Ladies, Beware of private transportation drivers in Doha

So I take it no improvement in the last six years?

A invite? anything is a invite for the twisted males of the arab world, very few have a sound and solid and SANE view on women and act like animals if they can.

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Ladies, Beware of private transportation drivers in Doha

By joann_xvi on Thu, 12/04/2007 - 10:26am

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You're 3 years LATE!

it was your mistake lady... why did you get in the car with someone you dont know and he doesnt work in trusted transportation company.

in our culture that was an invitation from your side first. He is pervert I m not denying. He is sick to do that.

even if you reported to the police. You went in his car with your own will he didnt force you.

Sorry for my word but i m trying to be more honest than people who felt bad for you with reasoning what caused what

here am doing job as privet Limousine service.this kind of guys are the main problem of our job.

so try to get one trust taxi for all the time if u guys need a traansport.

Not harsh at all....Give respect - take respect.

If the driver wants to feel-up woman he should not be working in Public service least of all Transportation.

Imagine what he would have done to a vunerable housemaid, or a new tourist, or a student!

The plight of Karwa is because of the Sponsorship law. They cannot do much regarding their staff. (Though they could do better to recruit locally).

Those people who support the Sponsorship law are the ones who do illegal business by "selling" visas.

Sorry, i didn't read brandylady's post (YET)...

It's true that there are bad KARWA drivers, but not all of them...

there are still decent, honest working drivers who love their job no matter how hard is it for them...

Please don't generalize...

"brandylady said last week coming home ..."

This happened last week

exactly 1 year and 3 months ago?

brandylady....you should have complained.....

Karwa wont deport these buggers due to the Sponsorship cost and effort. They just deduct money from their salary.

In fact Karwa would love to receive as many complaints as possible so as to make their workers, work free for them...lol

Kawra has the worst employees in any company in the world.

thats really bad...

f**** driver

...don't ride with people you don't know. period.

there are legit transport companies (besides Karwa) whom you can call and they basically charge the same. try getting in touch with them instead. it would be better to pay a little extra so long as you get home safe.

and in the future, if you must ride in a Karwa, jot down their specific car numbers as soon as you get in, call someone (a family member perhaps) and give them that number (usually marked somewhere in the cab...as far as i remember). And while doing this, make sure the driver hears you. I mean, chances are, it might give these sick peeps second thoughts before doing some crazy stunts, if they know that they could be traced and all.

personal opinion.

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Yes, we ladies are always helpless when horrible things like this happens and its real frightening to be a victim.

As for me if I really had no other choice but to take a taxi or private taxi here (as my last resort), then what I did was always before going into the car (note the car number) I will purposely talked to someone on my mobile by mentioning the car number and says I am on the way (talking loudly for the driver to hear me and indirectly warning him someone knows I am in his car).

So far so good, hope it works all the while. Maybe others can do the same as a precaution if you dont have any other choice but to take a taxi.

Report this matter to police at once.

All Drivers who have similar intensions should be tought a lesson.

I think these people are maniacs. So treatment is required immediatly

from just past landmark, my karwa taxi driver suddenly turned right onto a road I didn't recognise, when I asked him why he muttered 'shortcut', I calmly but firmly told him there is no shorter way than the way I had asked him to go and he was to turn around and go back.

He said are you new to here, I replied no, that I had been here a year and am not paying the extra he cost me by going off the wrong way.

Was nervous as the road he took was nothing more than a dirt track, however I did get home safely, he didn't get a tip and I told him the reason why.

He apologised and I said this time I would let it go but next time I am reporting him.

Hope you are over your shocking experience.

but why did you get into a car with a random man thats kinda asking for trouble if its not a limo or karwa stay away i have had loads of idiots ask me if i need a lift i wouldnt ever dream of getting into a random car i tend to aviod karwa because i was in one once and he started driving at 140 near ramada when it was full of traffic i have one driver from fox who i trust with my life he is really good he even changed a flat tire for me once lol so if any ladies need a good drivers number just contact me and i will send you his details. but beware of the crazy ppl out there and if you have to get a taxi follow what dimond or king said.

the sad fact is the crazys think that they can do what they want to asians its sick!!!!!!!

