Why can't the police help?
Well I am absolutely disgusted and shocked!!! I never imagined I would find this situation in Qatar!! I am here visiting my daughter who lives here alone with her 3 kids. A couple of Weeks b4 I came over she moved to a new home, something that can be so stressful by its self! They first night she stayed in her new home the Qatari guy who lives behind her came around screaming and shouting through the gate that she could not keep her dog as his son is afraid of them. He approached her in a very bad way, shouting and threatening her with police and baladya! (Sorry not sure how to spell it!)
Next day when she was at work and the maid retuned from dropping kids at school to find the dog who had been tied in garden with gates closed was gone!!! She left work and managed to find the dog roaming in the street! Every day for the next week the neighbors' son who is 20 years old and has mental problems proceeded to come round, kick the gate open and hit the dog and attempt to get her out of the garden!!! This is accompanied by his father ( who sometimes came to watch him while he was doing this) screaming and shouting at my daughter to get rid of the dog, no longer saying his son is scared of the dog but now he doesn't like the sound of her bark!!! Believe me, I also hate the sound of a barking dog and during my stay I have heard the dog bark only if a stranger comes to the gate, which is her job!!! Police have been called many times but by the time they manage to find the house, (usually takes them 10 to 15 mins with numerous calls 4 directions!!) they boy is gone and she is instructed to go to police station and make a report or get the police here while he is still on the property. After the second time she report it the father was told to sign a paper to say he will keep his son away, he refuse to sign the paper telling police that his son is crazy, he cannot control him and if he goes out in the street and hits someone he is not responsible for it!!!! The police seem to find it all quiet funny and say there is nothing else they can do!! So my daughter and her kids now just have to wait for this man's next visit to kick in the gate, come in to her garden and try to get the dog! This man is now coming even when the dog has not barked and his fathers excuse is that he can see the dog in her garden for his bedroom window!
All was quiet for 9 days and my daughter just started to relax and enjoy her new home, then last night he did it again! The poor dog had been feeling a little off color and lay on the patio not moving or barking!! It was night time and dark when the gate started to bang again, the man kicked the gate but couldn’t get it open as she has had it reinforced but it jammed so she couldn’t open it and was stuck inside! The man stayed outside the house with his father watching him kicking the gate and putting his hand in to try and get the dog. The police arrived 15 mins later and the man was gone. They eventually open the gate and the man's father was there also. 4 police officers, 1 inspector and the man who rented the house where all outside also. Of course Qatari to Qatari they were all kissy kissy and rubbing noses! Seemed to be forgotton that a young woman alone with 3 kids was being terrorized in her own home!! Police just kept saying "this man is crazy, what can we do" the lock on the gate was broken and police told my daughter to go to the souq and buy a new one or go to the police station and report it!!!
I really thought that this kind of this was taken seriously in Qatar and I suspect if it was a Qatari woman living alone she would not be left to deal with it alone!!! I do feel sorry the son with problems but he should be well taken care of! My daughter goes out and has to use big chains and locks to protect her home while there house always has the gates open!! The father of this boy should be ashamed of himself using his sick son to terrorize a woman alone and he really does bring shame on the Qatari community!!! As for the police, it's beyond a joke!!
Any suggestions??? And please don’t tell me to tell her to get rid of the dog as I feel this is her right to have her as a protection for herself and the kids. Anyway I do not believe that the dog is the problem because as last night showed, he came with no provocation from the dog!
Another double post, sigh!
if this "child" is big enough to be a physical threat to others then the police should be taking action now, not waiting for the outcomoe of a court case. That said, action would probably take the form of informing the father that HE is legally responsible for a dependent that woudl not be recognized as competent in the eyes of a judge/court who is living and under the care of said parent.
The father, while I sympathize with him and his family fully, needs help - and I know in this culture this type of "behaviour" for lack of a better description, is kept private wherever possible, the father needs to recognize and accept that his son is a danger (and he is a danger if he is indeed breaking and entering) to others and that HE (the father) either has to take steps to control his son or ACCEPT the legal consequences.
