maid is having affair?how to catch redhanded?

I have treated my Indonesian maid fairly. She is been with me since Novemeber 2009. I always buy whatever she wants. I always took her outside with me to parties to mingle with other maids and also takes her sometimes for shopping. Now other maids in my friends circle told me that she is having an affair with a cleaner coming in my compound. Also she regularly talks to several other men of different nationalities. I have no proof of it. I checked her mobile and found out of 23 contacts, only 3 were women and all other are men. I am surprised that she cannot communicate with me in any language and I have to expalin it to her by actions. How and what is she communicating with those men? how she manage to talk to them on phone??? I dont want to take any action before I confirmed that she is really having an affair.She is ok in household jobs but a very very lazy person and also shows attitude when I ask her to do something. She is very smart and bold as well and do not hesitate to ask me for anything. She develops friednships with other maids and invites them to visit our house without telling me. Can somebody please advise what to do???
If I were at your (knock knock) place, i would have asked the maid directly in a very humble and polite manner about her suspicious activities. Being her sponsor or guardian it is the duty to keep an eye on her's suspicious activities and try to make her understand that the things she is doing is not correct. Make her understand that she is married and is responsible for her family back in her country.
Put yourself in Knock knock shoes and then try to find the solution...
Just go find yourself a new maid rather than wasting your time whining around
KnockKnock,affair or no affair, your maid "is very very lazy,... has an attitude..." more than reason enough to contact the agent for a replacement.Also the agents here specifically tell prospective sponsors/maids that no cell phones are allowed, they even claim to check the bags of the maids when they arrive here!If u have figured out to live with her professional deficiencies, then putting up with a part of her life that u don't own should not be a problem.
But being her sponsor and the extend of constraints imposed on such a role here,contrary to what many think on QL,it is the duty of the sponsor to impose some curfews for the sake of all [employer/employee]concerned.
You can be HOT or COLD to me, spare me LUKEWARM!!!!
After reading all the posts looks like it is better to be hired as a maid then hire a maid...:) all bl**dy crap ...rights and privileges of the maid...duh...what about the employers rights and privileges...but then that is not fashionable..... crying foul over oppression of the weaker person is a big crowd puller... in the nut shell one hires a maid to make life simpler not to get worried about following so many rules and regulations and watch each step dealing with her. You hired the maid, you are paying, you are responsible for her actions, so you set the rules...only mistake you did was to come on QL...here people are ready to raise red flags at anything and everything even if they are not exposed to the situation or have experienced one.
Tomorrow if beacuse of your good/ tolerant behavior you run into a problem with authorities or something like that and then run that story again here...the same people will easily brand you an idiot...:)
I though liked the way you filtered the responses and picked the right ones to compliment.
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One life to live, live it to the fullest.
no need to give allow to go out side she come here for the work not enjoy
From what you have explained...I thing the maid over used her freedom.
You have to change your maid the soonest before she gets herself preggy.
One side of the story is here. If she wants to sort her problems out there is nothing like a honest discussion between the two of them. I am sure the househelp might be a little upset for a while (if this story is as told) but in the end I am sure they will find common ground to agree on. If the househelp doesn't want to lose a good employer she will understand her bosses' worries and concerns.
I feel the same WK.
Maybe we were only supposed to provide her ways to trap her maid. I would have been more helpful if I had seen some more cheap spy thrillers.
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Ameen AbuAmerican, Ameen!
~*Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret*~
I don't understand why some people are frustrated to see the way this thread is going. We all have different opinions and there is nothing wrong in that.
It is a public forum and this is the right response. I don't think this is meant to provide people with professional advice.
My friend,she also have heart and wants to fulfill her life.
Maid doesnt means that you buy her life,let her enjoy.
Guys, Let's quit this thread. Knock, asked an advice, lets hit nail on the head as simple as you could, and lets walk out.
Reading this thread, sounds you guys quarelling and yelling each other for no reason and which is not our cup of tea either. Looks.. very unplesant guys...
Please..., let's stop this, before we step into something else. PERIOD.
lol....
what happend ov this post?? m amazed...
well simple advice u talk her directly...
if u think that she had contact with others. then surly she knows the language... and just pretending that she dont know the language.. and dont fire her.. a family is living on your money.. so dont ruin that family.. simply talk her.. and tell not to do this in ur home.. thats all... coz u dont like such acts in your house, nor to invite her friends in duty timings.
