Yet another Saudi cleric post...
Saudi cleric favours one-eye veil
BBC News 14:51 GMT
A Muslim cleric in Saudi Arabia has called on women to wear a full veil, or niqab, that reveals only one eye.
Sheikh Muhammad al-Habadan said showing both eyes encouraged women to use eye make-up to look seductive.
The question of how much of her face a woman should cover is a controversial topic in many Muslim societies.
The niqab is more common in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf, but women in much of the Muslim Middle East wear a headscarf which covers only their hair.
Sheikh Habadan, an ultra-conservative cleric who is said to have wide influence among religious Saudis, was answering questions on the Muslim satellite channel al-Majd.
Now ladies, what say you? :P
lol adey
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
lots of women bumping into things.......mabe men! Oh no! This is sure to backfire.
I claim the rights to the name first - 'Shoping Mall Pinball'(trademark protected)
:D
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
in the one eyed niqab
Men will get confused as to whether women are blinking or winking at them, and their passions will get the better of them!
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
How are you going to put magnets on a box?
Alexa: lol, don't forget they needed to choose what colour it should be, because some colours get more noticed than others ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
You could just solve the problem entirely and not allow women out of the house unless there covered with a refrigerator box and surrounded on all sides by male family members....but who're we kidding, women should have no reason to leave the house anyway.
Cover both the eyes and keep a Periscope under the veil
Brit: what has made you blush?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
You're right. i've seen some stuff in "shop windows" which made even me blush!
All very strange..
Abayas,stockings, high heels, suspenders..
Don't get me going ................
orthodox Sheikh?
He is voicing his opinions and suggesting that women wear the "Burqa" as worn by most Afghani women.
He is in a minority, so let him say what he wishes. It's only an ioinion remember.
Even more yucky. Look at the blown up lips.
yuck, indeed...
Yuck, why all that artificial smear in the face?
funny,.. never needed make-up to look seductive... :P
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good idea, MD...
beauty is appreciated when displayed...
Would it not just make more sense to ban Sheikh Habadan?
Would it not just make more sense to ban eye make-up?
When the Lord has given two eyes , how can a human order to use one eye ..
Instead of one eye veil , maybe its better to ban makeup ,this makes more sense.
castration is on offer if they can't control 'the urge'!
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
"The best way to predict the future is to create it".
Falling in place: I agree 200% with you
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
ameen to that falling in place...
You know I just keep wondering when male authority is going to stop fighting over women's bodies and leave us alone to take care of them as we wish. In contemporary time, with the so called clash of civilizations, the body of the Muslim woman has become the topic of the day both in Muslim countries and without. Its getting damned tiring to see the entire whole so concerned over what Muslim women put on or do not put on their faces, hair, hands, feet or whatever. If you read any of the literature when the British and the French first came to the Middle East in particualr you will hear the same old debates that we are living out today. White men, misogynist at home, but turned feminist when their feet touched the Orient, trying to save "brown" women. And "brown" men trying to protect their honour. Enough is enough. I would ask both the sheikhs and their counterparts( such as editors in certain danish papers) to turn their one eyed vengeance to their full time jobs like fighting over oil fields.
...so we'll leave the women on this one. LOL
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Similarly, said cleric could dictate that the women (who decline to cover one eye) should have one ear cut off as a penalty. Because EVERYONE knows if you cut of one of your ears you go blind in one eye, don't you?
And if you cut off BOTH ears, you go blind in BOTH eyes.
You ask me why?
Because your hat would fall down. Or veil, in this case.
Wow what a brilliant idea, to cover one eye, It will look like someone from the Jolly Rogger mob.
An overheard conversation concerning the said cleric:
"Besides, couldn't the women just wear sunglasses over the outside? They live in a desert I'm sure they wouldn't mind."
"How would they hold them on over the veils, elastic?"
"Well you could stick the arms of the glasses through the eye-slit to hook over the ears... Maybe, he doesn't realise that the women have ears? That's why he hasn't thought of this idea."
:D
Peace
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
I am aware of that. Nothing can be done to the past, but we can change the Present and the future.
I am not being cheeky, just honest in saying that Non-muslims already have that impression.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Its not implemented and it wont be implemented. This was just said by one cleric , not all saudi clerics.
Speed , what do u mean by their Islam and our Islam...Islam is one and it should be followed from Quran and Sunnah just like Hinduism should be followed from bhagvadgita , Vedas, Upanishads ,etc and Christianism to be followed from bible / Old Testament / New Testament.
Saying theirs and ours would make others esp non muslims get wrong impression...
