Give me a reason to come back to Qatar
Ok, in an effort to change subjects onto something a little lighter perhaps we can all discuss what's been troubling me for the last little bit.
I'm not sure if I should come back to Qatar or not. I love my job there, and I've met some great friends, but at the same time I've been finding the conservatism of the country a little wearing. When I came home I realized how much I missed not constantly being in arguments or having to watch what you say or do all the time...Although in that case I could probably just stay off QL and I'd be fine.
I'm sure I'll take some flack for this, but can someone please give me a good reason to come back to Qatar?
Gypsy
I went through your different post, your personality is unpredictable. you are the only one who can make better decision for yourself and you’re enough wise to do it, Just take it easy enjoy the stay in Canada, come back to Qatar with a determination that if you don't like here , how long you gonna stay here.
that's for sure you cannot stay here for long time, better you make decision based on realties, job, career, and your priorities, at the end of the day you will be happy.
Any way I miss also Canadian summer
no
If it will bring you back...then it`s me...
38 years agoooooooooooooo.
Way to go dude! If that is your pic in the display profile, Gypsy would only love to come back just fer ya!
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I have been here (ql)for about 5 months and i can say your aperson with strong and determin personality,and you know exactly what u want..so it`s just amatter of calculation..just calculate it by apincel and aruler..
as the best reason for you to come back to doha...hmmmm...to meet me..:p
I know jauntie! We really do need to have a chat. We just seem to be talking to other people all the time. Next time you're mine. LOL
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
I have no words of wisdom for you, I'm afraid, but what I will say is that to date we have both been under the same roof on two occasions at QL meets and you STILL haven't chatted to me.
You CAN'T not come back here - I need to know face-to-face why you don't like me!
It's not all bad.
Although I'm a Londoner we moved to Bedford a couple of years ago.
Bedford probably has the largest Muslim community in the UK. We also have Sikhs, Italians, Poles ....
When the 7/7 thing happened, the local community formed a human chain from the Sikh Temple via the Muslim Mosque to the Anglican Church.
I felt very proud when I heard about that, even though I wasn't a part of it.
Please stay in Canada. We don't need you here. We want Qatar to stay pure.
Welll Gypsy.. seriously, I say it’s better not to come back.. You don’t seem very happy here.. You’ll live only once in this life so it’s better doing what you enjoy.
“ I missed not constantly being in arguments or having to watch what you say or do all the time”
LOL I had no idea you were watching what you say hehe.. I wonder how ugly would it be if you didn’t watch then! Lol
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I'm lacking participation in my confession booth, will someone please tell me why???
I'm bored out my living cells, Could someone tell me why?
Please people give me some attention I'm in need of a "CONSTRUCTIVE AND PRODUCTIVE TOPIC".
Spare my writing "Mrs. Gitana" with your following statement,
"but can someone please give me a good reason to come back to Qatar?
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds..
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I was born and live in the UK and I am ashamed of the way you have been treated on your visit. I have a little 2 year old boy and it frightens me too when we go out that we may get harassed. My family and I are Muslim, but I do not wear the Hijjab, but my sister and her husband are very practicing. She wears the Hijjab and he has a beard, they were both born in the UK and sound very English when they speak. But I have seen the way people treat them when they go out and the way they are looked at. I worry about what lays ahead for them in the UK. Every time there is a 'terror' scare
they always have to be careful because of the back lash from ignorant people. We are moving to Doha soon inshallah... I only hope it will be better, if not for me but for my son.
Thanks guys. :D I think I'm just experiencing vacation blues, which is a first for me. I've never not wanted to go back or go to someplace.
Barracuda, I don't know who you are, so why would I come back for you?
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
Gypsy you have one solid reason to come back. just one and only reason. you know what? it's ME. just come back for ME:)counting days 1,2,3,4........
Richard and Oryx, thanks so much for your concern (Oryx, I have replied to your kind pm). We realise it's the actions of a randon nutter. I simply won't hear of you apologising for such an idiot. Plenty of idiots bombing and murdering who call themselves Muslims. They are totally off course and confused to put it mildly. I hope by our non-response to the gentleman and by our general way of life we can show people the true nature of Islam. Though I am by no means perfect!!!
My kids don't want to go out today but we jolly well are, and right back to the spot where it happened. I will not let them be afraid by a random event!
Bath is wonderful...we try to visit whenever we are in London. My husband and I spent a few days of our honeymoon there and that's what my memories of Bath will always be!
