fraud alert - fake property in classifieds
I don't know if this sort of thing runs rampant here, but thought I'd post about it anyway.
This is the ad:
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/7062566 (again, keep in mind, it's *fake*)
The ad is for a property on rent in the Najma area. The advertiser had only posted his e-mail ID, no phone number (I suppose that should've been the first sign).
Anyway, I fired off an e-mail to this person, and he replied claiming he's in the UK at the moment but that we could mediate the transaction through a website called www.cda-limited.co.uk (i.e. I send him money, he sends me the keys and documents for the house, and CDA Limited oversee the whole deal).
It was fairly easy to tell that the CDA Limited website was fake (although for a non tech-savvy person it might not be). The most obvious sign is that the domain name was only registered a few days ago. Also, upon Googling the phone number on the contact page turned up on some fraud alert websites.
Someone's complained about a person who calls himself Abdel Majid Humada on this page:
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/6799841
and I think it's the same person.
Anyway.. be safe, be careful and all that.
http://www.qatarliving.com/user/944606/track?page=1
BIG SALE!!!
-He has one prado to sell for 40,000 !!!!
(http://www.qatarliving.com/node/10645781)
-and also one flat for 4000 !!! (http://www.qatarliving.com/node/10961771)
Some body there to occupy that???? :P :P
If somebody wish to through your money please give me half of that then I can meet my financial budgets and the other half you can buy a bottle of poison. :D :D
I will appreciate QL Admin if he can manage this fraud and everyone who are registering from outside Qatar.
because most of the people trusting QL blindly
I responded to him pretending I'm innoncent :) and asked him when he is coming back to Doha and we wanted to see the flat :
this is message: asking me already to send QAR 7000 and he insisted I am wasting his time LOL
Hi ,
Read my e-mail i'm in Uk now and i don't have any person show you the flat and keys it's with me, and for that i need have a warranty don't lost my time and i will come show you the flat for the first person show me a real warranty before come....I can assure you of the viewing but i will like to discuss some thing with you, as you know am in United Kingdom currently and before i can come down to London for the viewing i will like to see a proof of your financial capacity and to know how serious you are in need of the property because i have been fooled so many times and i will not let that to happen to me again. When i got there for the viewing they will never show up and when i called there phone they will keep on banging the phone on me so it has been a very sad and disappointing occasion for me and i waste a lot of money also for transport when coming for the viewing, so i don't want that to happen to me anymore.
Here is what I propose:
The service name that we'll use is Western Union transfers. You must find the nearest Western Union agency in any bank and you go to Western Union and you send cash 7000qr for know you have money cash for the rent when i meet you to any name you want for have warranty keep the flat only for you and don't lost my time....When make payment you will pay transfer fee but don't worry about this because i will give you back for you don't pay extra money.
The transfer must to be like this:
sender name : your name
sender address : your address Qatar
receiver name : friend,wife name,brother,mother,father, etc...
receiver address : United Kingdom
If you have here any person, friend , member family in Uk it's perfect ..... made this western union payment prove for him name and address in Uk.
(In case you probably do not have relatives in the United Kingdom, but it does not matter. You just assume for a moment that your member family is in United Kingdom and is not problem if this it's not there....... You go to Western Union and you say that you want to send the money to your member family, who is now in the United Kingdom).You need put United Kingdom country destination just for can check my self the transfer status.... because the operator can check only if the money it's sent in UK not in another country....
Then you send me a copy,photo of a receipt by e-mail. I will check if the transfer is real and I come to present the flat.This is a transfer from a person to a person and takes about 10 minutes.Or in case you have here person make this transfer for him name in United Kingdom.
I don't have time lost with all the person ask me about the flat .... and meet in UK with this..... only after you prove me the paper Western Union and money it's available i can meet with this.... NO BEFORE THAT..... because i know 100% keep this just for you and cancel all talk with rest person.
I can come show you the flat next 3-4 days after is see the receipt western union with the payment done and money it's there cash available until the day you see the flat.
You must to know exactly......you will pay me the money for the flat cash 7000QR only face to face after you see the flat and if you like this i made the contract with you......., but now i need to know 100% you have money ready and my self for keep the flat just for you available... because not only you want see the flat and i don't have time lost.....
I know from the beggining it's a scam since no tel. nos. and mobile only. So out of curiosity I sent him email . Please read below conversation :
1st response in my enquiry:)
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:45 PM, abdlemagid humada wrote:
Hi,
My name is Humada, i have the flat for rent, now i'm in England(United Kingdom) but i can come to show you this and i’m a private landlord.
The rent is 3500QR month for the whole place including all bills electricity.
minimum stay : 1 month and max 1-5 years. Security Deposit-returnable at the end of a month stay in my flat.
Before start the deal you must have the money cash and ready to pay for 2 months 7000qr (1 month rent + 1 month security deposit).
If you want pay for more months it's ok for me.
Rental price is lower because i want to rent the apartment fast as possible.You can keep pet if you have.
The flat and the flat is fully furnished, newly refurbished and also benefits from wood flooring.
Location:
Najma near Hot Bread Bakery (5 Min. To C Ring Road)
Description:
* 2 Bedroom
* 2 Bathroom
* 1 Guest Hall
* Spacious Dining Area
* Kitchen
* Parking Car 2
Including water, electricity and internet.The flat is clean,the area is quiet .
You can see the flat when you have time.
I have nobody in ,Qatar that could show you the flat and the keys here with me.I need to come personal to meet you and present the flat and made the documents rent the flat.
Please don't spend my time with endless discutions,or pure curiosity.