..there is no rule in the game of life and death..
install camera in her room , but I'm sure if it's illegal ... ...
I already posted few replies. Thanks for your suggestion. I thought these topics and forums are here for us to help but here people are asking me why did I ask for suggestions and help....I better keep myself away from qatarliving because most people I believe join it for fun and not for community help...thanks anyways.
khockknock, I'm a mean boss, so,, I'll stay quiet as to what I would do if my maid spoke back to me.
~*Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret*~
hey, is this thread still ON?? oh god, i think the author has got best reply after seeing all these arguments..so i think v shld stop commenting further..lol
knockknock,r u listening?? can u plz come out of ur den to tell us that u have got ur reply?? hahaaa.
Thanks to you guys for understanding me and explaining what I am trying to say., I am not obliged to answer any questions here but I will clarify some definitely. Here is some info about her routine and background.She is married with three children. She is a Muslim. Her husband is in Indonesia.She sends all her money to her family and asks for more all the time. I always give her extra money.She goes shopping with me once a week because I go once a week. She is allowed to go and visit her friends alone on Thursday and she meets with them at Villageo.(Go and meet her, She is the happiest of all of the maids around her). If you Compare her working hours to mine you all will laugh at me. I work 6.30 t0 3.00, 6 days. Break on fridays only. I made children's breakfast and packed lunches myself. She works 8.00-1.00 than go out in our compound's park and come back at 5.00. I come back home, cook food, serve the children and later husband. (Maid is still outside) She comes back at 5.00. (her fix time) makes tea for her and went to bed, comes out of the room at 7.00 serve dinner with me and at 9.00 she went to sleep. by that time no one can wake her up. She also goes shopping with her friends. Whenever she wants to go out I never say No. Do we all get this much freedom in our working environments???? Can you talk endless hours on mobile while working????can you say a straight NO to your Boss??? Do you cheat your employer??? Are you not being watched in your offices??I know there are hidden cameras in some offices to observe what employees are doing. Our employers are not going to tolerate this type of attitude even for a single day and I am tolerating this behavior since 5 months. I am suffering only because I am being generous with her. THIS IS MY MISTAKE. And guys please do not involve religion in this. People manipulate religion for their own sake..My maid is also a Muslim and knows that extra marital affairs are prohibited in all religions. One more thing,,I am not spying on her. I checked her mobile in front of her mentioning that I want to see who she talks to because I have the responsibility being her sponsor. Like I check my children's mobiles. Please Just don't assume things on your own. She is not the first maid I have.. I had another maid for 4 years. She was crying when she was leaving, she never wanted to go because Alhamdolilah I treated her like a family member. I never wanted to say these stupid things here but some of you provoked me to say.
This all may sound rubbish to people like Nic and AbuAmerican because you people are arguing for the sake of argument only.
AbuAmerican, I agree with the approach you suggested with your sons. This is a perfect solution to deal with our kids. However, in case of a maid, things become slightly different. I don't think maid should lose her job just because somebody told her sponsor something about her. She could be innocent.
If one is not very human, the simple solution is to fire the maid and get a new one. But if you don't want to punish her for something which she might have not done, you should find the truth.
Also, being Muslims we have a duty to stop our Muslim brothers and sisters not to indulge in any activity which is sinful and illegal.
It would be interesting to know what others think that they would do if they were in the similar situation as KnockKnock is.
AbuAmerican, What you are missing is the context. As I have found you the one who cannot understand things easily, I would choose a different way to make my point. Tell me if one hears from people that his son or daughter is involved in some activities which are wrong, what father should do? Father has the right to find out if it is true to save him/her from the evil.
What you have quoted from Holy Quran is beyond doubt but you have failed to understand the issue we are discussing.
In this case where she heard that her maid is involved in an activity which is illegal and of course a sinful too, the lady has all the rights to find out the truth as it affects her since she is her sponsor. Also, it could have an impact on her children who are looked after by the maid. It could lead to any disaster if maid is inviting her acquaintances home.
Brother, don't argue for the sake of arguments. First understand the matter and then think, think, think before you hit the keyboard.