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With the greatest of respects, would someone please point me to a quote from the Qur'an which states that dogs are Haram? I would like to understand why exactly a dog is Haram, if in fact it actually is. All I could find was this:
"Having a dog cannot be considered as Haram but it is Makruh, which means that it is better not to have one unless it is for guarding, for herding, or for any similar need or use. It is very important to realize that the angels do not enter the room where there is a dog, but it is still not haram to have it there."
http://www.islamonline.net/livefatwa/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=54MBSj
There are also several articles written regarding dogs in Islam at this site http://www.islamicconcern.com/dogs.asp all of which state it is not Haram to own a dog.
If this is the case then surely there is no religious or legal reason as to why she couldn't keep a dog in her garden for the family's protection?
Therefore there would be no reason for the young man and his father to continually force their way into this family's property. So it would purely be trespassing or breaking & entering. This is an arrestable and punishable offence.
The dog should not be brought into this equation. This is a case of a neighbour continually breaking into a family's home. If the neighbours don't like the dog, maybe they should move.
Please correct me if I have misunderstood this.
Get a video camera installed pointing at your gate. If the disturbed child starts again record it and take it to the police. If the police still refuse to do anything tell daddy you are putting it on youtube and linking it to as many sites such as qatar living and you have no issue going to aljazeera.
Dont take his shit.Personally I would have peppersprayed him by now.
bleu, in the mean time she is just supposed to live with the situation??? she did not with hold evedance, she was not asked for any because the father of this boy has told the police that his son is doing this and he can not stop him. its not a matter of proving this man is coming to the house, even his own father admits its him. anyway, someone has sent a PM with a practiacal solution that she will now try.
@bleu
have u read my posts ????
now I complted around 10-11 after filing that case.......
still no information, and I have that file number.....
so wht is the use for waiting ........
countrylady13, she has a case in the public prosecution, it means this will be processed, and if anything illegal was done, they would move it to the court.
They would call both parties first to try to resolve it amicably.
5 weeks is not a long time... Maybe you didn't have proof, and you didn't have a case?
Contact the prosecution with the number you have, and provide them with the new evidence that you previously withheld.
Alumnar, why do some people just have to get at people who make posts here?? all im doing is sharing what has happend to my daughter! thought thats what QL is about, on a few occations i have thanked u all 4suggestions thought that an end to it. if someone else asks or comments im just answering them. if sugar dady can tell me who he is and how he can help i would be greatful to take it, if he can help why hasnt he sent me a pm telling me what his possition of conections are! anyway, thank you to all the QLs who have give usful suggestions,to any one i offended.my post wasnt meant to, sugardady pm with the details. Thanks and all the best.
Y some officers are doing like this ???????
Y they are making bad name for this department ??????
After all y they are making bad name for this good country ?????
If they are paid by government , they should not do like this !!!!!!
we are (other Nationalities) your guest , u have to treat us in good way ........ if we do bad u have to kick usin to the prison .......
should not act like fool !!!!
I respect thhis country more over I repect all the systems here .........
but some may be only .000000001% making this problems !!!!
... sorry but WHY making this case a HUGE thing on QL when somebody is now offering help and you won't take it? Why don't you make arrangements to meet sugardaddy somewhere neutral, ask somebody to go with you and that's it? It's like all that complaining and whining, and now that somebody is offering you help, you are reluctant to accept that helping hand? I really can't understand that, I thought you were desperate for a solution for your daughter's problem???
Darude if u know suger dady or can recommend him in anyway please let me know. thanks sir :P
sugerdady, its called why cant the police help, not why wont the police help, the police have told me that the case is in public prosocution for the last 5 weeks and she has the case number. she is worried about pushing it in court cuz she is affaid of the outcome, being told to remove the dog or this boy being sent away.Both of these things she doesnt want to happen. maybe if the police held the father responsable for the boy and told the father he could be punished instead of hugging, kissing and joking with him it would of stopped a long time ago. at the enf of the day sugerdady i do not know u or who u are but if u have some way letting me know then maybe i can pass the case number to u.
