I am a chinese girl,i want to work in Doha
i am a chinese girl now working in shanghai for an American website:www.smarter.com i just graduated from university majoring in english,working in different country is my dream,can someone give me advice what job i can do in Doha,and is it hard to live in the city? are there some good websites for applying a job in Doha? thank you for your time!!
u duffer, this thread was posted in the year back 2007, your were sleeping till date, or waiting for a chance, like others in the queue except me!!
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Good Luck to you Maggie.
我是无意中为朋友确认机票来到这里的。看了你们的论坛,很为maggie着急。如果你实在想去,还是遵照上面朋友说的先去旅游一趟。的确不要一下陷得太深!
everybody discouraged you to come.
The goodness and evilness of a place is in the people who works on it. I think a lot have bad experience here and yet they are still here.
Come on, Maggie, find a way to go here but definitely the legal ways. I know how you feel there in Shanghai and opportunity for local Chinese there is to go out. I know what the local Chinese (specially the youth or newly-graduates)feels or eagerness to see the outside world whether to work or just tour.
Yes it's true that many chinese nationals here in Doha are giving China a bad reputation, but if ever they will experience living in Shanghai, they will realize that what they are seeing here is just the tip of the iceberg.
But a lot of young Chinese men and women worked with me and I know how industrious you people are. And if you are an english major, it means that you are prepared to work internationally. There is no harm in trying. I DO ENCOURAGED TO TRY AND LOOK FOR YOUR LUCK AND FUTURE NOT ONLY HERE BUT ANYWHERE YOU SO WISHES.
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
If you really wanna come here? Ask yoour self whay you coming here? Is it for money or career or change of lifestyle.
The obvious reason why every expat is here including my self is here is because of Money. The money is good and its tax free. But do explore all the options of a good job before you come..Good Luck
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HE WHO DARES WINS
Dear Maggie,
Don't waste your time and come to Doha if you don't have work experience and education.Don't u ever dream of coming if u don't have a job from an employer who will pay your ticket down here.Don't also go for any job in Qatar without a soild contract.It's true but bitter that Chinese ladies are looked down upon here cos some of them are seen around Ramada,Sheraton,Marriot every night.
Ironically, my wife is Chinese.She's an Architect so my friends and employers in Qatar respect her.Anytime she sees Chinese ladies hawking at night she feels very bad.
All in all,don't fool yourself and don't be fooled by anyone.Qatar is not that rosy as u think.Stay in Shanghai and go to better countries in Europe and America where u can develop yourself and at the same be respected by people.
If you still read this message and you still in China, you should come and find out yourself if this is the place you like to stay. 1 year or 1 month will not make a difference, the key is you want to see that guy right? and you want to understand his background because you love him so much.
just like whoever said, don't give your passport to your employer, come as traveller and feel the place. I just landed Doha and going to start my expat life here in a happy way. frankly, the weather, the envirnoment and anything else is not so flavorable for me, but financial reward is what I wanted.
To enrich your life please go to UAE in Middle East, Paris in Europe, NewYork in USA, HK in China, Tokyo in Japan. You won't enrich too much by coming here, cos working as servant, sales person or anything like this doesn't enrich anything in life.
Goodluck, just in case you are in Doha already let me know, we have a chinese community here ready to help new comers.
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~use soft words and hard arguments~
这里没有你想象的好. Ritz Carlton离我办公室很近,那里好像有些租车店,旅馆的配套服务.和阿拉伯人结婚需要很大勇气,对方家族一般不会希望出现这些的.
我来是公司派的.很苦啊.老被人当成中国鸡.这里东北鸡多啊,没办法.
上海我很喜欢,我是Shopping Animal. 但是我在上海时对当地人印象有些8好.对不起这么说,上海也有歧视的,和巴黎一样.看外边的人都是乡下佬.我还是喜欢纽约和我的成都.
要出来工作需要很大的勇气和牺牲,常年远离家人和朋友还有可口饭菜.一旦开头的新鲜过了就是苦.最少我很想快回我的成都.好在快了.
如果你有熟练的双语(双外语)和其他技能,出国工作很容易的.现在这里中资公司还是不少.我是做合同工程师.
不说这些了.总之我终于快回家了.
English Translation
Here you have not imagined good. Ritz Carlton leaves my office to be very near,There probably somewhat rents a car the shop,Hotel necessary service.Marries with the Arab needs the very big courage,Opposite party family cannot hope generally appears these.
I come am the company send.Very bitter.Is always regarded as by the human the Chinese chicken.Here northeast chicken many,Does not have the means.
Shanghai I like very much,I am Shopping Animal. But I when Shanghai to native impression some 8 good.Sorry such said,Shanghai also has the discrimination,Is same with Paris.Outside looked the human all are the countryside man.I like New York and my Chengdu.
