Don't miss even a single word. Too good
An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new students to stand and.....
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof : Is God good?
Student: Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student : Yes..
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm? (Student is silent.)
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student : No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From....God...
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.
Prof: So who created evil? (Student does not answer.)
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them? (Student has no answer.)
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There isn't. (The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it . (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light.....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor.Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
good one
nice
Have seen and replied to this fwd at least a coupla times, so all I need to do is copy paste my own reply.
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First of all, faith is beyond proof.
Following a proof is not called faith, its called reason.
Secondly, if you check the reasoning given by the "student", he uses the following premises.
About heat and cold
This is where you resort to the Einstein's Theory of relativity which simply states that nothing is absolute, everything is relative. When you say something is x meters long, it means the thing is x times longer than the standard meter which has been defined as "the length of a metal rod kept in some institute in paris at Standard temperature and pressure." It is "relative" to something else.
When you say temperature is 25 degrees you have to say whether its Fahrenheit or Kelvin/Celsius without which it doesn't make sense!
This concept again has got nothing to do with god, but the student is only using it to oppose the principal's concept of duality.Again the student doesn't say anything about good and evil. He is only opposing that with arguments about heat and cold (which even science calls relative) to oppose the concept of duality without addressing the professor's question of good and evil, god and Satan!
(Btw, do you know that the fictional character 'Satan' was as harmless as Mickey mouse till 2nd century B.C when he was made into what he is today by a Jewish sect, the Essenes?)
Technically speaking, Humans didn't come from monkeys, as in; a monkey did not give birth to a human being one fine morning. But we belong to primates and followed the same evolution process. If you check the DNA of a chimpanzee, it is 98.4% similar to those of human beings. The theory of evolution is still under debate(meaning there are a lot of scientists who are sceptic about some postulates of the theory). So the professor was not teaching his opinion (as the student surmised), he was teaching a theory, or one of the theories rather, which tries to explain evolution. No scientist will ever say that Darvin's theory is the final answer to the question of evolution. It is a theory based on study of a lot of species around the world, which took Mr. Darvin 30 yrs of his life in the ship called H.M.S Beagle. (It did not take the clergy more than a coupla days to call it blasphemy without even bothering to see what it said.) Study of fossils, volcanic, oceanic and geographic data, study of cellular molecular structure of a large variety of species existing and extinct all point their fingers at evolution.
If you could discover things only with your five senses we would be much backward than we are now. A good chunk of science deals with hypothesis and assumptions rather than the five senses. How else do you forecast weather, solar and lunar eclipses? Atoms n molecules were talked about much before the invention of microscopes and such. There are things in science which are purely based on calculations, extrapolation of available data and assumptions.
But the difference is that nothing is based on pure faith.
Galileo/Copernicus did not say that earth was not the centre of universe by going into outer space! But they were convicted and punished by the clergy. Today we know who was right and who was wrong. If we had depended only on what faith told us, people might still believe that sun goes around earth!! "Every truth follows three stages, first it is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed and later it is accepted as self-evident!"
In fact most of the things that science has proved are not directly related to five senses.
The students question about the professor's brain can be adequately answered by a scan/EEG. And yes the brain can be touched, smelled n all that.
Student says, "ACCORDING TO THE ESTABLISHED RULES OF EMPIRICAL, STABLE, DEMONSTRABLE PROTOCOL, SCIENCE SAYS THAT YOU HAVE NO BRAIN, SIR"
Wrong!! Demonstrable protocol will definitely agree that the professor has a brain. You don't even need a scan/EEG if you are following a demonstrable protocol to prove the existence of professor's brain
Principles of duality or the five senses are not things that can prove or disprove existence of god***. They can only be used to use as premises to argue without really touching the subject. Here the professor's premises are wrong and the student is only opposing those premises without proving anything about the existence/non-existence of god.
Faith is the most important thing
love the counter-arguments!
Wish I could reply like that when faced with an atheist!
Nice read!
Ha ha ha aaaaaaaaaa keep it up ;)
Thoughts
thumbs up!
nice post....
good post,thanks for sharing.
TFS........
Wow talk about flawed logic.
Read it previously also..... Any way it was good...
great post
great post
great post
I have seen this on television once,on Sheikh Yusuf Estes's talk.
Gud one..
NICE
Subhanallah. Nice reply by that student. I would love to share it with my friends . Never mind. :D
Allah
very gud.. i likd it....
Was posted sometime back as a conversation between Einstein and his professor if I remember correctly.
Still worth a second read.....
talk about turning the tables... good one..