Peace.
i have chosen to pm Diamond Girl with my thoughts
i would however like to express my regret and shame that this sort of behaviour happened
i wish i had been there... it is illegal to incite racial hatred in the UK and what this creature did could have got him arrested.
please accept a shame faced sorry - and please i hope you enjoy your holiday
gypsy
richard 123 is right - if you come to qatar its doesn't have to be for ever just come back with a view to looking out for pastures new.
you have a good job and lots of friends here...which is a really good foundation to look for somewhere new.
sometimes we have to work to get out of a situation..
i had to stay in UK to do my studies... i wasn't happy but it gave me the means to leave... it was a bleak year but well worth it now.
Well,,, I believe in what u say, but don't forget its the most safe and stable place, plus am here this good reason ;)
There is something that’s holding you back in Canada…what is that? Is that really worth than the other things you have here. You were really happy with your professional life here…..but your personal/Social life was not that interesting. Just think over, what is more important at this point in time?
On a lighter note, maybe in these 2 years you will find a cute loving Qatari guy of your choice…so think about it.!
Too cold. First snow starts in August. OK a joke but you know what I mean....
2 weeks holiday per year
So damn far from anywhere else. (except the empty bits of the US)
Dealing with Rogers
I'm not anti Canada, I like to visit but I just wouldn't want to live there.
Diamondgirl: Really sorry to hear about your experience in Bath, England. Bath is one of my favorite places in the world (I even have a house there). I am shocked that that happened to you in Bath. I have always found Bath to be a lovely, liberal and tolerant place. I hope that never happens to you and your family ever again.
Gypsy: You should come back. You have an amazing job which at your age, you would probably never get anywhere ekse in the world. In your job, you get to travel and have adventures and experiences that you could not have in Canada. Why not set a time limit on Qatar of say, two years. In those two years you can get a whole world of experience, have some fun and make your resume look very attractive for future opps. Also, the heat sucks now but in three months the weather will be great here and it will be cold and miserable in Canada.
Just my thoughts.
Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. Mahatma Gandhi
gypsy, i know a lot has been said here for you to think about (and all bears strong reasons for you to rethink over and over again)...
but, well, can you consider US as one of the reason coming back..:D (am dead serious about this huh...)..but am sure you will come back, you'll see..(you are just caught in this vacation syndrome as everyone of us feels whenever we return to mother land)..
Make sure in rush you dont make any wrong decisions Gypsy. Think about it again and again.
Reason for coming back to Qatar ME :D
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If you're tired of Doha and Canada, do something different. You're young and have no commitments. Now is the time to make rash decisions. In 10 years times, you could still be debating whether to do something more interesting, but by then you will look back with regret at all the wasted years.
--nigel
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I suggest you go to Paris. I know it sounds cheesy, but think about it. There is the culture, the people & the food plus there is an opportunity to find a job & settle(and maybe fall in love). You can always visit your family in Doha, but just don’t waste your youth here. Trust me you’ll regret that.
Common, at the end of the day, you know Qatar is a nice place. You have to admit that it's always changing, the country is becoming more open as time passes and there is a whole lot of potential.
I love Qatar :D
Oh and don't forget, people who have had bad experiences are always the most vocal.
As the old BBC adage goes, Bad news is Good news... for a news channel.
Gypsy I haven't met you, but the fact that you are thinking about a change probably means that you should start looking at it before you decide you HAVE TO make the change. Right now, there are jobs all over the workd to choose from especially for someone with international experience. I'm not saying you shouldn't come back (at least while you look around) but I am saying its time to look around.
I hope i was in no way responsible for this post. I really hope you come back. We would all miss you. but at the end of thr day, its your life and your call. Listen to advice, but the decision should be yours.
JoeCanuck, i am impressed. You give your arguments quite well. And welcome back to Doha, officially! Maybe you can join us Scarletts send off party. it could very well be your homecoming one too. Hope to see you there.
...no big deal...it's just life, eh...? Have a few Caesars while you're over there...(the Mott's spicy premade bottled ones are okey dokey with me)...damn...I think I missed them the most...that, and pork...and my mom too, I guess.
I never missed Canadia until I went back and saw it with fresh eyes, (the ones at the market were getting stale....). I'm not worried about going back because I can always leave again if I so choose.
Airfare is cheap and I'm easy...life is good...
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I don't have to be #1, I just have to be...