Must come out the job requirement very big courage and the sacrifice,Year to year is far away the family member and the friend also has the delicious meal.Once began freshly is bitter.Least I very want to return to my Chengdu quickly.Was good in is quick.
If you have skilled bilingual (double foreign language) and other skills,Study abroad work very easy.Now in here the capital company many.I am contract engineer.
Did not say these.In brief I went home finally quickly.
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds..
这里没有你想象的好. Ritz Carlton离我办公室很近,那里好像有些租车店,旅馆的配套服务.和阿拉伯人结婚需要很大勇气,对方家族一般不会希望出现这些的.
我来是公司派的.很苦啊.老被人当成中国鸡.这里东北鸡多啊,没办法.
上海我很喜欢,我是Shopping Animal. 但是我在上海时对当地人印象有些8好.对不起这么说,上海也有歧视的,和巴黎一样.看外边的人都是乡下佬.我还是喜欢纽约和我的成都.
要出来工作需要很大的勇气和牺牲,常年远离家人和朋友还有可口饭菜.一旦开头的新鲜过了就是苦.最少我很想快回我的成都.好在快了.
如果你有熟练的双语(双外语)和其他技能,出国工作很容易的.现在这里中资公司还是不少.我是做合同工程师.
不说这些了.总之我终于快回家了.
I guess you didn't understand anything I wrote. I'm sorry you didn't get it.
After you're in Doha for 6 months..come back to the board in all honesty and tell us your new story.
La Jolla please talk to her in Chinese and tell her how I tried to help her.
I don't think she will see the light though.
我跟你写中文吧,一个阿拉伯人跟中国人结婚会是耻辱吗?我真的有点接受不了,可能因为我从来没出国,在上海看到各国人好像都很好,我好羡慕你啊,去过这么多地方,其实别人怎么看中国人我也不是很在意,但我就希望像你这样可以在这么多工作,有趣没趣是另一码事,起码你一生很丰富,你自己肯定也会觉得很棒吧。
其实我以前的朋友也不是阿拉伯人,是伊朗人,不过在多哈出生长大的,也属于被歧视那类,也没当真,太大男子主义了。对了,他说他在prestidge rent a car上班,在ritz carlton酒店,真的有这地吗?看看我有没有被骗,呵呵。。我真的不是为他去,去了我也不会找他,看了三毛的书想自己去看看那些带着白头巾的阿拉伯人有多坏。
你是怎么过去的啊,签证机票什么弄下来要多久多少钱啊?
你回国会在上海工作吗?这里真的很好,我太喜欢上海了,强力推荐你来,特别像你有这么丰富经历的人肯定会混得很好的。我在这里写中文肯定会被骂死的,你可以回到我邮箱里。
Maggie:
As a Chinese living in Doha I think Sage is NOT hurt you but protect you.
If you come here and dine out in Oasis Hotel ( there's a Chinese restraunt) then you will see how people think about you. I used to go there with my co-workers but now.... You bet!! Not any more.
Maggie, I honestly don't think Sage meant to insult you or Chinese people in any way, in fact I think he is just trying to warn and protect you : )
i really feel so unhappy about your words,i also don't know why you respect Arab so much and disrespect Chinese so much. you realy don't have the right to say Chinese people this way, if i go to Doha,i really want to meet you and beat you.of course i won't do it, i just want you know how angry i am about you.
you think i am still expecting something more from the relationship with the guy,and want to marry him,right?let me tell you,you are absolutely wrong,who do you think they are,if you come here,you will find Chinese hasband is the best in the world,earning money outside, also cooking washing at home,i heard that one man in Doha can have four wives.don't suppose Chinese girls want to marry foreigners!!
i think you must don't have the true love in life,when you judge a love, what you care about is just exterior factors.although i didn't contact with him now, it is not because the nationality.i am 21,he is 25,we are equal about everything when we are together, also we are so happy to talk about anything we interested.no matter what the result is,i cherish every friend and love.not WASTING TIME.
by the way,i know a Chinese girl marry a Arab,and the girl live in Doha with his family, and the girl said in her blog she is very happy now,and friend around her all treat her well,the only thing she don't adapt is just her mother-in-law don't allow she to wear bikini.
I have to disagree. I personally think fair and constructive criticism is a good thing and should be welcomed. You shouldn't wait to be asked for some. What would you do if you disapprove of one of your friends for a good reason? Do you wait to be asked for an opinion or do you criticize them exactly because they are your friends and you care?
I have to agree though that destructive critics, insults etc. are not acceptable, specially if you are a guest in some place you should show respect and if you don't like it you can always leave. Although I understand also that sometimes you may be really fed up and just cannot help it …
Hi there desperate girl. I can definitely help you out.
I can help u out with ur nite life.
Welcome to doha. I can help u out provided u have the ability to finance the house rent.