Eco-savvy, spying is haram, I agree. But what about finding out a truth when you know that if you don't, it will affect you?
All i can say to AbuAmerican is slavery mostly exists nowadays in most Arab families, look at the news numpty
Sugar Qtr good that you have a slave who follows your orders.
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Salamtek ya AbuAmerican. I have rights too, and if she will violate my space, then she doesn't deserve to be in my house. Ilhamdillah I have a good maid and she is happy to be with us. She even wants to bring her husband and sister to work for us. We set the rules for her to follow. If she doesn't like them, its her choice to leave.
AbuAmerican, I am sure you would accept having a maid who brings in strangers in your home while your wife and family are there. They are supposed to feel safe and protected in their home. Do you know what could happen if strangers come and leave whenever they please? Do you trust strangers?
Allah asked us to feel jealous of our families and be protective. I will not accept having a sexually active maid, while I have children and a husband around. I will never accept it regardless of her rights.
Its simple.
~*Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret*~
first of all you should talk to her in friendly way not to let other maids be visiting your house in your absence..secondly talk to her about affair thing..if you think its right to talk about it..directly..if she denies..or carry on her activities..you can replace her instead of catching her red handed..because as many people said here ..you have no right to interfere her private life..and actually you cant..
so its better to find some better replacement..
regards..
First of all set the rules - give her the day off she is entitled to, tell her no friends in the house. What she does on her day off should be up to her. Did you know that many female housekeepers (I hate the word MAID) keep contacts of other male or female in this country to be able to talk to somebody as they get no time off to do so? Did you know that sharing experiences about Qatar makes it more 'bearable' for them?
I don't think she wants to go with you to parties where you select the people she can associate with. She wants her own time off to associate with who she wants. And that is her contractual right!
Spying into her mobile phone? Tss tss... how sad is that? Ever heard of the word PRIVACY???
Set the final rules which apply to your household and make her follow them - but give her her rights! Remember she is a human being like you.
Knockknock, I see you have visited our famous thread http://www.qatarliving.com/node/665222 and posted your same concern. Please read it through and go with what you see suitable for your home, family and life.
I managed to hire a maid, and she is quite decent. She is a very very hard working girl, and I'm - so far - satisfied with her. She has her own mobile phone because I'm out of town a lot and I need to call her to check up on her when I am away.
You have the right to set your rules and she has to follow them. If she doesn't like it, then she can leave. You do not have to put up with anyones crap in your house.
I don't think you need proof or need to wait until you catch her red-handed. It makes it just awkward and difficult. Sit and speak with her. Let her know what what she is doing is unacceptable. Give her a chance to explain. If you are ok with it and comfortable, then give her another chance to prove she is worthy of the job. If you say she is lazy and you cannot deal with her non-sense, just replace her.
Maids are not easy to deal with. All the bla bla bla about maids and their rights is full of crap, so good luck doing what You think is right.
~*Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret*~
from morning untill now ur maid is having affair, i dont think she is having affair for that long hours. its very common in doha. u can just send her back and get new maid... or contact the agency and ask them to replace ur maid with another one that will not make any affairs with someone..... as i said on top its common in qatar or in anywhere in the world........
..totally!!
the best & the only thing you should do is find a replacement.
Why everyone concentrating only to this author, there are lot and lot mistreat/slavery suffering in number of Qatari houses? what you will say about it?? if you really know some stories of trorture really your blood will boil. Atleast it is good that she is better than other servent owners (I use this word "owner" to show how slavery is still going on this 21st century) I dont support your servent if you cant control her let her go or release her to someone.
http://www.qatarliving.com/answers/visas-and-permits/can-i-cancel-my-housemaid-visa-to-get-a-new-one
so why this drama?
mathboy spying is haram this hadith is from Bukhari
Beware of suspicion, for suspicion is the falsest of speech. Do not eavesdrop; do not spy on one another; do not envy one another; do not forsake one another; do not hate one another. Be, O slaves of Allaah, brothers.”
We all here are like maid (all came on some sponsorship and under some contract to do specified jobs and get paid as agreed, as in case of maid)
Now, lets put ourselves in place of that maid and think....may be perspective will be different??