Regards
Hi,
My name is Humada, i have the flat for rent, now i'm in England(United Kingdom) but i can come to show you this and i’m a private landlord.
The rent is 3500QR month for the whole place including all bills electricity.
minimum stay : 1 month and max 1-5 years. Security Deposit-returnable at the end of a month stay in my flat.
Before start the deal you must have the money cash and ready to pay for 2 months 7000qr (1 month rent + 1 month security deposit).
If you want pay for more months it's ok for me.
Rental price is lower because i want to rent the apartment fast as possible.You can keep pet if you have.
The flat and the flat is fully furnished, newly refurbished and also benefits from wood flooring.
Location:
Najma near Hot Bread Bakery (5 Min. To C Ring Road)
Description:
* 2 Bedroom
* 2 Bathroom
* 1 Guest Hall
* Spacious Dining Area
* Kitchen
* Parking Car 2
Including water, electricity and internet.The flat is clean,the area is quiet .
You can see the flat when you have time.
I have nobody in ,Qatar that could show you the flat and the keys here with me.I need to come personal to meet you and present the flat and made the documents rent the flat.
Please don't spend my time with endless discutions,or pure curiosity.
Regards
abdlemagid humada [[email protected]]
THIS IS THE ANOTHER ONE RECENTLY I FACED.
humada abdlemagid
Hi ,
Read my e-mail i'm in Uk now and i don't have any person show you the flat and keys it's with me, and for that i need have a warranty don't lost my time and i will come show you the flat for the first person show me a real warranty before come....I can assure you of the viewing but i will like to discuss some thing with you, as you know am in United Kingdom currently and before i can come down to London for the viewing i will like to see a proof of your financial capacity and to know how serious you are in need of the property because i have been fooled so many times and i will not let that to happen to me again. When i got there for the viewing they will never show up and when i called there phone they will keep on banging the phone on me so it has been a very sad and disappointing occasion for me and i waste a lot of money also for transport when coming for the viewing, so i don't want that to happen to me anymore.
Here is what I propose:
The service name that we'll use is Money Gram transfers. You must find the nearest Money Gram agency
( https://www.moneygram.com ) and you go to Money Gram and you send cash 9000qr for know you have money cash for the rent when i meet you to any name you want for have warranty keep the flat only for you and don't lost my time....When make payment you will pay transfer fee but don't worry about this because i will give you back for you don't pay extra money.
The transfer must to be like this:
sender name : your name
sender address : your address Qatar
receiver name : friend,wife name,brother,mother,father, etc...
receiver address : United Kingdom
If you have here any person, friend , member family in Uk it's perfect ..... made this money gram payment prove for him name and address in Uk.
I don't have time lost with all the person ask me about the flat .... and meet in UK with this..... only after you prove me the paper Money Gram and money it's available i can meet with this.... NO BEFORE THAT..... because i know 100% keep this just for you and cancel all talk with rest person.
I can come show you the flat next 3-4 days after is see the receipt money gram with the payment done and money it's there cash available until the day you see the flat.
You must to know exactly......you will pay me the money for the flat cash 9000QR only face to face after you see the flat and if you like this i made the contract with you......., but now i need to know 100% you have money ready and my self for keep the flat just for you available... because not only you want see the flat and i don't have time lost.....
See address Money gram details:
QTEL
WEST BAY CENTRE THE CORNICHE 101
DOHA, 217
Mob: 44400400
View Hours View Services
Monday: 12:00 AM - 11:59 PM
Tuesday: 12:00 AM - 11:59 PM
Wednesday: 12:00 AM - 11:59 PM
Thursday: 12:00 AM - 11:59 PM
Friday: 12:00 AM - 11:59 PM
Saturday: 12:00 AM - 11:59 PM
Sunday: 12:00 AM - 11:59 PM
Exchange Rate 1 QAR = 0.163949 GBP
Send Amount 8,925.00 QAR
Receive Amount 1,463.25 GBP
Fee* 75.00 QAR
Total Cost 9,000.00 QAR
nuts
This is one of the e-mails he sent me, that explains how he wants to transaction to be conducted. His e-mail is in the link in my original post, if you want to have fun with it, be my guest.
***************************************************
Hi again,
At this time i don't have time come my self made the rent and I can arrange a transport delivery keys to your country in Qatar using a shipping company service for delivery.
They work fast and they are using safety and a guarantee service. The name of the company is CDA Limited ( h t t p://www. cda-limited. co. uk ) and they had a warehouse in Durham ( UK ), not so far away.
For shipping not late more than 2-3 days.They will ask you for the money proof before starting the shipping procedure.
They have documents can rent the flat in my place.
DO NOT ASK GIVE YOU NOW THE FLAT ADDRESS , ONLY AFTER I KNOW 100% DELIVERY THE KEYS FLAT TO YOU ONLY.
You will have to confirm your payment and this money will be kept in a protection account until your final decision.
If you like it you just sign the papers and they send the money in my account.
There is also a refund policy included, in case that you do not agree with the flat condition.
They just refund your money back by the same way. In this way there will be avoided any kind of problem.
I need the following info from you to start the deal:
Full name:
Street:
Zip code/City:
Country:
Mobile phone no#:
You will receive a tracking number which allows you to check the transport any time on their web page.
**************************************************
It is good to see you spotting a scam and making people aware...:)
Ask them to send the keys to see the flat for yourself (which is normal) and documents to verify them. It will be fun to see their response....:)
here we go again! Its a scam!
thanks for the alert mate , its really nice to see some good people still exist