Any tool can be a hammer...
Once I get back and get things sorted I will be fine. I think I'm just dreading coming back and getting things sorted. It's not going to be fun or easy. :(
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
get your rear end back here just to piss off people!!! Just kidding..seriously...stay away from this place for a day or so..get out, see what your attitude is after that. You know what happened to me the other day..I PMed you about it. I stayed off for a day and it made all the difference inthe world with my attitude..I just said screw it..I'm BACK!!
Vacations are notorious for bogging us down with the "I don't want to go back but I don't want to stay either" syndrome. if you are staying with your parents to gather up enough income to move where ever you choose, then finish what you started and get it all together..then make a decision. Its really hard to start off with not enough to be comfortable as you start off in the hole and its really tough to dig your way out when you can't even afford a shovel.
You have the intuitiveness to do what ever you choose in life. Take time to plan out what you want and go about it. Five years is not a long time in the big scheme of things. Trust me...it goes by in the blink of an eye. With what you do, you can set up a fine resume and get experience in the field that you enjoy working in. Dang..i sound like a mom, don't i? lol You know I'll do anything in my power to help you out when you are here. Hope this makes sense...besides..if you don't come back, how are my sons going to get to meet you in Dec??? ;)
...travelling yet, either. I have no idea how long I'll go back to living in Canadia. Maybe all it will take is one winter to get me the hell back on a plane.
The difference is that since I have been 'away', I know it will always be out there, available to me whenever time and/or circumstances allow.
Me going back had nothing to do with Doha. This just happened to be where I was working when I made the decision.
There are always second thoughts...or at least there should be. It wasn't an easy decision to give up working in an area I've been for 5 years.
Neither place is a prison for me...I can come and go, mostly, as I please. The rest of the world isn't a mystery anymore; it's just, "over there...".
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I don't have to be #1, I just have to be...
Any tool can be a hammer...
Hmmm, I don't know if I'm done travelling yet or just done with Doha. But I hope it all works out for you Joe. ;D
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
...I just came back to Doha after spending almost 8 weeks in Canada, visiting family and friends.
I have spent all except for a bout 12 weeks out of the past 5 years travelling the world. It has been awesome. Something happened this time back, though; I didn't want to leave.
That surprised me very much. I've never seriously entertained that notion before. The more I thought about it, the more right it felt, to the point of me giving my notice to the company in Doha. This will be my last shift here.
It wasn't just one thing that led me to my decision, (as I sit here wide awake at 12:30am because of jetlag), it was many things; seeing how grown my nieces and nephew are, seeing how old my mother was getting, realising I've become weary of constant travel, missing having a home, the company I work for in Doha totally pissing me off, realising I didn't feel that my life was in danger when driving back in Canada...and a few more.
Now that I've travelled and seen so much, it has taken the urgency out of my need to travel. I'll never see everything, and it seems alright not to. Where I used to cringe at the idea of coming back to the same home in some boring neighbourhood night after night, I find I'm looking forward to it.
I could change my mind tomorrow...but I doubt it. Doha, or somewhere like it, is just a plane ticket away. I've earned skills overseas that can help me make a good living back home.
Who knows...? Maybe in a year or in the middle of a -40 blast I'll regret my decision but if it gets bad enough, I know I can always leave again. I can always do shiftwork; live in Canada and work overseas, if I truly miss it enough.
I'm moving back home. It feels right...at least for now. Perhaps this is not the time for you to move back...maybe that time will never come. If you do, though, it's not a prison, like it seemed to me when I left. The rest of the world is only as far as the nearest travel agent.
Good luck.
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I don't have to be #1, I just have to be...
Any tool can be a hammer...
Where is it that guys are treating me like a Goddess?? Defintely not Doha, which is a good thing, cause it would drive me nuts.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
*Create your own destiny,fighting against your dark sides,raise your
spirituality.Every day is a new day.A new life.
Keep the faith!*
im off to bed ppl.... gnite alll
Yeah tht is a killer ... Im locked up at work till around 5pm so after tht its pretty descent... Im sure ull b glad to b back to guys treating u like a goddess n stare like ur d only woman alive :P hehehe god im not helping am i
I thought it never got to 50 degree, officially.
Call me Maninibat!
