Homeless Man at The Centre

Sponsor system is nothing but slavery and it is practice of dark age. Even Muslim prophet forbids any form of slavery and there is big punishment for people who promote or assist in such act in Islam. For those people who think Islam is life style of Qatari people or what government practice here (slavery) please read Islam. Islam is religion of peace, mercy and forgiving. Helping poor and needy (paying Zakat and sadkah—Islamic poor people tax). Just human right -Pay your workers before their sweat dry.

Helping other- Help other human being (needed and poor) Allah (god) will help you.

These are many.... please read Islam and follow it and fight against such cruelty, because fighting toward such cruelty is also good deed of Islam.

What a shame.... this world is getting lonelier and lonelier place to live with.

Europa Moon.. anyone?

cheers!

"Whatever God does, He does it in love. he never take one thing away from you without giving you back something better".

Embassies are made to take care of their people, ya?

"Whatever God does, He does it in love. he never take one thing away from you without giving you back something better".

A religious man is a person who holds God and man in one thought at one time, at all times, who suffers harm done to others, whose greatest passion is compassion, whose greatest strength is love and defiance of despair.

I do... I cant bear to see people in this state of being. Mush as we would like to help but the best thing we can do is hand the matter to the proper authorities like the Embassy of Nepal. Every expats Emabssy in a foreign land should have measures to counteract this kind of situation.

And for the meantime when we are able to help, we must in any way possible.

Bless your souls guys

Blue

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"Whatever God does, He does it in love. he never take one thing away from you without giving you back something better".

god bless you

and all who supports such noble cause...

let me know (PM), If I could assist in anyways.

JJ...weldone....

JJ,

Well done.

Your kindness has to be appriciated.

May God bless you.

the-birdie, i do share some of your thoughts.

We cant change the world, alone. But we can be kind to the ones we come across. We can try to change the misfortune of atleast one, and if everyone starts to think that way, surely the world will change.

Instead of worrying about what the world has given to us, if we think of what we can give to the world,

surely the world will change.

If this is the short guy who wears a floppy hat, he is Vietnamese and I have spoken with him a couple of times and given him money. Sometimes he is at Villaggio doing the same thing. From what I understand, he was injured in a fall and has knee problems. He is currently collecting empty aluminium cans which he sells on for recycling.

I have the means to help this person through an organisation specifically created to help needy migrant labourers but can't communicate wih him. I have given him my telephone number and tried to convey to him that he needs to have someone who speaks English call me. Does anyone out there know someone who speaks Vietnamese who would be willing to speak to him on the telephone and act as translator? If so, please let me know.

Meantime, its a great idea to separate your coke and pepsi cans from your garbage and leave them in a bag outside for easy retreival. There are many abandoned labourers in his position who are relying on can collection to sustain them through desperate times.

Thanks JJ, for the timely action for all that he might have remembered, and thanks again for the thoughts that inspired you to to help him.

May this deed of yours shed light to hundreds of minds who thinks otherwise.

Exactly Xena - the visa has to be valid to show in immigration computers - therefore the company's name who requests the visa has to be registered and therefore the Qatari sponsor can be located.

Do Qatar's immigration/labour/business departments do any verification on companies (especially those who request large numbers of entry/work visas for expats from poor countries) actual operating status? Qatar is not that big a place that it would be difficult to find out what's going on even before these duplicitous companies get going.

eu61 I don't agree on your statement.

It's wrong, if you justify by generalizing this issue just stating "Nepal situation is worse than wander by Doha streets eating from trash bins?"

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awkhan,

I don't think many people would think the deportation centre was a nice place. The Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights has mentioned the problem:

Applicable international standards oblige Qatar to identify and treat victims of human trafficking as victims. However, domestic workers who flee situations of exploitation and abuse are frequently re-victimized. Their cases often fail to be investigated with due diligence by the authorities and the victims are considered to be irregular migrants whose visas lapsed once they fled from exploitative or abusive employers. In many cases these victims end up in a detention centre before being deported, while the perpetrators enjoy impunity.

Source: UN HCHR

one thing I want to clear that it is not a jail but detaining center with lot of good facilities that normaly these kind of worker never had,but at the cost of independence,which no one like.I found lot of similor cases and most of them real,there were some good actors too. but if you can help please help,since you will get cetainly reward, no matter what faith you belongs to and who ever is in need. after all we all are human.

awkhan

If they caught, they will put in jail for some days and send back to home country, isnt it?

deportation sounds bad? Nepal situation is worse than wander by Doha streets eating from trash bins?

:-/

I thank god for all I have and my parents gave me...

War looking for peace,

is like fornication looking for virginity.

there that care.

