Horrible Experience at Dr. Khudsia Clinic...

I think we should open these types of threads and then email or send them the printout of it so that they come to know how ppl think about them....

It will be good that someone make list of greedy doctors with no symphaty. so all Doha residences can aware of them. All of us spend a lot of money and get bad service. Don't they shame for this?

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SAME THING WITH DR SUSANS DENTAL CLINIC...SHE IS VERY RUDE AND THE EQUIPMENT AINT CLEAN AT ALL THEY DONT STERLISE EITHER....

IVE BEEN BLESSED 4 HAVIN U IN MY LYF, IF I HAD THE CHANCE I WUDN'T HESITATE 2 MAKE U MY WIFE.

"I came in to make an appointment with the dentist Gadarene." said the man to the receptionist." "I'm sorry sir." she replied. "He's out right now, but..." "Thank you." interrupted the obviously nervous prospective patient. "When will he be out again ?"

the sooner that happens the better...one only needs to look @ Dubai to see how competition in every field has shaped the market to be the cutting edge one it is today,as oppossed to these clowns who keep this town shut off from everything & think they're being smart...anything but IMHO...

but the competition is hotting up! some poor old outdated practitioner will soon lose the customers!!

@ a private practice,the doctor is responsible for EVERY aspect of the practice...to say the doctor is good but receptionist is bad doesn't make sense...the doctor is responsible for the conduct & professionalism of ALL of his/her staff...

@ Angelina,the standards are set by the health authority of the respective country & it's upto the same authority to ensure standards are maintained...however the problem in this instance is more because of a lack of choice,which is pretty much the story in this town for most things...to illustrate,people were always complaining about Qtel,how their international calling rates were daylight robbery,how their customer service was non-existant etc...notice how Vodafone's entry into the market,partial entry @ that,has seen a very different Qtel emerge,now one has 0.29dhs/min. calling rates,super prompt service on giving a complaint(personally experienced this & was pleasantly surprised!) etc...it's the same story here,this Dr. knows she's good & has created a reputation for herself & knows that people will put up with whatever she dishes out in terms of customer service simply because,they don't have a choice,just so we're clear,i think that's deplorable to say the least,i'm guessing she missed out on the morals & ethics classes in med. school...

As I told that if doctor has no system for her patients, sorry to say I have a doubt on her professionalism.

Again I will say that who is the owner of that clinic? Who will guide and set standards for her receptionist.

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@ keeley,the prosecution rests your honour...*wink* :)...

I feel someone has a rather large French Fry on his shoulder............

I wouldn't trust any doctor that worked alone! Who the hell sets their standards?

Your name is mud. Familiar with the idiom? I thought you were mature.

.. actually.. the fault is with the RECEPTION system...

i have had bad experiences with the doctor's reception myself when i went there with my wife.... but when u get to the doctor u forget all about it coz of the way SHE treats you(my wife rather) ....

she's a really good doctor with a BAD MOUTHED, DISRESPECTFUL, receptionist. I have even complained to the doctor about it... !!

"Asian doctors now form nearly thirty percent of the workforce of the NHS. For the past 40 years, South Asian doctors have provided the backbone of the NHS caring for some of the most deprived communities in some of the most vital medical roles. Most were never able to fulfil their career aspirations and ended up working in the 'Cinderella services' of the NHS - mental health, learning disability, general practice and unpopular medical and surgical specialties. Although the NHS is seen as a peculiarly British institution, embodying the values of community and fairness, the contribution of Asian doctors to the NHS has never been acknowledged. It is only now as they collectively approach retirement that the contribution that they have made is being recognised."..copied & pasted from my link...paragraph no:6...you have to actually read the article to find the statistics mentioned or did you think the link was going to be a one line sentence in capital letters with the statistics mentioned?...this isn't primary school reading,it's a medical news site but of course you know that because you've placed a link from the same site as your proof right?...now if you would be so kind as to copy & paste the portion of your link which you claim is your proof,just as i have above,i would appreciate it...please & thankyou...