COuldn't agree more. Lack of sex or access to it is not an excuse to assault a woman. Men should learn control.

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A couple of people on here have mentioned the fact that these guys are away from their wives blah, blah, as if that affers some kind of explanation for why they do what they do. I'm sorry but that is just sooooo wrong. At the end of the day a woman has the right to be safe and a man has the ability to control himself!!! Using the fact they are away from their women folk does not condone the harrassment of innocent women. We all have some modicum of self control and if they're that frustrated there is always the "manual" option. There is no excuse or condonation for sexual harrassment or worse assault. Just my 2 dirhams. . .

You are correct JBH...we hope some more views...

Taking women out of the situation is not the only way to look at it.

Taking the bad drivers out of the situation is another way of looking at it.

I would never say women are asking for it if they get in a taxi, nor would I say men who go to bars and get beaten up are asking for it.

But unfortunately such situations exist.

In this particular topic the subject matter is women being assaulted, regularly by all accounts, in taxis.

And I thought "wouldn't it be an idea if there were a company that offered an all female service".

There have been such services in the UK.

I can understand and I do agree that there shouldn't be a need for it, but I am hearing that there is.

That is why civilised societies beverope laws, but some times more is needed as the law can't be everywhere at once.

People get hurt in car crashes, nobody said don't drive in cars, instead they added safety features.

I was merely suggesting a safety feature that could help with the problem.

As for your question "where do you draw the line".

I don't know, I don't think anyone does.

But until we can eradicate all dangerous or unpleasant situations they will always be there.

I repeat, Women are not the problem here, the situation is the problem.

Report all crime and hopefully the law can make at least some impact and hopefully make all peoples lives easier and safer.

Am I explaining myself properly or making it worse?

JBH, I don't believe that would actually solve the problem.

Women removing themselves from that particular situation would just result in the problem manifesting elsewhere, and where do you draw the line?

If women get hassled on public transport, i.e. they can't catch a bus because of groping men, they resort to private hire taxis.

Women start to get hassled in some of the private hire taxis by some of the drivers, so you suggest they stop using taxis with male drivers.

I've personally been hassled walking through streets in other countries, do you think women should stop walking or being out in public more generally? Where do you draw the line? At what point do you say: It's not up to the women to stop catching buses, it's not up to the women to stop using taxis driven by male drivers, it's not up to the women to stop being provocative (i.e. simply being out in public)?

At what point does someone say that the problem is these men who can't control their urges and they are the ones who need to address their behaviour?

Who's to say that if these men are deprived of a chance to behave in this fashion in their taxis that the problem won't manifest elsewhere? I can tell you the answer right now, if they are deprived of one outlet they will manifest their behaviour elsewhere.

You're putting the onus on women, when women are the innocent parties in all this. You are basically saying that if a woman gets in a taxi with a male driver, then she's partly to blame, she's almost asking for it.

You think you're not saying women are to blame, but on a basic level if you're saying that the solution to the problem is to remove women from the situation, that if only the women were to remove themselves from the situation everything would be okay, then you are saying that it's the women who are the problem.

Serendipity, you can read it at many levels, but I can assure it was not intended at the level you have picked up.

When ever I come across a problem I look for ways to avoid the problem next time, as I am sure we all do.

For this problem I consider there needs to be a way to remove the need for women to have to rely upon the [bad] male drivers.

My intended point was in the rest of the post.

There is/could be a need for an all women taxi service and I think it is needed.

Please be assured, I was not and would never suggest it was any womans fault.

And I certainly didn't intend to offend.

I am very aware of the problems my wife and daughter may come across and I am looking for solutions.

I don't know how we are going to get around it yet.

I hope I have explained myself a bit better, and again, sorry for any offense, none intended.

"The first time it happens, it's their fault

The second time it happens, it's your fault"

Do you have any clue how offensive that is? I'm not yet in Qatar but I have experienced hassle in other countries. Usually, the only thing the woman is at fault of is being a woman.