I am a bit confused regarding these fake visas though. how do you make it through customs if your visa is fake and doesn't register on the immigration's computer?

"if you don't like the heat... get out of the kitchen... but stop trying to fan the flames before you leave... it will burn you on the a** as you go through the doorway...." ME

visit www.qaws.org

thanks to JJ twice (from me)- One for helping human-being in need and aother for helping Nepalse (i too belong to her).

FYI - i posted this to my blog.

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It's true that they check your visa or RP before checking in, but airline staff can't tell if that visa is real or not. If you can still remember, the visa that you have before your RP is just a piece of paper print out from a computer that anyone can make. That's why every airlines are obligate to fly their passenger back even if they only have oneway ticket when they become IN ADMITSABLE.

But, if they can actually clear immigration then airlines are no longer responsible. Now it became the responsibility of their sponsor (which does not exist) and the Qatar Immigration Department. I don't know how these fake companies obtain those visa, but we can see that more and more labor became homeless people here in Doha.

Most labor that got stranded here in Doha actually have real visa, but no real job. They would probably love to go home, but can't afford it.

The other case would be those run away labor. They actually have a job, but it's not as advertised and bad living condition so they ran away.

I was aware of fake labour companies, but even they need a "real" Qatari partner/sponsor. Why does immigration allow them through if there is no one there to pick them up - it seems a simple enough step to add to the entry procedure, no pick up then they must go home on the next available flight.

If this were implemented AND the airlines who transport these poor men were made to fly them back at the airline's expense - then this practice would soon dry up. Perhaps it should be made mandatory too that Qatar Airways is the only airline that can accept passengers with this type of "fake" visa.

Once things start to "cost" the airlines or the local sponsor then things will change.

Goodness knows, my RP is checked before I get onboard my flights to Doha to ensure that they won't have to fly me back.

Marycatherine, these people were sponsored by fake Labor recruitment company. Visit visa are so strict for expat, but not very strict if you open up a company. Some company are so fake that they don't even have a real office, but yet somehow they can obtain visa and claim that they do have hundred of employees.

Lots of poor people from may countries have paid a fortune to come and work here in Qatar hoping that they can make good money to send home. Unfortunately these labor have been dealing with fake companies. As soon as they have arrived in Doha, no one come to pick them up. No job, no money, no place to live as advertised. Stranded in Doha with no money and no ticket to go home.

It's very sad, but true.

I hope there would be more people helping out these poor guys... but indeed, you can get in trouble. However I think somehow God puts us in the right place for the right purpose and your deed would be rewarded.

How can some people enter the country without being sponsored? I would have thought that some nationalities would have a very difficult time getting a visit visa? Perhaps I am wrong and someone can educate me on this point?

One of our groups raised a bit of money and such for Mitery but we have been hearing that one of the organizers there is corrupt at best and pockets a lot of the money. I am not one to immediatly believe this but it does make me a little reluctant. We bought food and med supplies for the Nepalise Embassy instead as they have a great outreach program.

JJ, you say he was carrying clothes in a bag and such? I assume you only saw him once correct? PM me, I will be down around there and would like to do something for this guy. I will take one of our Nepali employees with me if I can to try and find out whats wrong with this guy as our office is near there.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Dear JJ,

I dont know what to suggest, as I am not very informative about this being relatively new to Qatar, but certainly this deed of yours is a great inspiration for others here to follow.

People like you is keeping the humanity still alive.

God bless you and your family

Regards,

Ngourlay - not everyone is sponsored. There have been cases of some south asian labourers who have come into the country and literally never see their residence visas. their supposed sponsors never even bother to pick them up from the airport and keep telling them that they'll (the sponsors) get the residence visas for them but htat never happens.

But good on you jasminejasmine - perhpas we can get the foodcourts to save over the perfectly good food they insist on throwing away and donate it to these people. Some of us QLers (including me) could form some sort of group?? Does that sound ludicrous or just wouldn't work in Qatar?

I had a similar-ish experience at the centre the other day. I couldn't tell you what nationality the guy was - possibly indian/bangladeshi. I was sitting in the car waiting for my husband, and he knocked the window asking for money. At first I was unsure (I also didn't have any money on me), he then pulled up his shirt and he was all bandaged and had a catheter bag full of urine. He was in absoolute tears, said he had had an operation at Hamad and they discharged him, but he had no money and was hungry. I told him to wait until my husband came back, and when he did, we gave him 100 Riyals. We asked if he wanted a lift somewhere but he said no.

I can't stop thinking about him. I hope he is ok :o(

was he wearing a cleaning company shirt? there was a guy hanging around the parking lot on sunday. He appeared behind me suddenly as I got to my car. Without a word he loaded all my groceries in for me. I gave him a little money for the help and he looked grateful.