(btw sponsor has no proof for maid's illigal affair, if any, (some other maids told so, which may be true/untrue) but she confirm's breaching maid's privacy searching her mobile details.
AbuAmerican-the-wise-the-knowledgeable! Knock's post is neither proof nor accusation, it is just a suspicion, this is what she wrote. I think you need to read the post at least a few times more to understand what she is saying.
Also, it said 'affair', not illicit relation that calls for witnesses and the testimony.
My dear, I told you before.. never talk about religion.. you know nothing about it. Come on.. you can't make a distinction between two simple things!
If you don see any merit in her than what's the point keeping her.
Just replace her.
You just heard from the surroundings so you cannot blame her n keeping males phone numbers doesn't say that she is having affair with all those. You both cannot understand each1 lang it doesn mean also that she cannot understand her own lang, she may has friends of her own nation here.
''Jha jaker aam insaan ki akal sochna band ker deti hey, Raana vha se sochna shuru kerta hey''
came in your mind to fire her. What a thought!!! As she is maid it doesn't mean that she cannot enjoy her life, she doesn't have personal life, she doesn't have mind ? Knockknock, try to make her understand if there any difficulties, try to give her a day off. Even you are taking her outside with you it's not sufficient. Cause you are there with her.
AbuAmerican, I am sorry...you are clueless as usual. Deen is not on your side as it does not allow anyone to have extra-martial affairs.
Knockknock has learned from other people that her maid is having an affair with someone. She could just fire her, which is quite easy. But she seems to be very kind who does not want to fire her without verifying if maid is actually involved in such thing.
And please never ever talk about religion because you know nothing about it.
knockknock is completely right. Being her sponsor she is responsible for her, she has the right to stop if there is any wrongdoing. What's wrong in that?
knockknock are you there?
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Formatted Soul,
Just like your sponsor is subjected to, if you get into one of the above situations.
We are talking about human beings, for chris sake! Slavery is over even in Qatar, no?
I guess not and some insist not to see it which makes it worse!
Nic..I can very well understand what you are saying...
what if she dont come back?
What if she go out and do something illegal?
what if she meet with an accident?
What if someone rape her?
The police will first take the sponsor to the jail...then only they will start the investigation...So its the employers responsibility to take care of her needs..
I can also see the humanity being exerted here. There was no sign of inhumane actions. Therefore, I can conclude that the invasion of privacy was made for informational purpose. Although the maid is entitled with privacy law but it is the right of the employer to protect her member.
Hiring a maid is not like shopping for candy. The insurance she secures in the agency is not a joke. When one hires a maid to clean their home or office, they are basically permitting a stranger access to their personal items. For this reason, you must ask the right questions to make sure that you end up hiring an honest and reliable maid.
FS,
Instead of Knockknock getting her maid whatever she wants and take her out for shopping and allow her to mingle with other maids, she should give her maid free time, for her to do whatever she wants to in private:
Maybe she wants herself to get what she wants instead of having someone to get for her!
Maybe she wants to go shopping by herself!
Maybe she doesn’t want to mingle with the other preselected maids!
Can’t you see that removing any sort of freedom from any human being is not dignifying, it’s humiliating and painful!
Can you understand this?
Sponsor has a legal responsibility if maid get caught
As sponsor you should allow maid time off
As sponsor you should advise maid that she is free with her personal life as long as she does not get in trouble
As sponsor you should build a trust relationship with your maid to share with you her problems before they become serious problems
Rules at home should be made clear and concequences of breaking the rule should also be clear.
Other than that, you do not want to get into legal issues, I know of someone who reported his maid to the authorities and had to wait for a year before he could replace his maid because of court proceedings. If her contract is about to expire you may let her finish her contract and if you do not want her backk send her home.
"The best way to predict the future is to create it".
I guess it is alright to talk about human rights and optimal human behaviour towards a maid. But look at it from knockknocks viewpoint. She is the sponsor and employer and totally responsible for her--I mean totally. She is worried that if that maid gets into trouble it would make her answerable.
All kinds of possible scenario's could be conjured up and every one of them are a bit scary for her. Could be she is humane in her treatment of her maid paying her well and looking after her like family as she says. But I guess she is spending sleepless nights over this. If that maid gets pregnant or something like that, or get caught with another man in HER house, or the maid elopes knockknock will get into serious trouble.
