qatari are in the que ;p
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Qatarisun in the vast majority of the world career and marriage ARE combined quite well for both spouses. I beleive here, because there is still culture issues with women working, is it thought of as a barrier to a happy marriage.
However, look at Diamondgirl, she admits to both working and having a happy marriage, and I know many other Qatari women who do both as well, so I don't think it is a barrier to the upper class of Qataris, more to the more conservative lower class.
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
To be honest, I never could understand why people think that work and career can become an obstacle for happy marriage? Why a "loving supportive" relationship along with building your career can work fine and marriage cannot? I think keeping your relationship up involve even more emotional work than keeping up a marriage. Really.. Gypsy.. just want to hear your point of view.. why they always try to oppose with career/social success to a happy marriage?… why choice must be made: either to get a good job or to get married? I am personally sure that these two can be combined in perfect harmony. What do you think?
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An unhappy marriage looks like a living prison of lonliness and unfufillment to me. 24/7
a lot of Qatari girls are well educated with good career prospects - more so than their male counterparts. Some Qatari girls don't want to marry boys with less education and prospects... which comes under the remit in the article of 'changing attitudes'.
One of the reasons Qatari women are not getting married is that so-called social rule ( maybe it's also part of the national law) that Qataris could not get married to non-qatari men. So stupid and really of an ancien age.
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I think these women are wise....If you avent found someone who you can truly be happy with, why rush to get married. I would rather be called a spinister and be happy in my life than be unhappily married...
I don't know, I got this from the Gulf Times.
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
"...a report published in a local Arabic daily."
Which Arabic daily is that ?
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I like that they blame "personal attitudes" as a reason women aren't getting married by 24. I wonder what those personal attitudes could be?
Persumably it would be that these women want a career, therefore if they are working would that not mean they aren't a "social problem" as they are financially independent?
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
outta girl... guess sssssssshhhhhhhhhh indeed...
have a good day Gypsy and Oryx.
Everybody is right and Everybody is wrong, its depend where you stand
Yeah its a huge double standard....there is no male equivalent to an older man being unmarried!
Although, by the time I was 25 my parents were on my butt about "settling down"....I finally got them off my back when I married at 28...and the baby talk started....last year we got them off our backs for that....now its: when are you going to give her a sibling?...IT JUST NEVER ENDS! Argh!!! LOL
Stay safe all.
Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?
thats the problem.
Here you are married or not married.
You can be in a loving supportive relationship but if you are not married you have to be quiet because it is illegal.
You can be married to a nasty wife beater (my neighbour) and it is respectable.
Gypsy I had to knit a teddy bear for a brownie badge... maybe i can remember!
Mila! Implying that I have someone special in my life implies that I am commiting and illegal act here in Qatar! Shush! :P
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
Gypsy, I feel ur concerns but is hard to believe somebody beautiful as you dont have anybody in special. And mother everywhere is the same. They all start singing when we reach number 30 and still no married. The lecture is loooooonng and boring..
my opinion, dont take it seriously. Just stay happy as you are and enjoy life.
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I don't even no how to knit dammit. The worst part is that my mother is going to read this in todays paper, and she's gone a bit "native" since she came here so I know I'm going to get the third degree on why I don't have a husband yet. Sigh *shakes fist at sky* Damn you Gulf Times! Damn you!
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
OH I have seen this before: 25 - year old spinster....LOL
(it is non-British English and not in use now in England)
I don't like Bachlorette either... as it is
a) feminisation of male
b) Americanisation
just say un-married
here it is difficult because single means one doesn't have a partner and if you have a partner but are not married = Haram
I also hate it when I fill things in and I can't tick Miss... I MUST be Ms. I am proud to be Miss not ashamed... neo-feminism?
But - spinster... LOL this image of some sour bitter old biddy knitting cardies comes to mind! Not quite there yet!