France intervenes in Mali

britexpat
By britexpat

French troops have begun military operations including air strikes in Mali ..

This is at the request of the Mali Government..

My question: Have we not learned any lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan ?

Should we not leave countries to sort out their own mess ?

Is France right to intervene in Mali ?

By nomerci• 13 Jan 2013 11:29
nomerci

True Bachus. Thing is now we actually know what is happening....

By Bachus• 13 Jan 2013 00:39
Bachus

nomerci--I agree to some extent. But to a large extent the sense that terrorism is rising is a result of two things:

1. Terrorism is being used as a catch-all phrase for rebels, dissidents, guerilla fighters, etc. Label your enemy a terrorist and you get a free reign to do all sorts of things to them.

2. 24 hour media results in a great exaggeration of their activities. 20 years ago Mali would not have made the 30 minute evening or late night news cycles in the West, and it would not have even been reported in the rest of the world (due to lack of journalistic infrastructure).

By nomerci• 13 Jan 2013 00:28
nomerci

Blosted, it can't be done this way. Obviously. They are gaining ground, fast.Killing, oppressing and forcing people.

They have the money, the know how and a lot of power.

Think about it...what comes to mind?

By Blosted• 12 Jan 2013 23:24
Blosted

@nomerci there are no specific way to fight terrorism, knowing that if they leave the field terrorists be, they would eventually spread terror and reign over the public.

Currently they are at least trying to leave this cancer at bay.

By Bachus• 12 Jan 2013 22:19
Bachus

Great thinking France! What could possibly go wrong?

By stealth• 12 Jan 2013 22:12
stealth

in what way does it affect France? They were the ones who were supporting all those dictators out in Africa. HOw come everyone forgot about Rwanda?

They would be more worried about losing their puppet rulers than anything else.

Regarding SOmalia try to find out about dumping waste in the seas near SOmalia.

By kkforever young• 12 Jan 2013 15:41
kkforever young

That is exactly the problem as all neighboring countries are run by dictators or corrupt regimes who failed to make any progress whatsoever. France can do what they like but it is time that these countries decide for themselves what they want. What do they always ask the 'West' to step in ? It is not my problem.

By nomerci• 12 Jan 2013 15:40
nomerci

Brit, yes, again I can only agree.

And here we have it again, ethics, or better said, the lack of.

It is a pathetic sham.

By britexpat• 12 Jan 2013 15:38
britexpat

Your comment "Interests need to be reviewed and re- prioritized ,fast" sums it up.. Many of these groups are used as proxies by governments to further their own agendas.

By nomerci• 12 Jan 2013 15:37
nomerci

Blosted, maybe so. But do you not agree that it is high time to start to make an effort in that direction?

If governments/countries continue to fight this cancer from the wrong end, shrug their shoulders at the perceived difficulty of taking the right kind of action, well, then I guess things will continue to go seriously down the drain.

By Blosted• 12 Jan 2013 15:21
Blosted

@nomerci easier said than done.

By nomerci• 12 Jan 2013 15:15
nomerci

Indeed brit. And because of that and many other countries ( maybe even Egypt? ) being in the claws of those groups, does that not warrant to put extra effort into getting rid of them?

Fighting those on the field is useless.They can and will be replaced,as we see on a daily basis. The people who are paying and organizing them, those are the ones that need to be eliminated.

Interests need to be reviewed and re- prioritized ,fast.

By britexpat• 12 Jan 2013 15:06
britexpat

Not that straight forward.

Too many vested interests.

Look at what's going on in DR Congo. The U.N is there, yet rebels come in - kill, rape, pillage and then leave at will. :O(

By Blosted• 12 Jan 2013 15:02
Blosted

Let them rest in peace, Somalia is a very dangerous place for operations , even for the most elite anti-terrorism groups.

By nomerci• 12 Jan 2013 14:39
nomerci

So, these so called Islamists are causing trouble the world over and are financed externally.

Now, is it known who is financing them? And if so, why not go after those "people" ?

By britexpat• 12 Jan 2013 14:35
britexpat

Two French commandos were killed and hostage murdered by captors after daring helicopter raid on Somali militants ends in disaster today :O(

By Blosted• 12 Jan 2013 14:02
Rating: 4/5
Blosted

Whenever there are any terrorist groups, they must be confronted.

Especially the ones like in Mali who are trying to impose their rules.

Basically its like what used to be in Afghanistan before the Soviet intervention.

And do not underestimate the harmful ability of terrorist cells.

After all you can make a Chemical weapon in your kitchen for 300Dollars that might kill and severely injure thousands.

Terrorism,its no joke.

By landloverreview• 12 Jan 2013 13:46
Rating: 3/5
landloverreview

Wt about Palestine issue? Israel is doing the same thing ( as Islamist rebels) from decades and none of these western countries did respond as they are doing with the other poor countries like Mali.

Terror has so many faces...its not only the bloodshed..in my point of view squeezing the poor for own political & economical interests is also a terror.

I thought François Hollande being a Far right socialist wont interfere in other countries problems like his incumbent Sarkozy.

By anonymous• 12 Jan 2013 12:03
anonymous

Kk, it is the neighbouring countries letting these religious extremists cross the border into Mali that is the problem.

By notyourboyfriend• 12 Jan 2013 12:00
notyourboyfriend

The word of colonization...they don't use it anymore. It's just PROXY!

By kkforever young• 12 Jan 2013 11:57
kkforever young

Let these countries solve their own mess or with the help of the neighboring countries.

By BlueBull• 12 Jan 2013 11:09
Rating: 3/5
BlueBull

Brite - There has to be a fairness. Islamist rebels are not fighting local wars. They are a joint coalition with funding and support globally. Smaller countries need support from wherever they can get. Qatar must help saving smaller African countries like Somalia,Ethiopia and the likes from the savagery and brutality of the religious fanatics who are armed to the teeth by global forces.

By doha estate• 12 Jan 2013 10:23
doha estate

Good move by France

By eathenhunt• 12 Jan 2013 10:16
eathenhunt

am still confused about whom to call the "Axis of Evil"

By anonymous• 12 Jan 2013 10:14
Rating: 3/5
anonymous

Well the Islamic extremists have been killing the locals, oppressing them introducing sharia law that they don't want and destroying cultural icons. They are not inclusive for the population and want to impose their laws through violence and intimidation. So on that basis I would think intervention is necessary. The majority would welcoming it.

By britexpat• 12 Jan 2013 10:00
Rating: 2/5
britexpat

Surely , It is right that these nations try and sort out their own problems. Otherwise, they will become proxies for the bigger nations. - Oh , hold on! they already are :O(

By BlueBull• 12 Jan 2013 09:49
Rating: 5/5
BlueBull

Brite - You cannot expect the international community to keep quite and watch the rebels take over smaller nations one byn one. The governments of these countries are not equipped to handle such situations. The Islamist rebels get external support - financial and hardware to wage wars against their governments so it is only right for the governments of these countries to seek help from the more powerful nations.

I believe the countries like France,UK and Germany have a lot of responsibility in Africa with regards to saving the weaker countries from the religious rebels.

By britexpat• 12 Jan 2013 09:44
britexpat

WHY ?

By BlueBull• 12 Jan 2013 09:44
Rating: 4/5
BlueBull

Malian military officials say the attack has stopped the offensive by Islamist rebels. The rebels, who control all of the north of the country, had pushed south this week, taking the town of Konna. Malian military officials say government troops have now taken back the town. This is a quick win already.

By BlueBull• 12 Jan 2013 09:42
Rating: 4/5
BlueBull

Mali is a different issue. French intervention was definately required.

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