Once I complained against two Indians when they used bad language and shouted at me along with my family....... they are drunk that time
I made complaint (I visited 5 police Station - more than two times - spend three days - to make a complaint - they used kick me to X- Police station - X asked me to go to Y. then Y asked to go A, then A asked me to go to B, any way , I spend three days, and my valuable week end + One working day ....... is gone.....
finally they took this complaint ( registered this complaint through their car registration number only) .....
as usual police ppl took my mobile number for reference ......
he he he he he he
after two weeks I got call from their Sponsor, he asked me to cancel that case ........
he he he he he
shame on this ......
how he got my mobile number ???????
how he can ask me to cancel this case ?????
he he he he its really funny......
after that many times I visited that police station to know the progress of this case.......
he he he he he
that also funny, they used to ask me to come next day .......
its hapnd 8 months ago.....
still I don't know wht hapnd to that case ......
he he he he
so better shift ur house ......
don't waste ur time and don't waste ur money for calling some officers.......
HONESTLY REQUESTING SHIFT YOUR HOME TO A SAFE PLACE WHICH IS PRACTICABLE HERE. THIS IS WHAT MOST EXPAT DO!
Countrylady - you have asked what could be done to resolve this situation, you have a video of the mentally challenged man actually committing these acts, and sugardady has offered to help you and your daughter - why not at least try? The worst that can happen is nothing, and that's where you are now. At best, perhaps the police will act with this video evidence.
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i am 63,do u realy think i would make a story like that up??? i have better things to do with my time. thanks for your offer of help, i will tell my daughter about it.
we have lost faith in police,why have faith in the courts
we have video evedence,i hope it never happens to u or any member of ur family
Sugardaddy-Go back to the first page of this thread where I said I know the family, I know the dog,I know the house. As I said before the dog is usually very quiet and EVEN if she barks no one has the right to kick the door in and enter the property without permission.The facts are that this 'boy' is illegally entering their house without permission to let the dog out and is also kicking the gate in order to do so.How can there be any different facts or story- you tell me.
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the other side better have a pretty good defense for that...
So Sugardady it's ok for someone to repeatedly force the gate open by kicking so hard that it breaks? It's okay for someone to enter the yard without permission where there are woman and children?This is okay with you because these people have a dog in their yard- these people who are paying their rent and haven't caused any problems whatsoever.The only 'crime' they have committed is to have a dog as a pet and that doesn't give anyone the right to force entry to your property.
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comprehending Sugardady's posting? Not only here, even in the other thread he posted! I'm having a headache!
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Haven't read the entire thread .. Ice Maiden is right that the police are helpful etc. My 2 bits worth - you gotta give them something to go on.
Junarc2003 had a good suggestion - "ask her to video record the harrassments that they're doing so they can show this to the authorities the next time she will complaint..."
Trust that your daughter is careful with not letting the dog roam freely around the neighbourhood without someone's supervision due to the sensitivities.
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Complain through your embassy.
explain earlier in the thread:-)
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yes ur right,but surley they should make the father keep boy inside,we have BIG chains on our gate when we go out to keep man OUT,why cant the father be responsible and keep his son inside,she sudnt have to be a prisoner in her own home,chains,bolts,locks,this is QATAR!!!
as many posted earlier, the reason why the police are reluctant to do anything is because the offender is with mental disabilities.
I suggest she seeks the consultation of Qatar Foundation for child & women protection as they can assist her in approaching the right people to resolve her matter
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As much as we may all scream blue murder about what's right & wrong,@ the end of the day,if this case goes to court in the State of Qatar,it will be Qatari man vs. neighbour's dog & dog's owner who was married to a Qatari but is not Qatari by blood...people,the local community is a small one & like with any small tribal community ANYWHERE in the world,blood is thicker than water,a dog is haram for them period,wheather the dog is used as a guard dog or a pet or anything else is a secondary issue,the very prescence of the dog is haram,plain & simple so that's one big disadvantage from the word go...please don't get me wrong,i LOVE dogs,volunteer @ QAWS & i have complete empathy with your situation BUT as the saying goes,when in Rome or in this case,when in Qatar...nothing is going to come of it & you might actually end up losing your dog if this local neighbour has the right contacts(wasta) so please,invest in a good chain lock,avoid the neighbour & get on with your life...
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LOL, I go away for a few hours, and see what happens...
I never said she was wrong...
Xena we have been told that it has happend b4 and i get the feeling its the reason that the last family left.