The link to the article you quoted do not have any statistics 'mate'. You are wasting everyone's time 'mate'.

@ Keeley,erm we're talking about Asian doctors in the NHS not about a staph. infection which has nothing to do with the topic whatsoever...simply going to the same site i quoted from & picking a random page & posting it as a link isn't what i asked for...so if you have something concrete,bring it on...otherwise you're wasting time...both yours & mine...

One thing to add about Dr Adnan, he is the best Dr I have seen ever. But, his waiting room is always SO cold! Take a jumper and socks with you! But if that is the worst thing to say about the experience, it is not so bad...

as recommended by my friend and never came back again for follow up simply because of a very long hour of waiting.

since they do belong in ALLIED Sciences Career - she should take some tips from Dr. Prince Varghese of Apollo Clinic... who has very excellent ETTIQUETE on treating patients... regardless of who you are...

I know Dental Doctor is really different from Medical Doctor... but i guess - they main concern is to help and treat sick patient/s...

keep up the good work DR PRINCE...

Thanks a lot for lots of comments. In fact, this is very important for any society, i.e. check and balance. It shows that people are not dead yet by their souls.

jackmohan2007:

Till now I liked Doha Clinic system, at least you know that how much time left for your turn but what if you waiting for your turn and someone else come and take your turn just for few additional riyals. Then it means the people that cannot afford higher fee, never see the doc because it is Qatar dude.... Qatari will always take ur turn by paying higher fee. This practice couldn't be appreciable..... otherwise there will be a disaster in the society...

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is based in full fledge villa with several rooms to check patients. She was having a small place in Al Sadd where patients have to wait outside the clinic for long, experienced once 5 years back....

nothing personal buddies, but we have to pay for the Best either in cash or kind (valuable time)!

waited for almost 3 hours for my wife once....

reached around 4.15pm and got some number called at 7 pm.

Fortunately, she is the few who knows her job better than others.

Actually, came to know that certain Qataris send their drivers around 3.30 pm to collect the numbers and come to clinic only when their numbers called.

here is the link: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/22569.php

@ keeley http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/22568.php & yes also my colleagues working in the NHS in the UK. One would think that a person working in an organization could be a reliable source of information about that organization would they not?...so there's two sources for you...now,to repeat myself,where is your link to prove my statistics wrong?...

najamms do let us know about the complaint.....waiting to hear from u...

had the same thing in Doha clinic.

therefor I said I wait at Hamad Hospital for the same amount of time but free of charge better than paying for it.

and I am happy with the Gyne Doctor over there.

Try Dr. Omar Clinic. he is good too & you don't wait that much. and they go by numbers & you pay after you are done with the consult.

husbands are allowed in for the whole exam/consult. consult includes: ultrasound, written report, photos on CD & Urine test is about 300QR.

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gadarene mate or sandeepkadian mate , You cannot be enlightened. Where are your "reliable,official source of course?" your friends working in the UK?

gadarene.....yeah you are right...People skills are something thats never taught in any schools .....at least in India.

Hi All,

The waiting experience was terrible for me too in Khudisia's clinic. I had consulted Dr. Khudusiya for my 2nd pregnancy. The dr was good. She was in Al- Saad area at that time. When I got pregnnant agian I tried her new clinic in Al-Waab. It was terrible. So I switched to Al- Ahli Dr.Sujatha. She is very good & I could see her on time of appointmaent itself. I suggest if you cannot afford delivery in Al- Ahli you can go To Hamad & if you want the pregnancy care go to Dr.Sujatcha in Al- Ahli. The pregnancy care in Hamad is not that good as Al-Ahli. I ahd experience in both hospitals. I deliverd one in Hamad & one in Al Ahli in 2years gap. If you want to see a dr, need to be there in Women's clinic by 7:00AM. I think the things will chane with the new appointment system.