You're the chap who's just about to relocate aren't you? Wait until your wife and teenage daughter have experienced getting hassle off guys even though they have done absolutely nothing to invite nor warrant it, and then come back and tell us females that if it happens more than once then it's 'our' fault.

Really, truly, for some of these depraved individuals, you just have to be female, you don't need to dress or act provocatively in any way shape or form, you just have to be female.

Be practical friends...here we have police to protect you..and the law also with the ladies..

If anything goes wrong.. report to the police directly (its common in any countries.. such crimes may happen).

When you are going outside please be aware about your dressings (its not our country and we must follow the culture).

Just so all the ladies realize that these guys are just nuts try being a guy and getting propositioned by the driver? This has now happened twice since being in the country. It is a bit easier as a guy to get the vehicle pulled over and get out on the side of the ride, but just as offensive and potentially dangerous for the guys out there.

Hmmm- which personality is coming out today?

What is that ?? it is really scary specially for ladies

for Altima one it is some how acceptebale to do things like that becoz he is not official but he must be bunshed for his treat to you .

For Karwa thats really scary and that driver must be kicked out of Qatar also the altima driver.

Qatar always were safe and we want it to be always safe so plz any Private Drivers or Karwa Drivers do anything wrong plz go to police directly so the police punish him and he never dare to do it again.

If you need help send me a private msg & i will try to help with all i can

bye

Here the ladies can do...if they really need it. I believe that recently in Russian ladies started taxi services for their security and I hope in future we can see lady drivers in Qatar as well.

I live be the mantra;

The first time it happens, it's their fault

The second time it happens, it's your fault

What seems to be missing here is a cab service with women drivers.

I'm sure we would all pay a little extra for an up and coming business offering a much needed and innovative service.

Why don't some of the ladies pool together and look into how they can set this up?

With the obvious demand and relativly small area the right vehicles with glass partitions to protect the driver a fleet of about 5 cars would be kept running.

Are there any female entrepreneurs ready to step up and make a change?

Well its probably just me being new and all, but those private taxi guys charge a fortune. Its worked out cheaper for me to hire a car and driver till i get my license converted, and a hell of a lot more convenient too

Rayyz,

Lady Drivers only for Lady passengers for their safe travel...

What if they jump at hot guys like you travelling alone?

I can guarantee womenfolk in this country (not necessarily nationals, but expats as well) aren't less desperate either ;)

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The excessive number of men living alone is a big social problem not only in Qatar, but all over middle east. Their living conditions are very oppressive and most them are almost "on the edge", so to say. Irrational behaviour from them, therefore is not surprising, even though its not socially acceptable. The conditions are to blame, definitely.

Let me tell you that I was NOT AT ALL giving any motive to the guy.

I was wearing a long sleeves-buttoned blouse and a blazer. There was no skin shown except my face, my neck and probably my hands.

The guy is just a plain maniac that's all.

I already check his plate number at MOI site, and he got one violence but only for "LEAVING A VEHICLE ON THE ROAD IN A WAY THAT MIGHT CAUSE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS OR DANGER TO OTHERS"

OK, it's good for the start right?

But why only Qr. 300? They should deport him ASAP

Although preying on unwilling people is unforgiveable, it is bound to happen if there are so few women about.

How do these guys get relief if they are away from home for years at a time?

The people who permit workers into the country should at least be monitoring the M / F ratio knowing so many men are going to be living in the country for so long.

Are there erm... "professional establishments" in Qatar?

I don't know if I am saying this correctly but allowing so many men in the country for long stays is creating a problem.