She had to have known that there was a dog with the family.... has she tried speaking to her brother about this?
She will end up losing money over this... all because her nephew will chase away her tenants...
Whose to say it hasn't happened with other tenants before? Maybe the reasons they left?
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nationality.... its purely a man who cannot control his son... it could be anyone...
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is one of a kind in this world.so what do you expect about them???
Sugardady are you a secret agent :-P
"Live with passion, Die with style"
... sounds very Qatari to me with her use of all the local expressions. If that's the case and she is dealing with another Qatari then only you can sort it out between you. Remember - we expats have no rights or voice when it comes to decisions in your own country! If a local can't deal with it then leave it to Allah and Inshallah all will get sorted soon. Good luck.
its not about being british or qatarie,its about a woman with 3 young children being terrorised in her new home,all she wants is to be left in peace,,thanks for all ur post guys,inshallah it will work out
xena, she has gone over the idea of getting bigger the would attack if the boy came in but at the end of the day she does not want any harm to come to the man with mental problems or the dog. the problem seems to be the father who is refusing to take responsability for his son and the police who are not making him do so!
the landlord is apperntly his "sister". the police take 10 to 15 mins to arrive at the house and the man has gone by then.
if the dog bites him... the law will then definately step in, and we would end up losing him:-(
Please do try the option I gave you.... As far as I am aware... harrassement of women (of any kind) is not allowed in this country!
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I'm glad to hear she's being pro-active, but has the landlord spoken to the neighbour personally? I had a problem with neighbours in another GCC country and when my "national" landlord spoke to the problem makers personally, the problem disappeared.
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I have three suggestions,
(1) the neighbour should take up the lease of the house and pay the rent for the duration and pay her moving expenses and then your daughter can move to a home where the dog is not a "bone of contention". This is a win win situation. The neighbour will then be able to live securely (for the duration of the lease) without his son being "traumatized".
As an aside, have you ever considered where the son has learned this behavior = sounds to me like a convenient scapegoat for the father. "I don't like dogs, I will teach my mentally challenged son not to break into other people's homes and abuse the animal and the people, and therefore my son will be given leniency because of his incapacity". A sorry father figure and an even sorrier police response.
Or, your daughter is renting? Get her Qatari landlord to speak to the neighbour. The landlord has a vested interest in getting and retaining good tenants, if the neighbour is abusing the landlord's tenant, then the landlord should be following up as the police seem to be unwilling to do so (despite the Qatari laws).
Thirdly, the next time the fellow breaks in, call the police and have him arrested. He is breaking and entering no matter his "rationale" and your daughter and children are vulnerable, if the officers on the scene won't do anything demand to speak to the next highest officer, asking what would THEY do if it was their daughter, sister, etc. in the same situation.
This "kid" sounds physically dangerous - If I did what he has done, I'd be in jail no matter my explanation.
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Marycatherine, my daughter has put that soulution to the guy. she no longer wants to live in the house and can not settle there, she does not feel it is home, somewhere she looks forward to going to after work but she can not affort the expence of moving again. if he is willing to cover her cost she would be happy to move.
my headache is really bothering me!
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I was reading nealy every comment .And must of them are
prrety good and right for you and your daughter.But you are closing your eir and don.t want to her or do any of them.....Could you please tell us what you want????sorry for beeing little pit rude but this is true.....
xena, the dog is one she got from QAWS around ayear ago and where she lived b4 no one ever botherd about it. She also had fosterd another dog just after the fire at QAWS but had to return him to u as he was very territorial, actualy im thinking to ask for him on loan again!! lol
I dont wana stoop to naming the family on QL, this man is bad refleaction on his family name.
I would like to add something here- I know the family and have seen the dog and she really doesn't bark that much, in fact she's a very quiet dog and only barks when she's doing what she's supposed to be doing ( guarding the house)
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bleu these are not rants, im sharing my experiance, i thought thats the kind of thing this site was for and also taking advice from others. the neighbours who live close like the dog and have no problem with it, they have said they dont hear it bark and the kids around even like to come and play with the dog. the dog is not roaming in the street and she is not a danger to anyone around. Also there are many street dogs we see in the area.
and yet, the sky is still dark!