@ jackmohan, a lot of Indian/South Asian doctors/dentists i'm sorry to say do lack people skills simply because it's not something that's taught or even advised in medical/dental school...the ones that realize it pick up these skills during practice but many don't & therein lies the problem...a Brit-Indian colleague of mine who studied with me in India then went back home to practice in London failed his lisencing exam the 1st time despite getting everything right & when he received his report,the reason was given as not appropriately greeting/interacting with the patient before starting treatment...it's something we South Asian doctors lack but fortunately things are changing slowly but surely...

I just recalled a case about my dentist in Mumbai, India, (the guy was a very friendly person, and explained everything throughly, and also knew his job well). The guy used to see about 100 people every day! And he was very fast also.

I, myself have recommended him to 7 to 8 of my friends and they too were very impressed with him.

So when I was with him doing my root canal one of his colleague a very pretty female dentist comes in and cribs about how few clients (only about 5 to 10 clients per day) she has and how come he is able to attract so many. He had no answer. Looked like she was even jealous of him. But then I realised that the female though pretty was quite unfriendly and just wanted to get the job finished with. Interacting with people was just not her forte.

Kudisia's Clinic reminded me of her.

It is very bad but thanks for informing us by the way you should talk to Dr. Khudsia,

She was good when the clinic was in Al Saad but now she need to pay more money for her new place so that’s why this new arrangements. hahahaha.

najamss..if you are No 25 at any clinic in Doha ...then you are in for a long haul.

It looks like the "Begum" has her rule ...ie if its normal visit you Pay the normal fee but if you want to make it urgent (and go home fast) you pay Qr200. Looks fair enough.

I have been there and the wait is toooo loooong. (Cant the lady hire some junior docs for the smaller cases?). Its crazy and gets on your nerves......

And as a rule if the working time is 4-8 you better be there at 3.30.

And about the Doc in question. She is average. Looks like she knows her job but other than that nothing Great.

But then the "Best Doctors" usually have very good "People's skill" and are very friendly. I feel Kudisia doesnt have that.

Labda- rightly put, tired of it ..lol

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Well then Keeley,you should enlighten us with the correct statistics...along with a link to a reliable,official source of course...

@ thesmasher,erm,i was actually countering the racist post made by another person who said & i quote "i wouldn't visit anyone by the name of khudsia begum!"...i replied to that saying that it was a racist comment to make,so if you're truly against racism,you should direct your reply to the person who made the racist comment in the 1st place NOT the people countering it...please & thank you...

I never even know that we can pay more for the speedy service. When I was there about year ago it was my first and last I just waited until I could not wait anymore. I wonder if any body ever need to use the bathroom. That was the most un plasent bathroom smell in the DR office.

gadarene, your statistics are still incorrect about NHS.

Stealth,

Who is the owner of that place? Who devised the system of that clinic? Whose pocket is being filled? Who is responsible for her staff's behavior?

Ok Smasher so I am a cheapster???? Where did I post any racist comment anyway????

Well enjoy yourself if that thought makes you happy..

When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity. - Albert Einstein

huuuuuuuaaaaa,i donno wats the prob wid these cheaps oh sry, i mean chaps,gadarene n sandeepkadian..just keep this bloody racist arguments outta this post..

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if u dnt ve to say anythng,dnt say anythng!

She is my OB-Gyne Dr., actually she charge 100/consultation, but I paid extra 100 for urgent consultation,(thouch its not an emergency case), only if I dont want to wait the long queue. But I still ended up at Women's Hospital for further exam.

@ Angelinaballerina,yes you're right...the correct info since you've chosen to nitpick...30% of NHS doctors are ASIAN...MANY of whom are MUSLIM & that's just the NHS,the figures are higher in private practice since Asians are a stingy,money grubbing lot right? so obviously they'd opt for private practice where the money's better...i'm a South Asian dentist & i have many colleagues from uni. living & practicing in the UK both in medicine & dentistry & as GP's & specialists & the ONLY people who would base their choice of doctor on the person's name/nationality/race/religion are racist bigots...look in the mirror,you'll see one staring right back @ you...if you want to be racist that's your choice,my request is this,please don't mask it by insinuating something ludicrous like being able to judge a person's professional capability based on their name...