Funny that you mentioned it! I do recall of a male friend telling me once that one of these drivers (I think it was a private transportation driver) was trying to make a move on him … so yes guys beware you too : )

forget abt ladies you ppl are only worried abt ladies here these taxi drivers do not leave guys even. oki this is a real life incident which happend with my freind this happend around 5 yrs back when there was yellow taxi plying all over qatar. me and my freind use to go for tution in the evening to a place near fiat showroom i dont remebr the name of the place now. oki that is not the thing the point is here is abt taxi thingie oki so back to topic this freind of mine use to come by yellow taxi so one day he was coming by pathans taxi that pathan jus befor droping my freind befor the tution center he says hey listen i dont need the money come with me n this ride is for free n then what he does he tried to pull my frind by his hand n tried to make him stay in the taxi the he startd shouting and that pathan got sacred and he allowed my freind to go this is first instance then same thing happend after few month but the only thing is this time around it was some south indian guy. what i want to say here is there are plenty of gay taxi driver runing the cab in the city so guys plz be care full

Call Mr. Nazar 5646903. I always use him. honest and reliable he is operating from ramada hotel.

While I am feeling sorry about what happened and it was tough experience for you, but also you shouldn't leave him Go Away he will try to do with other women , you were good to pass this safely but god knows about the other women that might be in your position,

Hello Angelo.

Nice to see ya, to see ya nice.

Haven't seen you in a while, welcome back.

My comment was, my thoughts, friends of mine and company employees who use public or private transport have never had any problems (thus far).

Also the ones who use private transport get details from fellow employees or friends, so everyone knows each other. Moreover, private tranport or unlicenced taxi's (who do not wear the Karwa colors) are breaking the law. Since the number or Karwa vehicles are less or not available in some areas or even do not want to work in some area, the-private-transport take advantage of it, I do not think it bad, only, some individuals behaviour gives all of them a bad name. These guys need to be castrated (sorry, couldn't help myself here).

Crime is all over the world, lowest reported in the ME Middle East).

Have a great weekend.

I don't think it's an anomaly unique to Qatar. When I was working in London our female employees were warned repeatedly to only use Black Cabs and not the cheaper unlicensed ones, specifically for this reason; assault.

This happens here due to the high ratio of men to women. Probably in the ratio of 10:1. Men (assuming in the low category, ie labourers, drivers, helpers etc.) employeed here are away from wives and means of having s*x for great lengths of time, ie 2 to 3 years.

SilverFern, your request would best be answered by a friend who personally knows someone who is providing private transport service or else at some point in time you could experience mildly the above experience.

Just my thoughts......

Can anyone give me the name/s and number/s of well respected taxi/limo services to use??

Changing times... Whao the same thing happens in NY taxis no action is taken .. The issue is not sensationalised .. ... It happens every day in the US.....

Cannot believe such things happening in Qatar..... Sign of the times.

this is the reason my family forbids me from taking any sort of cab...even in emergency i am supposed to rely upon several known people.

Please Please report this matter......this sort of behaviour is more rampant now becasue there are more and more women moving freely and perverts think that all are fair game.

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drive safe because someone is waiting for you at home

man im worried for my frnd now...she's always taking randonm cabs( unlicensced) and karwas...thnx guys...and i mn it....

I don’t know who you’re talking about, I’m just a DingDong.

1- I don’t know any Cutesrks

2- I don’t know any WATWATs

3- As for idiots, I know quiet a few, so which one of them do you mean? The one named “the truth 321” ?

horrible thing to have happened...c'mon summon up your girl power and intelligence...before getting into a taxi/limo type the car number plate into your mobile phone...then once in the car ask the driver for his taxi ID number...tell him upfront you have had driver arrested before for sexual harrassment (whether you have or not it acts as a polite warning)...NEVER get into a car that is not a bona fide licensed taxi/limo...every woman should know a few basic self defence moves if worst should happen...if worst happens inside car then roll down window/ knock out window with your (covered) elbow and scream as loudly as possible for help...c'mon girls we are strong, we are powerful, we can overcome sick pervs...report to police immediately...women are in a strong position here...I've had men taken away by police for just looking at me the wrong way in shopping malls...don't live in fear and nervousness...FIND YOUR INNER STRENGTH...

So dingdong, which one are you Cutesrk or that idiot we got rid of from the american airbase some time back?

Or are you WATWAT's alter ego....

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Don't get over excited… the logic behind his actions is rather simple really.... follow the steps:

1- Man see region/world being run with the law of jungle…

2- Man see society being run with the mentality of "every man fins for himself"…

3- Man see woman…

4- Man see self a little horny...

