i have noticed that quite a few of the forums are related to these type of topics i guess its a good idea where they can gain some ideas on whats going on and throw in couple of sujestions
Yeah, Why not ? that could be a good start ? no ? starting a community gathering all people that are facing difficulties concerning sponsorship transfer or that so called NOC. Even people who are ideologically against can join . Don't you agree ?
Yeah sure, but I wish I can get more money than rest :D By the way I have already asked for that so called NOC in vain. I gave up, and I 'll be waiting for anything to happen in this country. Maybe I'll be far away when this will happen LOL.
New Qatar sponsorship law under study, says US envoyPublished: Friday, 17 August, 2007, 01:27 AM Doha Time
By Arvind Nair
QATAR is “considering” a new sponsorship law, which would allow employees to change jobs, the outgoing US ambassador has said.
Quoting sources at Qatar’s Foreign Ministry, Chase Untermeyer, who is leaving Doha on Sunday at the end of his three-year tour of duty, said the Qatar government was concerned about the negative references in the US State Department’s seventh annual Trafficking in Persons Report, published on June 12.
The report dealt with the conditions of expatriate workers in the country. The ambassador said the US too was concerned and the report was given to the Qatar Foreign Ministry before it was released in Washington.
It was critical of the recruitment process saying labourers from certain Asian countries were forced to pay money to get work permits. It highlighted the “difficult and dangerous living conditions” here, where many individuals were often crammed into a single room. The report had also quoted several workers as alleging that, on arrival here, they were paid less than what they were promised, and forced to do jobs other than what they were hired for.
In the report, Qatar was placed in the bottom Tier 3 group – those governments that have shown no commitment to meeting international standards.
The group has grown to 16, compared to 12 in the previous year, “due to a lack of effort” by these nations to combat trafficking. Countries new to the Tier 3 group are Algeria, Bahrain, Equatorial Guinea, Kuwait, Malaysia, Oman besides Qatar.
Untermeyer said Qatar’s anti-trafficking law could come by Ramadan and it could improve the working conditions here.
The government was also considering extending the protection of the labour laws to domestic workers like housemaids, drivers and gardeners, he added.
The ambassador, who would be returning to private business after this one-off diplomatic assignment, said the State Department had given a “good commendation” to Qatar on two other counts — human rights and religious freedom. He said a church would set up in Qatar by next year.
Well, that's the way it is. The Sponsor here in Qatar is the one who has all the rights. This case is a very common one here in Doha. so many people got in the same situation. No release and no chance to change your job unless your employer agrees. It's a real mess in this country. I just wonder guys : is it the same in all Gulf countries ? I heard it's different in Dubai ... right ?
Compromise should be found. Ok, I understand that when the employee wants to “get rid” of his/her employer before the contract is over, it’s not right, and in this case the employer is the one who losses. But when the contract is over, and Company doesn’t even want to renew the contract, the Company still doesn’t give the NOC letter, and employee must leave the country for 2 years. This point I cannot get. Moreover, sometimes even the contract is over and the Company gives the NOC letter, the employee still cannot work in the country for 2 years by qaatri law. That’s seems to me out of any logic…I just recently heard this story from one of my friends. Her contract with QA is over, and she even cannot fly by the proved medical reason anymore… And QA doesn’t want to keep her either , and they still don’t give her release and she will have to leave the country! She found another sponsor and good office job, but she cannot get the NOC letter, and therefore has to leave. Why is that? Somebody can explain to me what is the point here?
I have also heard such rumors, and as I was also looking for a way to get rid of my emlpoyer, I tried to convince myself about it. I just think that if such a change would happen this will take place in 1000 years. and it's never sure. Keep on waiting guys ......For Godot
There's been considerable debate going on in Qatar on this and related subjects. Essentially, parts of the government want to modernise the country and get rid of sponsorship - which would presumably also mean getting rid of banning. However, there has been a lot of resistance against this from local employers. Recent criticism by the US does seem to have galvanised things recently - see here.
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i have noticed that quite a few of the forums are related to these type of topics i guess its a good idea where they can gain some ideas on whats going on and throw in couple of sujestions
Yeah, Why not ? that could be a good start ? no ? starting a community gathering all people that are facing difficulties concerning sponsorship transfer or that so called NOC. Even people who are ideologically against can join . Don't you agree ?