This is what Dr. Bilal Philips about the face veil:
http://www.bilalphilips.com/bilal_pages.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=276
Islam is one even though these muttaween come up with these strange things and as you know always must be a proof from Quran or Prophet says but if you asked him about that I'm sure he doesnt has one, more than this the Shiekh who gave this fatwa can he force his wife and daughters to follow it nah I dont think so and for sure no one will force someone to follow it.
I think the problem is taking some cultural staff and make it as part of islam.
Islam is not accepted by many (not few) Muslims and they follow other clerics or the cultural things ....
So do you some point agree with you the Islam has been divided into many Sects ? so those Sects are their Islam ...
What i mean to say if he is giving fatwa and you ppls don't like it.. then who is forcing you women to do it ? now a days everyone has freedom and everyone know what Islam truly says .. so why to worry about his fatwa or such kind of fatwas ... Don't Worry and Be Happy ;-)
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Their Islam and Our Islam?
Yes Religion is personal, but when others start to force others to practice what isn't preached, then sorry; it cannot be acceptable.
Personal opinion.
they are happy with their Islam and we are happy with ours .... :-)
Same goes to others ....
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Lame. These men are too lame.
hey gd nite every one, have to go to bed!
traverling back home tomoro
didt get to meet any extremely nice people smile. any huups
i will be back in 10days.
i love ql and all the wonderful people here.
They meet you, fefee.
Doesn't have to be the whole guy, corleone, just the "main" part would suffice.
i was thinking of putting a pic of david hasselhoff for a while, but then figured that the avatar size was too small to display any sort of meaningful pic.
thax!!!!!!
was just wondering if you did!
where are these extremely nice people??? just dont get to meet them???:-(
from the store shelves... lol
fefee, I have to disappoint you. I have no German "friends" here. They are a bit too "German" for my taste. But I know a lot of extremely nice Qataris.
neeee! war eigentlich ne kompliment
hmm,, hab gar nicht gewusst dass du ne deutsche bist. wo sind alle schweizer?? kennst du ein paar CH oder nur deutsche und brit?
lg
I like your pic, corleone. Is that really you?
like the late Heath Ledger once said... "Why so serious?"
You can do that, Alexa. Feel free.
are you trying to insult me, fefee? Joking. Germany (Bavaria)
oops sorry germany or GB
ehehhe
funny
just looks like brit pit
are you from german or brit??
pls dont misunderstand me.
Yeah, and it's public property. You can do with it whatever you want.
md is this your real pic
They always banged against lantern posts, greentea. Too much cost for the municipalities.
with a face veil... why the sudden exposure of one eye?
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*shrieks in horror and dives under the bed*
maybe you should show us Alexa how it would look like...
come on change your avatar by covering your one eye with loads of make up... we'll see if they will still succeed in looking seductive ... maybe then the guys can help in deciding if women should cover both eyes to avoid seduction
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
i read his post... just wondering if it is offensive or because he criticized the clerics?
Alexa, stop reading my mind!
You miss so much, if you have only one eye. Remember Polyphemus in the Odyssey, the one-eyed cyclops. How could Odysseus fool him so easily?
did you notice?? or it's just my eyes playing trick on me???...
let me check my eyes, maybe i tried covering one eye while reading the thread
Diamond, maybe it's for the "eyes" on the toes?
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
WOW...are we talkin abt Lady Jack Sparrows here?? or is it Lady 'Silver's??
"Fifteen men on a dead man's chest Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum ..."
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I hate political jokes...seen too many of 'em get elected!!
MD, I hear there's a line of make-up coming out soon for one eye only ;)
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Did it also came with parrots in the mailbox?
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
diamond, don't use it, please.
corleone, "Die Gedanken sind frei". (Thoughts are free)
However, since thoughts are electro-magnetic events it might be possible in the future to build magnetic cages which will not allow thoughts to go any further.
aha! so that's what the eye patch that came in the mail is for...
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You need a special permission in Germany if you want to drive "one-eyed", for a good reason.
next someone will come up with one of those shock collars you see on dogs. Any impure thoughts and ZAP..
Having to use only one eye to focus on things.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
agree with Abubabu..but i thought its only face and hands.. i think these clerics should try it for themselves first before suggesting it, im sure if they walked around with one eye covered they wouldnt be so happy...
corleone, they probably will be unable to judge distances properly. So, actually there will be more encounters between the females and "obstacles" happening due to the reduced 3-D capability.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
i mean, at the very least, isnt it a strain on their eyes, with the differing contrast?
but no offense meant to anybody, im just expressing how i feel
should i laugh or should i cry?
im not a Saudi woman...
oops, that was for ladies only, heero!!
... and use radar...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach