Flydubai plane crashes in Russia, 62 passengers feared dead

Brit: I forget the exact numbers, but apparently, an unbelievably huge portion of the earth, skies and oceans remains uncharted and uncovered by satellite... The plane went down in a most remote part of the Indian ocean... Mh370 has already led to major pushes within the aviation industry for technology that connects a plane to the ground with constant updates and live streams... Each crash has improves things and lessons are learned... Small consolation to those who've lost a loved one though...

Yes Brit, what WT said... Even the aircrash investigation episode came to that conclusion as being the most likely... All transponders/communications switched off has meant only one thing in all previous cases; pilot suicide... The under water terrain they're searching is completely uncharted and with huge mountains, cliffs and trenches 6kms deep... Plus, if the plane hit the water in a vertical dive, it's shattered into a million pieces... So its likely not even a full wreck that's there to be found... The search operation has given itself until July to find the plane and are confident it's there in that last bit of search area to be combed... Lets see...I cannot wait I just can't... You should watch the aircrash investigation episode on mh370 it's the most thorough evaluation of all theories and possibilities yet...

WT: Our governments can track every little movement that North Korea makes , yet we're asked to believe that no one knows what happened to the plane

Investigators favor the theory that someone altered the plane's course and allowed it to fly until it ran out of fuel, but two years after the Boeing 777 disappeared from radar, that is still just a theory.

"We are no closer to understanding what happened and why it happened," said former Chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board, Mark Rosenker, who is now a CBS News aviation safety consultant.

There you have a "theory".

mohdata: What is your theory about the Malaysian Airlines plane which is still missing

Haha MM thank you for the highest carat rating:-)

Ata, How sweet ! .......... All 24 carat gold ................ admire your interest & the deep knowledge you've got ..................

for those interested in knowing...

pilots are under immense pressure from airlines...

especially low cost airlines...

a delayed landing or a reroute costs the airline huge money...

like, really huge money...

the gulf carriers are rich and put safety first...

but other carriers try at all costs to land the plane....

the air controller put the plane in a holding pattern/loop for 2.5 hours in the hope the weather would improve...

all other flights went to another airport but this one risked it and paid the price...

hope the investigation is over soon; they've found the black boxes...

i'm no expert, not trying to be a smartass, just love planes and aviation and sharing what i learned from this amazing nat geo series called 'aircrash investogation'...you guys should watch one of the episodes on youtube; its amazing you wont be able to stop watching...have fun everyone...

Timings in the media may not be accurate ............. I doubt that how pilot was trying to land for 2.5 hrs after the expected landing time ...............

We can't stop accident but can prevent their happenings with collective efforts .............. destiny can't be altered ........... reasons may be different ............ Almighty's will is above all .............. it will prevail ...................

The final call on whether to kNd or not is with the Captain

According to some report Air craft black boxes had been found sent it to the investigation department for to know the cause of mishap.

Mr.brite, Do u think that aircraft flying (Round off) above the landing area more than 4 hours? .and might be he had lot of pressure from either his controller or passenger.

If the visibility was so bad then why did he attempt the landing

At least the black boxes have been found

the boeing 737 - 800 reportedly crashed 50 -100 meters left of the runway during its second landing approach due to poor visiblity.

Good count , they are two, you are right { not three }.

When one man lied the truth came out about the two, lol. Thanks MM & mohdata for the high value info.

Ata, A million thanks for your balanced analysis about the WT { acchabaccha } and the planes ............

Even Brit is at the learning stage when he say high winds & rough weather has no effect for landings, I presume sweetly .............

mohdata. U ve cut wild turkey to size. I liked MM for avoiding to teach wild turky but u gave him a good lesson. thanks.

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Wt: Of course of course... Have fun you too....

It doesn't matter at all what you think, mohdata. You can assume whatever you want. Have fun.