Agree with Jasmine...Dr Adnan is the best of all:)

blame her secretary for that? why blame the doctor?

gadarene.....wrong info......luv....

if you have money you will be the prince .....

Haven't been in this clinic...will try to visit this in the future to see it by myself...but if it's really the case, I suggest najamss to take this matter to Ministry of Health asap. This is the best timne to take up this matter to them...Good luck guys...

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gadarene... 'mate'.

@ sandeep,not scotland yard mate,more like MI6...

Keeley you are so smart, you should have been with scotland yard..

Hey Hey!!!! Guys.... This post is not created for racist comments.....

@ AngelinaBallerina,you don't seem to be getting the point here luv...1st off,are you English?...because there are in all likelihood more NHS lisenced obs/gynae specialists named khudsia or begum or one of many similar South Asian muslim names in the UK than there are named Jane Doe,the NHS is primarily comprised of South Asian GP's & specialists,MANY of whom are muslim & do have names like the one in question...so unless i missed something,your point is what exactly?...

@ Keeley,spot on,absolutely 100% correct,full marks AND a star for you,good girl...or boy(as the case may be)...

@Sandeep you're "posessed of inferiority complex" (sic!)you & me both...sad huh?...*wink*!!

AngelinaBallerina..."At least one knows they have been properly trained in their respective specialities" And how is one sure of this? Bollocks! I know a Brit dentist here who is basically wanted back in the UK for practising without a license having been stripped of the same. He's messed up so many people's teeth here, its RIDICULOUS! So please....spare us that superiority complex.

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gadarene or sandeepkadian, You cannot escape acknowledging the fact that your life has been and is full with inferiority complex. Being an odorous Indian and poor communication are the governing factors. You are always concerned with grammar. Expecting people to be always grammatically correct on a forum like QL is not only undesirable but is also totally unwarranted.

Your real solution is a recognition that you are an odorous Indian possessed of inferiority complex, poor grammar and grammar obsession.

You are against Drywood for an obvious reason. You have a problem with Jackfrost because he stated a fact about you being smelly and unhygienic. You have a problem with me for above two reasons. We all can see a comprehensible logic behind your mental disorders.

You can improve your grammar. What you need is a good teacher (another smelly Indian but good in English) and a good learning ability. Maybe it is too late, but you should give it a try.

Your first lesson: Consider using semicolon and colon instead of dots.

I stand by my comment.......best off trying marginally better qualified doctors like those at Al Ahli, I've heard that Hamad have a good obs/gynae department. One can be 80% sure these doctors are qualified.......I wonder about Ms Begum, however......

gadarene, if Jane Doe was a British trained gynaecologist then ofcourse I would see her!!At least one knows they have been properly trained in their respective specialities.....;)

I would compromise all these to get a smart doctor at service, than sitting in a fivestar clinic and getting treated by an Idiot.

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i Have a frend who happens to be pharmacist in our country. When she came to doha thru the husband,she got pregnant and someone recommend that khudsia also. when she visit the place, the DR said she has a weak/sensitive pregnancy so the DR gave her a medicine.BEing a pharmacist she knew what are medicines, reading the prescription alone, she wonder why the doctor gave her medicine that could cause abortion. she threw the prescription and went to Hamad instead.

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@ najamss,no worries mate!...you're welcome...if you base your complaint on the difference in price,the authorities @ the ministry or the Supreme Council of Health as its now called will tell you that it's a private practice & there are no laws regulating charges & the doctor is free to charge as he/she wishes hence my suggestion of the hygiene factor...also,is there a price list on display on the premises for the patients to see that shows the charges including the "extra for emergency"? if it isn't,mention that as well in your complaint as there is a law which states that the clinic must have a price list on display for patients to see...