Crazy Frog
tell me i know a lot of people facing the same problems here, I guess we just sit hoping for a better future
Yeah sure, but I wish I can get more money than rest :D By the way I have already asked for that so called NOC in vain. I gave up, and I 'll be waiting for anything to happen in this country. Maybe I'll be far away when this will happen LOL.
Crazy Frog
Thanks for the cutout , but I still have no clear answer . By Ramdan ? This will be great if any change would occur.
Crazy Frog
New Qatar sponsorship law under study, says US envoyPublished: Friday, 17 August, 2007, 01:27 AM Doha Time
By Arvind Nair
QATAR is “considering” a new sponsorship law, which would allow employees to change jobs, the outgoing US ambassador has said.
Quoting sources at Qatar’s Foreign Ministry, Chase Untermeyer, who is leaving Doha on Sunday at the end of his three-year tour of duty, said the Qatar government was concerned about the negative references in the US State Department’s seventh annual Trafficking in Persons Report, published on June 12.
The report dealt with the conditions of expatriate workers in the country. The ambassador said the US too was concerned and the report was given to the Qatar Foreign Ministry before it was released in Washington.
It was critical of the recruitment process saying labourers from certain Asian countries were forced to pay money to get work permits. It highlighted the “difficult and dangerous living conditions” here, where many individuals were often crammed into a single room. The report had also quoted several workers as alleging that, on arrival here, they were paid less than what they were promised, and forced to do jobs other than what they were hired for.
In the report, Qatar was placed in the bottom Tier 3 group – those governments that have shown no commitment to meeting international standards.
The group has grown to 16, compared to 12 in the previous year, “due to a lack of effort” by these nations to combat trafficking. Countries new to the Tier 3 group are Algeria, Bahrain, Equatorial Guinea, Kuwait, Malaysia, Oman besides Qatar.
Untermeyer said Qatar’s anti-trafficking law could come by Ramadan and it could improve the working conditions here.
The government was also considering extending the protection of the labour laws to domestic workers like housemaids, drivers and gardeners, he added.
The ambassador, who would be returning to private business after this one-off diplomatic assignment, said the State Department had given a “good commendation” to Qatar on two other counts — human rights and religious freedom. He said a church would set up in Qatar by next year.
Frog - I will give you the NOC. Please go and find another job. I am sure you won't get any job better than your current one ;)
Well, that's the way it is. The Sponsor here in Qatar is the one who has all the rights. This case is a very common one here in Doha. so many people got in the same situation. No release and no chance to change your job unless your employer agrees. It's a real mess in this country. I just wonder guys : is it the same in all Gulf countries ? I heard it's different in Dubai ... right ?
Crazy Frog
Compromise should be found. Ok, I understand that when the employee wants to “get rid” of his/her employer before the contract is over, it’s not right, and in this case the employer is the one who losses. But when the contract is over, and Company doesn’t even want to renew the contract, the Company still doesn’t give the NOC letter, and employee must leave the country for 2 years. This point I cannot get. Moreover, sometimes even the contract is over and the Company gives the NOC letter, the employee still cannot work in the country for 2 years by qaatri law. That’s seems to me out of any logic…I just recently heard this story from one of my friends. Her contract with QA is over, and she even cannot fly by the proved medical reason anymore… And QA doesn’t want to keep her either , and they still don’t give her release and she will have to leave the country! She found another sponsor and good office job, but she cannot get the NOC letter, and therefore has to leave. Why is that? Somebody can explain to me what is the point here?
it can become more than 2 years as well.
I have also heard such rumors, and as I was also looking for a way to get rid of my emlpoyer, I tried to convince myself about it. I just think that if such a change would happen this will take place in 1000 years. and it's never sure. Keep on waiting guys ......For Godot
Crazy Frog
There's been considerable debate going on in Qatar on this and related subjects. Essentially, parts of the government want to modernise the country and get rid of sponsorship - which would presumably also mean getting rid of banning. However, there has been a lot of resistance against this from local employers. Recent criticism by the US does seem to have galvanised things recently - see here.
Senti - what I don't understand is Expats are working here for a long time and yet failed to read the mindset of the Qatar Employers.
Hope that it will be change at the time of our grand son.lol
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