5- Man see in rearview mirror no one watching…

6- Man see helping himself to a serving of you…

See? I told you it's purely logical… just think about it.. he only did as he saw fit.

First of all I don't know what to say to all the women who got that bad and scary experience with those crazy drivers, let god be with all of you.

1- Before you get in the car [if you have to] in front of the driver, write down his plate number and let him know from the beginning that if something went wrong 'I'm ready'.

2- If a friend of you was waiting for you until you got a taxi and then leave, you can also leave the plate number with him/her in case.

3- If you start feeling that something wrong is going on, don't hesitate to call a friend and tell him/her that you are in this car and this is the plate number.

4- If it goes for more than the things that you can bare with like looking at you or trying to talk to you and the guy was crazy to attack you or trying to touch you, then fight with the most that you got, don't stay quiet or shocked don't know what to do.

5- These people does not come with the good words and nice speak, tell him that I will report you if you did not stop the car right now.

6- If you felt like [Gypsy] that you will stay there with him because you will not find another one then let it be, go out of the car and call a friend or anyone that you know and tell them that you are in trouble. This is an emergency and there is nothing to worry about it, it is not the time for 'Etiquette Rules', your life might be in danger.

7- Some of these guys are drivers who lost their jobs and want to work to eat, the others are trying to hunt women thinking that being a driver giving him the privilege to do such nasty stuff that I'm ashamed of talking about them.

God Bless You All, ... Take Care

Certainly this is not new in Qatar. i'm sure many QL readers will agree to this. I'll just hope and pray it happens to no one. Forget girls even guys are not left alone by some Gays! I mean it .....seems really uncomfortable when a guy shows up wiered gestures. Ah! God save all of us! Ameen!

Trust me there will be more of us who might not even comment , coz I'm sure the'v been in the worst of the conditions.

I’m sooo sorry you faced such thing!!!! OMG I’m shaking right now..

First of all, you should never ever get in a car with a stranger!!! By the laws of universe!! He’s not even working for any transpiration company or anything!!!! He just said Taxi!! YOU HAVR TO REPORT THAT!! I’ll help you if you needed a translator or anything..

Check his car out! The bastard has no violations.. he knows how to drive a car too.. not only driving us crazy!

Vehicle Information

Vehicle No : 344920

Vehicle Type : PRIVATE VEHICLE

Vehicle Road Permit Expiry Date : 2007-07-22

Violations :

No Violations

http://www.moi.gov.qa

click the “e-service” then “Traffic Violation”

Anyway, Private transportations drivers all over the world can be really dangerous.. not all of them of course.. I guess it’s because of the nature of their job.. all what they have to do is to know the roads and how to drive I guess! and sometimes they do it with their own car even if they were working for a company oe such thing..I had bad experienceS in London last summer with number of drivers.. One of them wanted to take me to his place and said no need to pay to live in hotel you can live with me for free! I swear I opened the door while the car was moving! There were many details I don’t want to talk about…

another driver was talking in a religious crazy scary tone and told me he cannot be good Christian becaues of ME!! and I was like man what did I do! .. he said because Jesus, as the psycho said, will consider him a sinner only for looking at my eyes because he cant control the things happens with him once he sees dark eyes! Yuck yuck yuck..

another one started talking about his wife who just left him and almost cried lool so I was like I wanna comfort him but I’m scared he might take reveng by murdering me for being woman like her loooooooool

anyway... Thank God you're safe...again, YOU HAVE TO REPORT!!

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Also Ainarl, the ones doing the attacking are usually south-east Asian too. The guy who attacked me was Phillipino.

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"dont ride with other nationals. just hitch with our own if possible or better yet you can arrange with a regular transport with our kabkababayan." So your nationals are angels and the others bastards, are they? Superior morals or something?

if i could just ....... ...... bastards!

Grrrrrrrrr.......