@ Sandeep,thanks MATE *wink* :)... @ keeley/jackfrost/drywood(in all it's various spellings),whoever you are...you're desperately in need of two things...a) some intensive english lessons & b) a life...go get some of both,then i'll consider having a conversation with you...

najamss ...............go head.,,, with your complaint ......man

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Yousri,

Nobel prize is the crappiest stuff. In 1939, they nominated Hitler for nobel prize as well :)

Moreover, they gave nobel prize to Philipp Lenard who was an advisor to Hitler....

Do not discuss those crappiest stuff... Pay attention to this post :p

Sandeep,

Congrats for what?

Yeah sure I will wait.....

It is more horrible to see Obama receiving NOBLE PEACE AWARD ...:s where the hell world is going...

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Drac the language is same...

najamss first of all congrats bro...

One of my colleagues gave birth a few days back, will check tomorrow and let you know the hospital where she went..

P.S.- That info will be revealed only after getting advance payment of a box of sweets ;P

hmmm..not again drywood!! :$

Let me say some more words regarding this post:

I don't care about Doctor's fame and his/her skills and knowledge if he/she doesn't care about his/her patients.. If she has a good name in the city (as I am told by some people) and she is earning good as well (I guess), Can't she devise any system for her patients? Can't she increase the number of waiting rooms?

I am planning to complaint in Health Ministry so that they come and see the environment how the patients are being treated.... I have no problem with high or cheap consultation fee but discrimination is not bearable...... U can go to any private clinic including Doha Clinic or Emadi Hospital... There is only one fix fee, thats it... and they have separate deptt for emergencies where appointment is not needed........ Well if she has no emergency deptt or room, no problem, she can see them while others are waiting for their turn... but if someone come and pay QR200 instead of QR125, that patient will be given precedence, no one can spare it....

Now the question is this that why people are still going to her because maybe she is charging less than market, she is good in her treatment or diagnosing, people do not have courage to complaint about her on proper platform, or maybe there is a difficult process of lodging complaint but if you don't treat your patients well outside of your room, I will say it, blackmailing......

But I am not one of them.... I will go in Health Ministry.... I have no problem with her personally... I neva met her...... I have only concerns about the environment of her clinic. This is what I will state in my complaint as well..... Insha Allah.....

I apologize gadarene if I got anything wrong... and thanx for the tip. I will consider it as well for sure..

lol actually you are the first and I am sure last one who ever made this out...

Anyway with each passing day, you are convincing me more and more that you are drywood. The insults are word to word same...

Well whatever works for you....

I just hope I never have to live as sad a life as yours, goodnight...

sandeepkadian = gadarene

You are one. Anyone can make this out.

Naah girl I pride myself on being unique, I won't mind if you abuse me for a stupid post but don't compare me with any other QLer...

sandeepkadian = gadarene

lol keeley I know :P

sandeepkadian, You couldn't be more pathetic.

Keeley found this on wikipedia, maybe it helps...

Mate (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈmate]), also known as chimarrão (Portuguese: [ʃimaˈxɐ̃ũ]) or cimarrón, is a traditional South American infused drink. It is prepared from steeping dried leaves of yerba mate (llex paraguariensis, known in Portuguese as erva mate) in hot water. It is the national drink in Argentina, Paraguay, and Uruguay, and drinking it is a common social practice in parts of Brazil, Chile, eastern Bolivia, Lebanon and Syria. In Brazil, it is considered to be a tradition typical of the “Gaúchos”, name given to those born in Rio Grande do Sul. The drink contains caffeine[1] and has a pungent taste like a cross between green tea and coffee, with hints of tobacco and oak.

Mate is served with a metal straw from a shared hollow calabash gourd. The straw is called a bombilla in Latin American Spanish, a bomba in Portuguese, and a masassa in Arabic. The straw is traditionally made of silver. Modern commercially available straws are typically made of nickel silver, called Alpaca, stainless steel, or hollow-stemmed cane. The gourd is known as a mate or a guampa, while in Brazil it has the specific name of chimarrão or cuia. Even if the water comes in a very modern thermos, the infusion is traditionally drunk from mates or cuias. However, "tea-bag" type infusions of mate (mate cocido) have been on the market in Argentina for many years under such trade names as "Cruz de Malta" and in Brazil under the name "Mate Leão".