I think we need to look from her uncomfortable position instead of assuming abuse and ill treatment
Nic…. I am not uncomfortable of you defending an abused human beings.. I always do my best to help such people...I don’t have maid..and I don’t need one.. I can do my house chores and manage my family and work well..
In this particular thread...I agree that she is not supposed to check her phone.. other than that what abuse did you see in here? she said that she gets her whatever she want and take her out for shopping and allow her to mingle with other maids...
She never told that her maid cannot have an affair... all she wanted is to know how to confirm that right?
Then why are you assuming that all the people in this world are abusing maids??
From where you come from, not many people can afford a maid...but from where I come.. we always seen ppl working in our house and in our farms...they are paid well, fed well and treated well....so many of us know how to treat them…
ReDbutterfly,
It’s this kind of invisible abuse we can see stamped on almost every maid’s face (those who are allowed to follow their masters in the shopping mall).
Their desperate situation and fear of loosing their jobs makes them wear the mask the employer wants from them.
If they had the choice and the financial means, I doubt that any maid would still pretend that they are so happy to spend their entire lives away from their love ones and under the tight surveillance and complete service of their masters!
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
"Resident Attention Seeker"
.. i witnessed one incident before when i visited one of my patient's house wherein thr 2 indonesian housemaids were sent packing just because they found out the housemaids secretly had cellphones.. they confiscated the phones & called every guy contacts.. the housemaids cried thr heart out but its too late.. so sad but true.. master-slave era s still evident in 2010.
Formatted Soul,
What makes you uncomfortable about defending abused human beings?
Nobody is blaming you personally and if you treat your maid as any other employee, then fine!
What is that "concept of maids" that we are not used to?
Don’t need to answer, sadly we know what is going on in this mentality of those who are "used to the concept of maids"!
as family. just treat fair and square. snooping other peoples private life is bad.
simply tell her not to bring guest in your house or else.
In this modern world, internet is the great equalizer.
From Drop Box
Not everyone treat their maid like property..
Nic.. just because some of you are not used to the concept of Maid….dont assume things... there are maids who stay with families for yrs and are even taken for holidays with them.. they are treated like part of family...
LMAO... you need help to know what you should do with your disobedient and disloyal maid..? this cant be serious.
the maid is not the one supposed to give u trouble... :D
I'm well aware of the disgusting way maids are treated in this country Nic. I'd say there pets are treated better, but having worked with QAWS I know that's not true.
literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me
out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco
Don't try to be a detective by getting into an investigative mode. You will only complicate things and you might find embarassed at the hands of your maid coz you yourself know that she is 'intelligent and bold;.
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
"Resident Attention Seeker"
Olive,
That would be nice, but the problem is that the majority of the maids here in Qatar are treated like private property, banned from any form of independent and personal life 365 days/year.
So tell her to stop having people in your house. Simple, Khallas, done. Just make sure you give her the time to go see her friends outside of your house.
literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me
out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco
Oh didn't know that rules of the houses here include not talking to anyone outside the house. That should be so much fun for the maid.
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Any maid should follow the rules of the house, in the maids office this must be explained when she comes.
This happens probably happens when the maid is left home alone long time and not taking care of her properly.
There is really some serious advise by some concerned people. Thanks to all. I will follow your suggestions. For fun lovers please do not bother to reply to this thread.
Every human being has a right to have Boyfriend/Girlfriend!!! And checking someones Mobile is not good gave her a PRIVACY in LIFE!!!
How about this change the world and you are the MAID? How do you feel?
better than both Rude-ism. :D
I think U shud find another maid and then ask her to leave.
2 months ago.. 1 of our maids got the guts to invite her bf at home.. luckily he was spotted and he ran like a bixx..
things like these are dangerous... i mean..there a ppl living in the house.. i think you should be nice and warn her 1nce and fire her the next time..
overall security camera's are the best solution.. there wont be any trouble in the first place
Rude...!! Is this so called Capitalism?!!! or Hitler-ism. :-)
why not u give her another mobile ? :)
being a sponsor has the right what she does inside her house.
but she doesnt have any right to check her privacy or interfere in her personal life.