U r most welcome. I dont have any idea regarding prostitutes out here, anyways always respect the laws of the country u work in.
As a chinese girl living in Doha, I had bad/nasty experiences. So what you said is absolutly right. People argued with you is just people have no clear idea what happens daily here in the city we are living.
Maggie:
If I were you, I would bet to any other places rather than Doah. Sage778 is right: I have been offered several times money here in Doha while I was walking around my neighborhood.
I work: Luckily with a chinese company so I get desent income + allowance. But even like this I find out it's very difficult for me to work in this conutry ( I work in construction sector). You won't realise the difference cause back home is very common that female also work on site but here I have been considered as a Giant Panda.....as a engineer.
Shanghai is so lovely, I stayed there before, and if you do wish to change a country for any reason, choose any other places: Try Europe or US, I worked in both as I did enjoy my stay.
The night life in Doha is ZERO if you compare to Shanghai!! Shopping mall is Zero if you compare to Shanghai.
Only culture is WORK.
Dear Maggie: Think over before you jump.
A desperate chinese gilr in Doha
P.S: My company will transfer me back to China soon. The first GOOD news for the Golden Pig year.
No Qatar is not fair and just. Few if any place in the world is. There are many things here that are grotesquely unfair and there are many changes that I would like to see happen.
However, you always seem to concentrate on the negative aspects to the life here. There are many good things as well. This country is a work in progress, but it is not your country and it is not mine. If they want our criticism maybe they will ask for it and possibly they will listen to constructively made suggestions.
What doesn't help though is constant criticism by us know it all westerners. It achieves nothing but bad feeling.
Maggie, could you come on a short visit instead? Would that be doable for you? You come on vacation, feel the places a bit, the culture a bit. Are you still in good terms with this guy and is he in the country? If so maybe you can get to spend sometime with him in his environment … After that you make up your mind and decide if you really want to relocate here.
See, I understand the all toughening up thing in a hard environment, you are so young, sooner or later you'll find yourself in unavoidable difficult time/situations that will make you stronger. Just don't jump cold into this thing.
i still will try my best to reach my dream, i also believe a hard environment can give me a better chance to improve myself,learning how to be myself under pressure,learning how to live happily when i am really lonly,learning how to overcome different kinds of problems in a country not friendly to Chinese people.
the reason i why i choose the place is because i once love someone in the city, i just want to feel the city by myself, not because still love or hate him.i really have too much questions about the cultural difference,there are too much "why" in my head,i can't understand why he will think this way or say such word, so i want to find the answer by my own eyes,my own feeling.
i know i must do it,but i don't know when i can reach it, only God knows!
people are agreeing with me on what this girl should do and how she will be looked at.
But what is even more suprising is that the same people who agree will defend Qatar as being a fair and just place and that we shouldn't tell it like it is! lol
Rugby club, Ramada, Rydges are few places. If you fancy going to Ramada, most probably I will be there later tonight.
guys can any one tell where is the best place to go out 2night for a few drinks
Sorry Richard today have to work late to get a tender out. I will join with you next week. (:
its a bit cruel if u say here woman are going to be treated as prostitute. Thats not true! Maybe if you wear thick make up and bikini top to the street during the day time people going to shout on you and sah h***********rrrr..ehe eh..
So Maggie try your luck by posting your resume to every big company through their websites. good luck
hi guys hru? hope so good. do anybody know what is the good funny night club is in Qatar plz tell me? & what r the fees. Can any body tell me about OASIS hotel?
tanking you
hi guys hru? hope so good. do anybody know what is the good funny night club is in Qatar plz tell me? & what r the fees. Can any body tell me about OASIS hotel?
tanking you
Maggie my suggestion for you is not to come in Qatar. Here u will be treated as prostitue girl. As u told u r qualified & doing a great job but this is not a good place for u. Even if u want to come anyhow then dont think u wil get respect.
Wish u good luck.
Only people with 100 foot yachts or larger are eligible to join. No po' boys allowed.
richard I want to come too. SHould I bring out my yacht? Or will the speed boat be good enough?
you dummy! Its tomorrow evening at 7.30. You can come with me.
You forgot your agreement about u introducing me to the diving club. you morxn :)
Dear maggie,
I am from Hong kong. If you want to work in Doha, I can offer you a job in my company. However, it is always tough to work in my company.
Right now, all of my colleagues are from China.
In addition, what do you require for?
Thanks.
Oswald
I suggest you check everyday the classified ads in Gulf Times newspaper if you seek for a job. You can also check it on line, www.gulf-times.com. That's how i got my job. You can also advertise your skills, capabilities and qualifications for the Situation Wanted section.
You said you graduated with an English major, maybe you should try to offer English lessons to those who want to learn English. If you are focus on getting a job, you will probably get one here .Just be a bit patient for there is no such thing as "rushing" here.