These perverts are mostly preying on south east asian lads.

beware of hitchiking girls!

you should learn your lesson. never again. just a piece of advice dont ride with other nationals. just hitch with our own if possible or better yet you can arrange with a regular transport with our kabkababayan. they very helpfull and will chacharge you with a reasonable dues. take good care.

I called my Qatari friend (all of us should have at least one Qatari friend) who works for the MOI. I gave him the plate number and asked me why I didn't report it earlier, he said he will file the report and send the maniac to his home country in a few days.

I advise you ladies to do the same. Get the plate number and file a report!

sick and i am so tired of them! Where do they get off harassing women like this? Really they make me sick! Living out here has changed my perception on so many things, men mainly! ( Of course not my hubby!!) I sometimes just cant take all the creeps out here and want to really hurt them all! Makes me so mad! Lets just hope these guys get caught and off the street, and pray they dont have housemaids.

i do have several encounters w/ pervert drivers... i was pregnant w/ my second child when there was this orange cab driver brought me to salwa road..to think that i should be going on the other direction w/c is towards the corniche side... i told him that i will call a police of he wont bring me to the right direction...

second.. a karwa driver... indian man from kerla... i was with my eldest son and we were about to go home ( i was still pregnant at that time) when he suddenly stopped the cab in a dark street and turned his back towards the back seat and started touching me so i grabbed my son and put him on my lap..but still the driver was so scary continuing the forceful attack on me... i shouted and begged to stop...

as i my son and i reached home..i began calling karwa hotline and reported the incident then they traced the driver and did an immediate action... they told me to go to their office but i cant w/ my condition, 6 months pregnant and really helpless and traumatized w/ what happened.. the karaw manager talked to me and they assured me that they will do the necessary action to that stupid maniac driver...

as for you dont be scrared..police are there..cid are there.... just pray that the Lord may give you strenght to face each of your life...

I hope you reported that Karwa driver, it's scary to think he can also be driving children to school, as many of the Karwa drivers do.

I still have the direct contact numbers of the managers of Karwa. The Operations Manager for the Taxi Operations was my former boss and I could give you his direct office number or his mobile. Or if you want, the Director of Taxi & Limo Operations, perhaps???

"RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT"

I don't understand why you ladies let this kind of stuff go. Women have a lot of sanctity in official eyes. The police are just waiting to pounce on men who harass women.

Someone attempted to harass my wife once; a license plate number was all it took to end the matter.

Don't waste time. Report the matter. One day one of these guys will really get out of hand and, then, wouldn't it have been better to have stopped him earlier on?

Are sick perverts

When I first got here I had trouble with Fox Limos. I won’t go near them now.

Got the number plate u just need to inform the Police simple rest is their work to handle him why are you trying to tense ur self for free he cant do anything now cant even harm you too. So just inform them SIMPLE

For the Altima guy.. trust me dont leave him if you need more witness. I'll say that I was in the next car driving along and i saw it too.. Please don't let him go easily.. let the other ppl specially his pervert friends know abt it too.

So for the Karwa thats even easier.. please do note down the no.s these drivers here get paid 800 a month leave there families at home... and come here to do all this.. where is there Conscious?

Trust me I cant imagine of gettin back seat with my girl in the car, imagine some women you dont even know. how sick!!!

Thanx for this post I better warn my girl she's a crew as well.

I get really annoyed and aggressive when it comes to mis behaving.

Don't you think we should report these maniacs to the police? Especially Karwa drivers have a taxi number, we can report them easily and deport them.

Yes careful with Karwa taxi drivers as well, I got advances by one of them too!

Beware Karwa too. I took one home one night from the Pearl, and the guy pulled over and tried to get in the back seat with me. I started kicking and screaming and eventually he stopped and finished driving me home. He wouldn't let me get out of the car and I wasn't sure what I should be more afraid of, being stranded on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere or him taking me and killing me somewhere.

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

I will do report him to the police and my husband is a witness plus the other private transport drivers are also a witness to this. THey tell me that he preys on "cabin crews".

Report this sick PERVERT to the police, take his care number plate to them and get him locked away.

There are far to many of these men on the streets and he WILL prey on another woman, so please get to the police (CID) and get him locked away.

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