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bubz, if she does that, I'd guess that a neighbor may shoot the dogs...
These are the rants of somebody who's just visiting... I'd love to hear the opinions of her daughter, grandchildren, dog, crazy man, his father... and all their neighbors...
Hey put another DOG which should be a Doberman Pinscher or a Pit Bull
Leave the rest to them :)
Hope it gets sorted soon!
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if you got your side, why dont' you share with us what you know... that way we can justify from both sides...
If the case is that this young man is only harrassing the family because of the dog.. then someone needs to talk to him about it... The dog isn't harming him from what I understand...
But if there is another side, then please let us know:-)
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With this type of problem dog or no dog I think the problem will not be solve if you have neighbours like this better to move out like I said It is not safe for them to live there
Your 100%correct just move on on that place much better for them
rid of the dog? Ok... so... dog gone... out of the equation....
Hypothetically now..... No dog to protect the lady and her children.... Boy still banging on doors, entering without authority.... Lady alone at home.... raped or kids physically or sexually assulted....
What then? Was it still all about the dog?
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ah you are leaving again.
but we still have to meet for a coffee. you 13 and me 31 will be nice :D
i go back to uk next week,a worried mum and grandmother,thanks for all ur posts,inshallah this problem will be resolved,with the correct out come x
Thank you alumnar, this is the point, dog or not it should not be going on, if she gets rid of the dog what will be next??? will they say he is coming cuz the kids making to much noise or he sees us walking in the garden. dog is haram??? no, not when used as a guard dog, man entering ur home is haram no matter what is his mental state.
... this lady and her children are being intimidated and feel threatened inside their own home, never mind the dog or not! Why should somebody not feel safe because there is some nutcase out there in the neighbourhood who is allowed to do what he wants? Breaking the gate, trying to tresspass - can you see an expat doing it and getting away with it in this country? What are rules for, why is there no help being given to this family?
@ countrylady,as much as i empathize with your daughter's situation,i think it can safely be said that in a dog vs. Qatari situation,you don't need rocket science to figure who's going to win that one eh?!...don't waste your time with the cops,a dog is "haram" for them,plain & simple,there is no way in hell they will take any action @ all against your daughter's neighbours unless they physically harm her or your grandchildren & even then it's doubtful...being married to a local in the past doesn't count for a lot,it's the blood that matters,you're either one of them or an outsider,irrespective of the passport or the fact that your daughter was once married to a local...in this case,the issue isn't even your daughter or grandchildren directly,it's about their dog which like i said is "haram" from a religious point of view,any one of those cops even attempting to help you will be seen as going against his religion & your local neighbour is smart enough to know that...my sincere advice,get a strong chain lock,keep your gate locked & get on with your life,your neighbour will eventually give up trying to harass you...
and yes i know the family name, i know the fathers name and his sons name and im very tempted to name and shame him here!!! the father of this boy is a shame on his whole family!
Thank you polkadots, that is what she is worried about! atleast with the dog in the garden she has a warning when this man comes.If she gets rid of the dog and this man comes back she is helpless. My daughter is musilm and the dog does not stay in the house, the weather is getting warmer and she was planning to buid a room out side for the dog to go in. What arabs like or dont like should not come in to it. in islam they say its ok to keep a dogas a guard dog and thats what she is doing, the ara where she lives has a lot of workers around and people come to her house to fix thing etc, easy for people to know she is a woman alone. im just realy disappointed that this is allowed to go on in Qatar.xene i will talk to her about going to QF thanks for the suggestion.
With three Qatari Girls'their mother's peace at stake this is beyond belief that the police is not reacting even after 3 written reports and 5 visits.IT SHOULD BE REPORTED IN T.V!!! In this case getting rid of the dog alone will not serve any purpose,today itis the dog, tomorrow it will be some thing else the boy takes a dislike to....
