Christianity - Convocation Gown -Any relation

probably, the choice of words was incorrect..

i dont understand why he called this a ' barbaric colonial practice'..

its certainly not uncivilised or unsophisticated...its a custom which may or may not be followed in free india.

do you guys know where the square hat comes from?

the heat got into him thats all.

Ok painther we'll both feel sorry for each other..Happy? :p

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Smoke, i told u already, dont try anything with me. im offcourse happy in my well, which i feel is mine; n feel pity for U, who live in a trench and dream of river!! pity!

lol I don't know why he decided to do it all of a sudden.

Ok so the whole world does it..it happens in every university...what went up his arse all of a sudden?

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lol I am not getting senti. For your other points, we inherited a lot from the British, some good, some bad, some that don't really matter. I wish we could get rid of the bureaucracy that Brits left behind more than anything else. Maybe the gown thing wasn't important when looked at in isolation but it's more of a symbolic gesture for me and I appreciate him doing it.

Anyways to answer the question to this topic..NO there's no relation to Christianity and the Convocation Gown.

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LOL I'm feeling sorry for you painther..perhaps English is not meant for you? be happy with what you think about me, your just a frog in the well to me at this point. Explaining my views on the subject is equal to hitting my head to a brick wall :)

WK my grandparents were farmers too and so were my parents too in their younger years, so dont get all senti about it..your family wasnt the only ones farming. But dont catch on to just one point of the matter here coz thats all you can read out of all that i was trying to put across. :p

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Good to know some 'real' people.

who use indian rupee but hate gandhi in DHOTI, may hate written satyamev jayte in "sanskrit", and India itself because it's all "farming' everywhere.....

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I just didn't like the comments about farming. India is an agricultural based economy and it is still the back bone of Indian economy. Come to think of it farming is the back bone of my family's economy too :P

Smoke, i know truth, no need to tell me.

to hell with traditions as far as i'm concern, only tradition is CHANGE, everything changaes and thats the tradition!!

I did not like some comments on very indian identities and only some1 falsly indian can comment so.

as far pants shirts.....who says it's any1 copyright property; clothing is routine, changes over period of time, else all of us may be using tree balks still...

Painther truth be told you and I would not be talking english had it not been for the British..save the sarcastic act. The pant and shirt that you wear is not Indian traditions..

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Wearing the gown is not a prerequisite to obtain any degree, but if its the rule of the university they yes it should be followed. A lot of traditions don't serve any purpose, so should all traditions be thrown out the window? How many Indians are truly following traditions?

Secondly my main issue with this topic was the title itself. The guy comparing the convocation gown to that of the priests and Pope..hence my earlier remark of him being an ignorant moron. I dont give a toss if people get their degrees in the nude.

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s_i,

aryabhatta?? who's that?????

nalanda/ taxsila....?? wats that?? :)-

..., Indian were living in Dark ages untill those 'enlightened' souls took burden to come and enlighten us....else we all must be doing farming may be hunting by now...\

gr8 smoke gr8!!! thanks for enligtening me!!

sanskrit???? ohh a poor language used by uneducated people....wah ji wah!!

Painther you are entitled to your own opinion as well as i am. So yeah you are free to not discuss this any further if my point is not getting to you. Dont get all sentimental about being Indian...i'm very proud of being Indian myself but some of these politicians just get on my nerves with their whole I want to be Indian but i like shitting in English toilets.

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Can traditions not be changed, if they don't serve any purpose??

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Smoke, I'm seriously taken aback, so won't discuss further.

Bytheway, by your new revelation, u must be hating Indian Ruppe too, right, YOU always see Gandhi in DHOTI.......

planning for changing to Pound sterling???

Stuck with Farming so you are saying farming is a backward thing to do, lol. I have no comments for that.

Is that tradition a pre-requisite for obtaining your degree?

this reminds me of a joke about an American and a Mexican villager.

You guys only seem to be reading what you like to see. Please read again..i have nothing against dothis or farming, but when universities have their traditions of wearing the gown to symbolize a person graduating in a particular field of study..you cant just say oh i dont want to wear it coz its something the British started. Thats bullshit. If any Indian would think like that they THEY should have stuck to farming and not got into universities. Thats my point.

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do you need a name for all those degrees.

How come Aryabhatta was recognised as a mathematician?

no, unless they wear suit (3 piece one), they are back ward; dont believe???? ask any1 in Oxford???

It was gandhi who was most backward wearing dhoti all his life...lol

lol painther they do keep telling me to come back and live in the village to enjoy real peaceful life. I sometimes wonder should I take them up on that offer.

Yes it's bad WK, you are backward (i;m not saying, smoke's version), even from same village you produced "Kalpana Chawla"..(indian must be knowing who she was)......:)-

You are going from one point to another, what was the first official degree given out in India? Which university?

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I'm taken aback to hear Bad about dhoti, sanskrit & farming, from an Indian???

R U sure Smoke, it's not just a slip of words???

Actually a lot of my family is still into farming and wear Dhotis, anything wrong in that?

If they all think its useless then why follow all the other western traditions/habits? Stick to dhotis and go back to farming.

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very good smoke, what a claim,

u mean there was no education/ including degress before oxford???

I thought in ancient india people from far use to come for studies to nalanda/taxsila....

Everyone applauded him when he did that so I guess more than one person think it is useless ;)

You are right, but i dont have a problem with the wearing of the gown during the convocation ceremony now do I?

If you read up on the history of this practice its got more to do with a color of the degree that you graduate in. Being that it was first started in Universities like Oxford and Cambridge and then continued there on since. all i'm saying is just coz ONE moron think its useless to wear the gown doesn't make it wrong.

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really, dhoti & chappls (plastic one) are the trademark of south.

dhotis only in north India not in the south.

british left india but perhaps they left you alone, smoke, you can follow them to get rid of dhotis!!

Its the same thing when you see people wearing suit in 40 degree heat.

smoke,

I won't comment on first part, since i don't know in detail, so obviously i'm not ignorant moron.

but for 2nd part-

for dhoti, farming & sanskrit, i suggest you should make urself right before making any comment. You are also the produce of the same and NOT coming from mars.

painther if you tell me that the convocation gown is similar to what the Pope wears then yes i'd call you an ignorant moron too.

I dont have any issues with what anyone wears, the English language was introduced to India along with other educations from the British times, why follow THOSE British traditions too? Stick to learning farming and Sanskrit too :P

Perhaps they should come in Dhothi?

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he has caught the ire of a few christians for his statement.

I like politicians who speak their mind and don't concentrate on being politically correct.

btw, why to wear that Gown while distributing degrees??

Is there any rule per law?

even I can't corelate it!

Am I also an ignorant moron, :)-

Nothing surprising in his remarks being a minister and all he's bound by law to be an ignorant moron.

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WK, now i can flag you, u used idiot & hell.

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btw who is jairam ramesh, ;)-

Jairam Ramesh did the right thing. All these idiots can go to hell.