There is no point in any maid contract to keep checking her personal life what she does and what she doesnt.
she is having affair or have male contact numbers is none of her business. Her only valid complain is that she is inviting friends without informing her now that she can object.
i say Lets hope the maid is wise enough and go report her to Human rights.
Knockknock,
If one day your own children would have the misfortunate to become maids and servants and be treated like private property; And if you see them in such humiliating situation or if they come to you and cry about their misfortune, maybe then you will understand how it is to feel when treated the way you are treating your maid!
Let's wait for the "what goes around comes around" for you and those like you to learn your lesson!
I am not justifying her...
but as long as the maid is under her sponsorship...she got the right to know what she does inside her house during working hours...why would she pay a price for what her maid does??
Darude you have no right to call her names!! She asked a question in a very civilised manner...
wow.. she has a busy social life... lol... can you introduce her to me, so that I could get couple of tips from her, how to manage having men's mobile numbers 8 times more than women's ones?..
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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small compared to what lies within us."
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Knockknock, if you don't care for what people say, then, why did you ask for it???
Now since you asked for it, listen...!
As deal said, what happens when she gets into trouble? Will all of be there to help her find and sponsor another maid for her?
u cant catch her Red Handed !!
coz she is wearing Black Gloves......
waow!!!! I asked for some advise guys and you people want to chop my head off.... Thanks a lot.. I care a damn about her. I am worried about my household and my chidren who are there under her supervision. Plus I am concerned not to be unjust with her if she hasn't done anything wrong. I can send her back to the agent who will send her to somebody else or back to her country. I am her sponsor and I have the right to know who is she dealing with and who is she inviting in my house... .I dont care if you like it or not.
y u wanna catch her red handed its her personal life n if she is lazy n going against ur rules like calling other maids without ur acknowledgment n all just fire her
its always better to keep a distance n also ask her strictly not to invite her friends at ur home.its ur home nt a hotel or restaurant. y ru dealing her like a family member.just deal professionally.dnt act like a kid.
the best way is to fire her out n find a bettr replacement.bt dnt repeat the same mistake this time to the other maid.ok
Thanks DaRuDe!
For the sensitive ones: Being nice here, is just like witnessing an employer slapping a maid and still defending the poor employer who ran out of patience!
Knock knock.. Knockknock
good point.
Maybe Knockknock is lesbian and loves her maid and dont like her talking to other males.
no problem nic did it on my behalf. i still was very nice with my comment or would have said worse then nic :D
Hey buddy something not right here. If you are so concerned then let her go. But you have not told us on whose sponsorship she is in. Secondly you have been snooping on her which means there is a lot more than just an interest to know. Whatever if she gets pregnant in all probability she would point the finger at you. So send her back if she is on your sponsorship and if not let her go. Let her live her life as she wants.
Worth it to do you own housework. If you have any doubts just let her go
Nic ...that was not so nice... never seen you using such bad language!!
painther ,
because she is clearly abusing a human being and I have zero tolerance to abuses.
The harsh language was directed to her ONLY, as a wake up call. Maybe like this she would realize how abusive she is being!
precautionary step should be taken before any mishaps!!
...Life would become Dull if there were no such Difficulties...
Nic, while ur point of view is valid, but dear! why to use such derogatory language ("you silly ignorant being" , WTF...) even against the writer of this post?
she asked a question (good bad ugly whtever), and got the replies, in same tone; why r U being "aggressive' to her? ain't we talking in a civilized QL forum?
khalaas Nic.. mercy.. she got the message.. she must have apologized to her maid after reading yur comments..lol
DaRuDe,
This being is either a very naive abuser or she is totally convinced that what she does is the norm in the XXI century.
Either way, she needs a serious reeducation treatment!
might catch your conspiracy... :)
...Life would become Dull if there were no such Difficulties...
hahahah .. Da...
Nic is right..
i mean ,,she's your maid... not your daughter to be soooo concerned. even if she falls in trouble it has nothing to do with you nor will harm you. but if a family member does..then definitely should be concerned and try stoping it.
Is slavery system back???