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YES,its simple answer,get rid off dog,but its her protection,and why give in to this arragant person,not every one likes dogs in no,but this the childrens dog,and they love her,she would move tomorrow,but only been here 7 wks, has contract,also its vry expensive to move once never mind twice,she has made house beautiful,new carpets all through,curtains,spent lot off money,
Dogs are unhealty animals to some I suppose. However do try to tone down in case of back lash and chances to get deported for this silly episode with the locals.
very simple : get rid of the dog
I don't think justice will prevail here and I think for peace of mind sometimes you have to lose a battle to win a war. So if her objective is to live peacefully then I guess she will have to move house.
looking 4 help from police.the police have failed her,not qatar,she divorced from husband,this guy has been in touch with all her ex family,they not intrested,she has told them her kids are there necies,but none help.i tell u wat,if it was in the uk ,ex or no ex,THERE WUD BE HELP FROM EX INLAWS,the kids are still there family,i have been comming to doha for 15 yrs,lived here for nealy four and love it,this man is a bully,and people are afraid of him,and some times u have to stand up for yourself,and show these arragant people they cant treat u like that,EVEN if its over a dog,and i do not think all qataries are bad
I think you should either get the Dog inside the house OR get a German Shepherd or a Boxer Dog and I am sure they wouldn't dare to even pass by her house ever again.
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a couple of months ago I was hearing an add on radio from Qatar Foundation.. something to do with female abuse, women being harrassed that sort of thing...
Maybe she can go and talk to them... Sorry I have no idea anymore what the ad or this new programme was called, but maybe calling the Qatar Foundation and asking them, would be a help... Might have legal advise for her...
Its not fair that your daughter, the family or the dog should suffer...
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of options. Either get a new accommodation and keep the dog, or get rid of the dog and "hopefully" live a peaceful life with her "good" neighbors!
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i actualy get the feeling the the police are scared of the man and how he will react if they try to arrest him! the father is telling them how dangerous he is! they taking the easy option of leaving her to deal with it.
she has been to the police station five times and made 3 reports!! the police have been to the house, seen the kids, seen how scared they are and yet nothing is done!
hi darude,how u doing ? x x x
her ex has spoke to neighbor,he not listen,all he want is dog gone,yes my daughter is from uk,but has qatari passport,the gates are main gates over 8ft high,and iron,he is big lad,he kicks them,we use to leave bolt across,but the gate jams.so then we cant get out,so now we leave the bolt off so when he kicks the gate it just opens,even then it takes some force 4 him to do it,well i thought the police would put a stop to him doing it,but halas no,in the uk if u have a child with mental heath problems its the parent who is responsible, i feel so sad for the boy(man),but blame the father,
xena, that's what exactly i was going to suggest.. her ex-husband should talk to police, or to the neighbour, or to interfere in some other way..
also, countrylady say:
"I suspect if it was a Qatari woman living alone she would not be left to deal with it alone!!!".. well, here is the problem... Qatari woman would never keep a DOG in her house..
..i am wondering
1) how these father and son are able to open her gates? can anyone open someone's house that easy..?
2)...can anyone open someone's house that easy without being punished?? Qatar doesn't have a low protecting the property? In USA the owner of the property can shoot the invader and get away with that..
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and about your DAUGHTER hmmm well cant say anything. she must be a brave barbarian who can takecare of her self .
There are only 2 options...either change the house or get a dog that bites....
...or maybe you could electrify the gate as a last option.
I am concerned that the options are so limited....one the day the guy might come and misbehave with the girl and the police might not do anything to him ...as he is "mental".
hi,thanks 4 ur post,its my daughter and her children,all she wants is to be left alone.its the fathers responsabilty to keep his son inside,but no he stands while his son kicks in gate,the dog only barks if man comes or stranger ring bell,wat to do
A truly sad picture, Though I have come to belive from general experience is that Qataris are more respectful towards wome, and with u r daughter holding a Qat passport!!A truly 'uniqily disgusting'man!!
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ur right,all she wants is to be left alone in her new house, she has done no wrong,the police told her,no problem her having a dog,its so wrong,
I have lived in the GCC with dogs for 10+ years. Unfortunately, I suspect that the ethicity of your friend has more to do with the lack of official response than the ethnicity of the "complainers" (for lack of a better term). As a white western woman, I have had my problems but have been able to resolve them with my neighbours (who were not comfortable with dogs) and a lot of it had to do with my physical "appearance" and my nationality.