Brit: Yup those are cross winds and any pilot worth his training can deal with it.. Its the invisible vertical forces that can throw or lift a plane several hundred feet without any pilot input... Takes skill and experience to fight that... And yes, I'm sure later episodes of aircrash investigation will feature this crash and identify pilot error as a primary factor, caused by secondary factors such as pressure by airlines on pilots to avoid delays, reroutes and diversions and the resulting monetary costs.... Its happened before and it will happen again...

Mohdata: I stand corrected. Strong winds and gusts are daily occurrence in the UK and Scotland. So often you see planes coming on to land fighting these gusts

Anyway, what is interesting is that the pilots didn't abort the landing and continue to a safer place nearby

Brit: As an avid ' air crash investigation' fan; high winds can be extremely dangerous when a few factors come together... They create vicious updrafts and downdrafts close to the ground during landing, which can and has completely flummox the newer generation of pilots that are so reliant on automation that their actual manual ' hand on control' skills leave a lot to be desired...

WT: You are equally guilty of all that you accuse MM of being; reading your exchanges on this post, I can't help but think you're a little boy on the internet... You even resort to blatant lies in your attempts to win these completely meaningless arguments with MM... You have flown planes you say?? Well I'm sorry to say, but some of the things you said about aviation; you wouldn't know what to do with a plane if it hit you in the face.... Oh and making fun of the Asian mentality while being Asian yourself? What a sorry sorry person you are...

Tragic .. High winds are usually not an issue - may the deceased rest in peace

Javed, Which people are you talking about ? ..............................

i hope people are safe...........?

Never mind, MM. A 737 will not get a "take-off" command if there aren't two pilots in the cockpit. It's a rule. But since you live in Qatar you probably think rules are there to be negotiated. It must be your Asian mentality.

I promise. .....................

MM, This vacation you check how many pilots will be flying ur plane, come down if they are more than one, lol.

WT, Very recently two pilots were so engrossed in their discussion { gossip } that they forgot to land at Mubai airport ......... believe me ..... they kept flying past the city for some minutes ....... so I would say one Pilot is more safer than a pair. ...........

I 'm happy with Quicky , thanks.

The cockpit crew for a 737 is two.

WT, For a 737 ............ one is sufficient ........... other one sitting besides him is to give him company { assurance } ..... and assist when required ....... .....

Normally there is no "single" pilot, MM.

WT, Saboteurs will too remain on the ground by choice ... as well ....... Now just think what a poor single soul { Pilot } would do if every body else is his enemy ..............

Sabotage, MM.

Good going MM n Wild Turkey.

Who is responsible for the remaining 9 % then ? .......................................

And as long as the investigation isn't closed NOBODY knows the cause. Not MM, not Quicky (funny name, by the way), and me not either.

Only 7% are caused by errors on the ground!

Again, Where are technicians from ...... who give faulty machines to the Pilots ........... they are on the ground too ............ !

Only 12% are caused by bad weather. The question is: what is "bad" weather?

22% are caused by mechanical failure.

WT, Lets remember to err is human ................ ........... be it in the air or on the ground ....... or behind the doors .................

WT, How could you say that ? ........... When a guest comes to your home .............. won't you get up & open the door my pal ? ........... Please see the realty ...........

Half of all plane crashes are caused by pilot error.

What a Reporter get for wasting his time & spoiling the topic. ?Hope his mind becomes pure by tomorrow morning.

I used to fly myself. If the pilot depends on the ground crew he doesn't know his job! He depends on his skills and the aircraft's gauges.

MM, I am of the same view also. Pilot depends on them fully.

Some times ground support is not upto mark ........... ................. in emergency conditions ...........

So sad to hear it. Bad weather is the culprit. RIP those souls.

Uh, maybe it's not possible. Flydubai is a 'low-cost carrier'.

The Boeing 737 was introduced in 1968 and has had 75 recorded crashes in the last 49 years. Maybe it's time that Flydubai buys new aircraft.

Lets wait for more details ........... Hope all the relatives are informed about the fate of their loved ones ..........

Humans have no control in such situations .................. RIP .........