SomeOne told, it was abolished!!!!
maybe she wanted to see if she had any porn on her cell for her pleasure. :P
If it was in some other countries, you would be prosecuted and found guilty of violating privacy:
"I checked her mobile and found out of 23 contacts, only 3 were women and all other are men."
Seriously, WTF do you think you are to not only go so low but also to have the guts to come here to a public forum and write it as if it’s a casual routine???????!!!!!!
You and your kind are the ones who needs to be kicked out ASAP!
knockkkknockkk whose there? get life
GET RID OF YOUR MASTER SLAVE MENTALITY
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Knockknock,
I was going to write how ignorant you sound by what you wrote but others already did it on my behalf!
How dare you interfere in any other individual's private life?
She is NOT YOUR PRIVATE PRPERTY, you silly ignorant being.
How would you like to be a maid and be treated as second hand citizen?
Can’t you see how patronizing your treatment is: "i even allow here to go out to my parties for her to mingle with other maids"- WTF?!
Ignorant, that's what you are. If you had a bit of education, you would treat her as a human being, as an employee with full freedom to live their life independently from the services she is providing you in exchange to the miserable salary you pay her.
People like you are below the standard you attempt to put your maid!!!!!!!!
install security camera's at home.. it helps in every aspect.. this way all the trouble will stay away from your house.
You are treating your household members like a family. That is a plus factor for you. Here comes this feeling of "care" towards her and you want to do something about it because it is not appropriate. Women have the uncanny ability to sense things and they are usually right!
You have to talk to her. If there is a language barrier, then use body language. Another option is, establishing a closer relationship with her. Sometimes it is good to act (actress-like) to catch a culprit. Sounds funny but I did it to people when I am in doubt. But still, confronting her is the fastest way to solve the mystery. If she denies the whole thing then so be it. She is entitled to privacy rights and if something happened to her along the way, blame not yourself because you've done your part.
Just because she's signed up to be your maid doesn't mean she's signed away her life. She's allowed to have friends and a life during her free time. If you don't like that, fire her and do your own housework. Simple as that.
literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me
out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco
She is not your pet animal or a slave, she is a human being who has all those you have.. in and out.
Let her live her life after her works. You may say NO to this within the premises and during workin hours like FS said.
Some other jelousy maids who don`t have this much freedom as she has may complain like this, U can check the contacts are Qatar nos? Lot of indonesians working in Qatar, most of them are men. Probably they may be her relatives.You can control her a bit by giving her a time table to go out, schedule of routine work and restricting her to invite others to ur house without ur permmission.
as long as she is doing her job well, i dont see any problem with that. Smoke is right. "stick to cleaning your house not her life"
practice makes perfect, but nobody's perfect... so why practice? duh?! ☺
Knock, At her age it is indeed common. She is out in a new world, meeting new people and new cultures - (Nice word rather grouping them as FANTASY). Don't rumble with her and don't spoil her world.
You shouldn't check her contact list??!! (It's her privacy). Try first taking to her, understand what's her intention is.
Then, work a easy way out. Just let her go or the pretty easy way you think!!
Thanks.
Live and let others live too. If she's having affairs what goes of yours? Stick to cleaning your house not her life.
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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Risks...if you dont have anything valid to suggest.. keep quite..
Ask her directly..and tell her that...her friends male or females are not allowed in your house, if she want to meet them outside its fine.. but not in your house and not during working hours.
Rizk bro, y do u want my other bro(pajju) to get humiliated?? y don't u visit her house personally?? lol
then simply fire her. Why bother yourself with trying to catch her "in the act" Do you really want to see that? Learn your lesson and next time hire someone you can communicate with.
i hav a plan !!
i will send one person (PAJJU) to make Friendsheep with her. So he will visit ur house one day and u catch her red-handed and slap both of them very Hard.
The End !!
Exactly darude..I didn't mean to be harsh with her so avoided writing such words..thnx.
Knockknock,she too a human being..U can't enforce ur rules on her..She too has a life to live..Confront her one day and ask her in ur SIGN/ACTION language about what shez doing..
why don't u just find a replacement for her..
simple give her a day off to enjoy her life too.you pay her salary for her services YOU HAVENT BOUGHT HER. you dont have any rights.
If the authorities find them and catch them then thats their luck.
Y don't u fire her?? Hire someone else and let her go out of ur house..its simple..