Your choice to stand up to this perceived threat is scary as hell for some. But courage isn’t doing what is easy. Courage isn’t doing something others are afraid to do but you aren’t. it’s doing something you’re afraid to do because you know that doing what is right is worth possibly crashing and burning for.

No need to explain more... That's what makes your courage admirable.

u see the food here going to waste,its so sad, this is a rich(well,well of country)people shudnt have to live like that, but u no the saying. ALL THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD bless u jj,

After all, have you though about the enormous waste in the food courts? I guess somebody had a better idea...

I always asked the guys to keep the bread of the kid's meal from KFC, my kid never eats it and I want to prevent it thrown it to the garbage...

jj you are an Angel in disguise doing Gods good work.. big up to you

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Jasminejasmine, i saw this guy over a year ago as well in the same spot, picking up left over food from the bins near KFC. i handed him QR100 as well but obviously he has been stranded here for a long time. Poor guy...

there are a lot of expat labourers in Qatar who have been effectively abandoned by their Qatari sponsors who have not fulfilled their agreed responsiblities (food, accomodation and flight home). They tie things up in Qatari courts by not appearing prolonged delays in providing documents etc.

These poor men want to work or go home but they are stuck because they have been evicted by supposed employers who refuse to meet their obligations. Nepal is a very poor country with very limited resources to try and help these men.

You did a very good thing - hopefully, others will try to help in any small way they can too. It all adds up. I am a firm believer in what goes around comes around - these unscrupulous employers will get what they have earned, whether in this world or the next. I can only do what I can do to help those I see here and now.

Of course you did the right thing! What else could you have done. That poor man. I live near there and rest assured I will drive by there tomorrow to see if I can spot him and take him some stuff and money. I know it is onlt the tip of the iceberg but how can anybody ignore this mans plight.

it may be an idea to let the Gulf Times know too.

WE ALL KNOW ABOUT WHAT WE DEED TO OTHER'S SAME TO OUR CREATOR GOD ALMIGHTY.i pitty also with the nepalie's about their situation here HOPE ALL PEOPLE SAME UR ATTITUDE I KNOW LOTS OF NEPALIE'S AND THEIR WORKING COMPANY BUT THEIR GETTING QR.400.SALARY PER MONTH I EMPLOY ONE TO CLEAN MY HOUSE EVERY ONE HE SPEND 3 HOUR'S QR.25 PER HOUR.THANK U FOR UR KINDNESS..

check this out if u`re not sure

http://qatar.livejournal.com/224945.html

good luck and god bless you

jasmine, u can contact this number 5767960 or email them to [email protected] they are the one whose organizing these stranded workers in a safe house. u can collect whatever u want to give such as foods, clothes, blanket, even toilet paper or money and they can come to take it.

good deed JJ... whereas this kind is not new within Doha... of 15th morning... red patrol cars of CID's are on inspection along Salwa Road between Midmac and Qatar Decoration... a group of 4 nepalis were caught. They were told to ride in on CID's red cars standby beside the road... upon about to hitch in... the 4 escape running on the opposite road side... unfortunately... the last one hit by a passing car... bullseye!! his shoes were 20 meters away from him... blood scatters from his head down to his body... luckily... he's conscious...

~~Life's Cycle~~~

My dear wonderful friend

I believe he was homeless, he had a couple of Carrefour bags with his clothes in. Thank you for the kind words, I have heard of some Nepalese men who are unable to get home because their sponsorship was cancelled and no flights were given. I guess he is just trying to survive but avoid prison. If it were possible, I would sponsor and employ him for a year then pay for him to go home.

though I am not a Muslim, let me borrow the words from them " YOU WILL BE REWARDED FOR THIS GOOD DEED"

dont worry about others who bray " you should not feel sorry about them; you cannot do anything for them "

then what we should do ? asking stupid questions like

"I have been offered 32000 per month and a villa. is it sufficient ???? "

or talking about those posh lifestyle the dinner in Marriott and dance in Four Seasons ??

You have done a good deed, JJ

jj, he is sponsored. Everyone in this country is sponsored. Runaway labourers are locked up in the detention centre if caught. There is nothing you can do for him without putting yourself at risk of prosecution. Sorry.

The Mitery House gives some Nepalis food and a place to sleep. Perhaps that might be an option if you want to donate to someone.

I admire your courage JJ... =)

Nepalese Embassy?

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call me ONE.

May the almighty reward you for ur good deed.. !..

rms..!!

Dear JJ. Respect your sentiments and the good deed. However, not sure hohw we can help. Hope other people shall come up with good suggestions.