Believe me R7, Ql is really not bothering me that much. I'm more dreading coming back to 50 degree heat.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
Losers always fade away, n if they don't we'll send the official QL Mafia after them, seriously though y u letting it get to u so bad... u know ur way ahead of all the lame a s s e s s who keep posting there crap .... Ur on vacation so take a break n let all the QL Crap flow like some spicy indian food :)
I know what I'd be enjoying if I was in Canada and not here lol
and don't stress over haters... I got tired of caring what smack talkers think a long time ago
they need constant attention. so ignore them, and they go away
But you know they will.
Be like willow, without the weep.
Call me Maninibat!
I'm not sick and tired of QL, I'm sick and tired of 2 people on QL who seem to have nothing better to do with their sad little lives then pick apart my posts and call me names. I'm hoping if I ignore them long enough they will go away.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
ummm what's up ducks ?
If u were so sick n tired of QL y would u b here saying this G !!! U know u like most of the ppl here n all the crazy conversations xcept for the occassional confrontation.... As far as living here goes... We all miss were v r from originally but now after 17 yrs Doha is Home to me .. India is a country i just go bck to chill out n have a good break... Im sure ur really really confused ... In the end u gotta know ur whole life could change now based on what u decide to do.... One good reason to b back ME !!! : )
What are you enjoying that you can't get in Doha?
Call me Maninibat!
So a little bit of Doha is everywhere.
:-D
I hope you can enjoy your time home.
Regards from Swiss.
*Create your own destiny,fighting against your dark sides,raise your
spirituality.Every day is a new day.A new life.
Keep the faith!*
A bit different dg ? Very different! It's sad really cause it's not true! I wonder where it'll all end up...dare I ask ?
Diamondgirl, I came home to discover that all of my best friends were hanging out with a group of guys from Saudi Arabia. I was like....wait...have I left Doha????
Things change faster then you think.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
Hi Corne, yeah it happens the world over. In London recently (not this trip) I was spat on and called a dirty Arab if I remember rightly. But I lived there for years when my brother was sick and nothing happened. Post 9/11 media world is a bit different.
Well that, and in Qatar I'm having a bit of a personal crisis, and here I'm not. LOL. It's always easier to run away.
I think 3 weeks is about enough time to be feeling some major reverse cultural shock, and that's whats happening.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
yeah, gypsy, it's probably something to do with switching between the two cultures...and adapting to each one. pros and cons isn't it?
Hope you enjoyed your afternoon pump in the tea rooms.
Call me Maninibat!
I don't think theres anything wrong with you at all Bajesus, ya know I think your awesome.
DiamondGirl, the conservative nature of Qatar really started bothering me....hmmm let's see....3 days ago. LOL. I'm really a very adaptable person and until I got back I'd forgotten what it was like to be in a liberal country.
Actually now that Novita and Scorpio said that they felt this way about coming back I'm not feeling quite so upset.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
Sorry to hear about ur experience dg, but it happens, and it's good that u didn't take him seriously. What doesn't kill us, only makes us stronger right ? Though if he told me that, I would've kicked his a$$ lol.
Tough situation ur in bajesus...but we still love ya! (even with ur bitterness hehe)
I think Gypsy you should get a day or two off on QL. I am sure you yourself know the reasons to be here in Qatar or to leave it (Go thru older posts like 'what do u like abt Qatar' or 'What do you miss').
Close QL window and open that of your home, if weather permits!!
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S'OK JBH. We perked up again by having afternoon tea in the Pump Rooms.
Not the best of days though.
I wish I could migrate there one day...that would be my dream come true. Seriously though, if you think things are weary for you then you should try putting yourself in my shoes for once. On one hand my non-Qatari friends would often tell me that I'm either spoiled or narrow minded and just generally being felt different cuz I'm local. On the other hand I'd be berated by fellow Qatari's because to them I'm "different" and not coservative, religious or patriotic enough! I wish I could leave all that confusion behind me but I can't and that's why I'm bitter!!!
You'll be fine Gypsy...If you decide to come back to Doha, take a couple of days off, drink some Pina Colada's and chill!
Or you can always go camping in the desert. DaRuDe is always up for that. Just ask him ;)
Didn't mean to sound harsh.
Call me Maninibat!
And this place depresses me all the time.
You will probably get itchy feet if you don't go back.
Call me Maninibat!
thanks Novita for the concern. sorry JBH for being so bad by going off topic. you a moderator now are you?! it shook us up a bit because a parent's wish is that their children would never be exposed to such things.
Personally, if I didn't have to stay here I wouldn't, and it's not because I don't like the country, I do like here, but I would want to see the rest of the world.