As with other brewed herbs, yerba mate leaves are dried, chopped, and ground into a powdery mixture called yerba. The bombilla acts as both a straw and a sieve. The submerged end is flared, with small holes or slots that allow the brewed liquid in, but block the chunky matter that makes up much of the mixture. A modern bombilla design uses a straight tube with holes, or spring sleeve to act as a sieve.

gadarene, Stupid now you are saying two things. what is 'mate'...

@ najamss,i thought i made it clear in my post mate but since you don't seem to have seen that,let me repeat myself, it's WRONG to do this "skip the line for a higher fee" practice,it's unethical for a doctor to be practicing in this way but fortunately for the doctor & unfortunately for the patients,like yourself & your family,she is not breaking any laws in Qatar simply because there is no law against this sort of practice...legislation of this sort is in it's infancy in this country since the authorities themselves are basically unaware...the way this lady practices is basically WRONG so i hope you understand that i FULLY agree with you on this...goodluck with your complaint to the ministry of health,as a doctor that deals with them on a regular basis,your complaint on this matter won't amount to much,here's a tip mate,i've never been to her clinic,don't have the need to go there,but if you find anything unhygienic @ her clinic,focus on that in your complaint,the authorities will definitely send someone to check on it & take appropriate action...good luck...

same as what happened to me najamms..i called them first if i can arrange my appoinment but the receptionist said no need for appointment just drop in and then i came there at 3:30 pm and i`m the earliest,and then the receptionist gave me the number 12 i can`t believe she gave me number 12 to think that i came first,,and u know what,i waited for almost 3 hours till they call my name,i can`t believe that i came very early and it took 3 hours just to reached to my number,and it made me surprized when there other patient that just arrived and she got number 10,how come she came late and got number 10 while me came at very early time and got number 12..that time it made me think maybe there is "under the table"certain case here.

A year ago I went to the same DR after waitead long I need to use the bathroom. The smell Of the bathroo made me ask for my fee back and I left and Never return. I waited until I went back to my country to see OBGYN

gadarene stupid, you missed AngelinaBallerina's point.

I called to make an appointment at this clinic, and was told no appointments just drop in no problem. I was really sceptic about that policy but decided to try it. Went there, saw the line of people outside(!!!) waiting in their cars, the tiny building, and sped away.

I don't understand what is so hard about making an appointment with a Dr. here, it is easier on the Dr and the patient. Hopefully the new policy at Hamad Women's hospital will work well. I have yet to have a positive experience dealing with the health system here but am still keeping an open mind.

tra la la

@ angelinaballerina,that's such an ignorant comment,it's not even funny...@ all...the lady is one of most well recognized & experienced gynaecologists in the country...she runs her practice largely from a monetary point of view as is obvious from the account narrated above but what in God's name does her name or the implications that her name gives her have anything @ all to do with her knowledge & skill as a doctor???...so you're saying you'd visit a doctor named Jane Doe irrespective of her credentials or qualifications & based only on her name???...

I wouldn't visit anyone by the name of Khudsia Begum!

Go to Dr Adnan near Toysrus, he is the nicest man in the world, a good doctor, he has the most advanced ultrasound scanner in Doha and husbands are allowed in for the whole exam/consult. I have known him for 4 years, a very good doctor. You can just turn up on a Saturday morning, no referral needed, consult is about 250QR including ultrasound and written report and photos.

Only advice to anyone, check the enviroment before you leap into it. Never judge a book by it's covers..

only one small room for all women ....

DR don't know about H1N1 ?

Good, by writing an account of your experience here it's the only way things change.

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Unfortunately it is like that in most clinics where there is a lot of rush most times. The "appointment time" is actually useless.

If they say 4pm-8pm, that is probably the time between which the clinic remains open in the evenings. So you gotta be there at around 3:30pm and wait in a queue :(. That is the case with private clinics that have the "best" or so called "best" doctors.

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