It's true, life is not easy here. But you can enhance and enjoy your life here if you see it in a different point of view. If you take pleasure in small things like a walk in Al Corniche or
a monthly RVR ride in the desert, you will get by.
"How we survive, is what makes us who we are!"
Maggie, why Doha? Do you have any particular reason to pick this place among all?
but i feel dubai is better for all those...here nothing is happening
Oh, well in that case you're right. A lot of Western expats complain and moan, when they don't really have anything to complain and moan about.
Sadly, I think you are probably right. My comments were more directed at the people who do have the opportunity to experience good things here but instead choose to moan because they cannot reproduce their own countries and societies here in Qatar.
There can be some enriching parts to this country Richard and Liana, but do you really think that the same things that are available to you are available to a single young chinese girl?
I hate to say it but no Qatari's are going to offer to take her out to the desert (at least not for duning) niether are they going to take her sailing or diving. Unfortunately, regardless of what her actual occupation is, here she will be regarded as little more than a prosititute. :(
Undoubtedly you can experience new things and enrich yourself in Qatar, as in any other country for that matter, but the question here is another in my opinion. We cannot pretend there are not issues in this place, specially if you carry the "wrong" passport, so I think it is fair that Maggie gets the full picture, both the rosy and the dark side of Qatar. Then she can make up her mind.
This is a complicated society but it can be very enriching. Try spending a weekend in the desert with a Qatari family, attending a Magilist, learning Arabic, learning to dive, going fishing and sailing with Qataris.
I have done all of these things. It is not easy to make the connections, you have to make the effort but like many other things in life, the more effort you make, the better the rewards.
I think you do most things here that you can do anywhere else. I admit, I miss mountains and climbing and greenery but there are plenty of good things here and some very fine people. Just go and out and find them.
OUTER SHELL NEEDS MORE MONEY .. THIS COUNTRY IS FOR RICH PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND ON HAVING FUN .. BUT WUT ABOUT POOR PEOPLE .. DON'T THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE FUN THOUGH?
"Similar eyes are seeing similar things, in a different ways"
Lots of jobs....
Salaries in the same field vary a lot with nationality.
Qatar taxes income by housing rent (50% mininum) so if you manage to get a job make sure the company houses you or at least pays you the amount of your rent (even if it increases). You will need QR 1000 for food & other expenses if single. Anything above that you can save, depending on how much you want to save.
I would say the minimum one should ask for should be QR 2000 above the Rent, else you would be really wasting your time and youth. Although there are Construction workers who work for QR700 which would be roughly what they earn in their own countries.(SriLankans & Nepalis mostly come here to get away from the civil war in their countries so they are willing to work for so low.)
Qatar is booming in 2 sectors Oil/Gas and Construction. 1st is Nationalised so you may find it difficult to get into. The second is not a boom its a BLAST. Theres always jobs in Construction Companies. All other services are growing because of these two.
Sage I dont know how you can say those things about Qatar. I can only presume that you havent really bothered to scratch the surface of the country to get past its "outer shell", you might discover its not as empty as you think.
Do you know anyone working in Qatar?
Honestly, if you want to enrich your life then Qatar is the worst place I can think of, honestly.
Qatar is the definition of an empty shell. Nothing of substance here whatsoever.
Here you have an entire displaced foreign population - all here for working only! There is no culture here. Work is the culture.
As for the geography...the worst found anywhere in the world. No trees, no rivers, no lakes, no mountains, lots of traffic though, terrible climate, etc. etc.
Combine that with no fun at all, unfair pay based on your nationality, and the surrender of your passport.
If that is your idea of enriching your life... go for it!
… among all places?
Thank you for your advice,it is really helpful,Also,i have a different thinking about the city now,but if i have chance i still will go there.
the reason why i go there is not for money,and i can have a good life in China,and i only want to work one year there,i just want to enrich my life,know more about the world,like now,i know their attitude about chinese girls,hooker,i think there must be some Chinese people do it there, but not all!what others look at me is not important,the point is that i know what i am doing.
i know that is a rich place because of oil, but only rich material life,shanghai people is not that rich, but i really suggest they can visit here, they will know how wonderful this city is, how great the people is and how happy the life is.money is not everything, it is only one tool for us to reach happiness,and i am happy now.
people there can look down upon Chinese people,it doesn't matter,cause we are so proud of ourselves.
I would advise you to pick a different place. Many people will view you as nothing but a prostitute in Qatar.
Yes Doha is a tough city to live in and the cost of living will cause you to save little to nothing each month. Plus they aren't going to pay you what you're worth because you are Chinese. Chinese are put into the lower-income bracket in Qatar - that is just the way it is over here. Not fair, I know.
If you do go...don't let them take your passport from you because then you may find yourself working at the Oasis just so you can buy back your freedom.
I hope this helps.
Sage