U already know the reasons of why u would come back to Qatar, and u also know the reasons of why u wouldn't. But think about this...would living here for 5 more years (or whatever time period it is u plan on staying) make u happy? Or would u constantly be thinking of the moment u get out of here?
Life is too short. Do whatever makes u happy.
Oh and don't worry about the depression thing, I was depressed for 2 days before and a week after getting back!
"I'm more concerned in what the western media are doing if that is what his opinion of arabs is based on."
----> i dare not to discuss another critical topic again on this board. But everywhere you go the media always bias. I will stop the sentence there, wil not continue it.
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you're always going to get a few nutters wherever you go, aren't you? can't take it that seriously but for a split second I did want to shake him down for upsetting my little ones. but we ignored.
I'm more concerned in what the western media are doing if that is what his opinion of arabs is based on.
'f%#k off back to where you came from you bl&*dy murdering Arabs'.
-----> what did you say back to them? It is horrible. I guess they don't even been to 'an arab country'. Btw ... how old is your kids DG?
"Novita and Scorpio, so you're saying it's not just me?? Ok that's good to know."
----> yup ... cheer up. It is not only you. Happen to me on every hols. x
Faint hearts never won fair maidens.
Anyway, I was banking on you to show my girls around when we [eventually] arrive.
One 43 yo [going on 17]
And one 17 yo [going on 43]
Both strong and wild, but a little scared.
Yeh, stey another year so we can use you as a guide.
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Hi Gypsy, to be honest and helpful I don't really think that Qatar is the place for you if you are having problems with the conservative nature of the country. It can't be good for you psychologically if you feel that you cannot express yourself or live the lifestyle you wish in Qatar. If you have some other options then maybe they are worth considering seriously. No-one would want you to be unhappy, least of all yourself.
I gather from other postings of yours that you live with your parents in Qatar. How does that work for you? Perhaps that makes you feel better having family around but perhaps you would want to live alone or with roomate?
I guess what I am trying to say is that you need to give it serious thought...and planning.
On a lighter note, I had an episode of the reverse of how you are feeling today. I wished I was not in the 'west'! My family and I were walking around the city centre of Bath, England. A guy was harrassing us and following us. We were choosing to ignore him. He got ahead of us and said, 'f%#k off back to where you came from you bl&*dy murdering Arabs'. Charming! We did see the funny side of it after some time but at that moment I wished i was back in Qatar! Two of my children were upset for a while.
because its not everyday you get to tell people that you're the only pretty white girl in the entire country!LOL :-P
Novita and Scorpio, so you're saying it's not just me?? Ok that's good to know.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
I'm the Queen of the snap decision JBH, I never think anything through. :D
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
I think you should maybe stay in Canada for a little longer (if you can) to sort things. It will be easier doing it there where you have friends and family.
When I went home early this year, I cried when I went to the airport coming back here. Once I was here again I settled back in after a week or two and it has been fine.
Doha is very hard for single woman. I know plenty that have left for the same reasons you mentioned. 5 years is a long time to be on your own in a foreign country!
Thanks Gypsy Gal. :) The thing is I've been thinking perhaps I've been living with my family to long and I need to be on my own again.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
If you are unsure then just go back.
But look for some where else when you do.
Get excited about the prospect of moving on.
Snap decisions can backfire, but they can be exciting ;)
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everytime i am on hols the last 2 or 3 days i always feeling depressed knowing i have to go back to the sandpit. But once i am here and do my own routine i am fine Lol.
Cheer up girl...you really dont care all these silly things..its just because you are low now you get these feelings.
As Novi said..maybe long term stay wont be a good idea but being with your family is always a plus
Come backkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.
Well that's the thing JBH, they are both old pastures! :D
No it probably wouldn't make a difference, I know in my heart that I have to go back to Doha, I just wish someone could give me a reason to be thrilled to be going back to Doha.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
I mean, could you be influenced?
You seem to be a person who knows her own mind.
Pastures new?
Or back to the same?
Make the most of it whatever you do.
You only get one crack at life.
Over to you Pikey.
Call me Maninibat!
I am feeling a bit down. The problem is not going back to Qatar is a big kink in my five year plan. But I really feel like they are going to have to drag me kicking and screaming to the airport. :(
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
it seems that you feeling really down Gypsy? i do think ( i know i already mention it to you) staying in Qatar too long for single girl like you would be a waste of youth.