I suspect that from your post your friend does not share my "advantages". If the young man next door does have mental issues, it would probably be best to try and find alternative accomodation. Besides having issues with dogs, there are real issues with mental illness/challenges in this region - mainly because there are few alternatives/treatments/outlets for families to learn how to live with such and integrate children with such issues into the community. It's simply because they haven't "caught up" (for lack of a better term - I know they love their children) with other societies yet, it will happen but it has always been a private matter to date. It takes time to educate not only families but society at large - we're still working on this in Canada too.
I have been lucky because I am a single female, I explain that my dog is my protector in the absence of a father or brother. My dog may bark, but if the attacker comes at me with a tennis ball, I'm toast, the tennis ball will win.
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if you don't want to move. It's too hot for them to be outside for most of the year anyways. That's really the only solution besides moving and it's much cheaper!
The best thing you can do move out on that place
xena,yes he is the father of the children but there is a reason hes an ex!! Not much use!told her to get rid of the dog.
to a qatari, so she holds a qatari passport. Is her ex-husband father of the children? Can he not talk to the man?
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lol.its on the cards,if u no were we can borrow one let me no,
gettin one of these...
By verisimilitude at 2010-02-20
The police are generally helpful, or atleast that has been my experience.
If the ones at the lower strata are not helping, ask her to go to the higher ups and explain her situation. Most of them are very decent, reasonable and quite helpful.
Why move house? She has every right to be there. And in Qatari culture, its very objectionable to barg into a neighbour's house especially if there are no men there. You've been unfortunate to meet one of those "uncultured" ones. Not every Qatari is like your neighbour.
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Get some mace and when the retard comes back, give him a good spray and see often he comes back. Do the same for he father. Dont give in to the inbreds you have for neighbors. You have as much right to live there peacefully as they do.
There are many ways to keep them on their side of the fence, but most are unacceptable in this culture, or should I say "Lack of culture".
after reading just da half of dis post.. I thought i just watched a comedy movie called "the poor dog next door"
sorry for ur loss and actually do not depend on these lazy cops of Qatar..
if I tell u my experiences with the cops here ..never mind..
try to shift .. ther is always a better place if in search
do not even waste tym gettin bothered by these rude animals..
hay i have an idea buy anti barking spray u dog will stop barking
peace :)
Moving from the house they were born in was hard 4 the kids, having this man kick his way in has stressed them out also! they would be heart broken if she got rid of there dog and they didnt do anything wrong, what kind of lesson would this teach them?
Better give up the place than the Dog.. A pet is part of the family.
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Sorry
or have it fostered and move to a pet-friendly neighborhood.
Seems she might have to go that way but its a shame! shouldnt happen like this! i didnt expect it in Qatar, its not the country i thought it was!
oh well.. that's pretty tough.. just let her move somewhere else then.. i think that's just the last option.. im sure she'll find a better and safer place of her range and even if it will costs her a bit, it'll be good for them..
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Try to see the High Ups in the Police...explain it to them...I am sure, they would be of a help.
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Any evidence she gets just goes with the report she made and that dosent seem to be going anywhere! the father of the man has actualY admitted to the police that his son is doing this but seems to say its her fault cuz she has a dog. This guy seems to be a bully and has made all people in this area get rid of dogs! dont think he likes the fact that an English woman is standing up to him!
I don't think any evidence would help her, locals are always right here.
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ask her to video record the harrassments that they're doing so they can show this to the authorities the next time she will complaint... it might help...
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She does actualy have Qatari passport, shes been here along time and was married to a local but maybe u need to be original Qatari to get help!
Not much to be done then except maybe keep the dog indoors or keep it on sedatives so that it doesn't bark.
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Problem not a lot you can do. As a rule Arabs don't like dogs.
Maybe your daughter can go round and kick their gate in but probably the police will arrive in two minutes and she'll go to jail.
Tell the police her kids are afraid of the son. Migt work
She has made a report already, around 4 weeks ago and nothing happend! if she could move she would but costs alot to move and hard to find a house in her range.
Seems like locals here can do whatever they want without regard to non nationals. The system sucks.
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better for her to transfer somewhere else...
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Can't she file a report for breaking and entering if he forces the gate open and enters her home.
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