Penalties for the Sponsorship law violation

Part time/Additional work

Laws concerning part time work have recently been changed. It is now legal to undertake part time work in addition to your primary job if you have the permission of your employer.

Read more: http://www.qatarvisitor.com/index.php?cID=413&pID=1073#ixzz0xJ8H4X1u

Nothing much

what if both companies are related or sister companies? Is this also illegal?

what are the incentives Authorities provides for those who can give them information about people who are not working legally that leads to arrest or conviction?

bad circumstances.. yo better make sure that the employer you work for and the sponsor is the same entitiy

*********************

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small compared to what lies within us."

Oliver Wendell Holmes

May I join please...how about if my employer in the contract is different from the employer/company that i will be working with when I get there in Doha? what are the circumstances of this?

Need your kind response...

ignorance of the law,is except no one.....

well... it contradicts to what tallg posted in his thread. He said that it is punishable if one (muslim or not) caught eating or drinking before sunset.

so muslims who are fasting on their good will are allowed to work less, and non-muslims who forced to fast ( you are not going to have your lunch in the office toilet in order not to get caught, right? you rather fast) have still work full time?... wow!

*********************

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small compared to what lies within us."

Oliver Wendell Holmes

stating that the 6 Working Hours during Ramadan is for Muslim only. That means it is pertaining to all workers regardless of religion.

"Adda ti adal na, ngem awan ti sursuro na."

Same here. Work memo says only Muslims 'work' for 5 hours, the rest of us 8 hours a day :(

------------------------------------------------------------

"Every adult of sound mind, should be able to choose to do whatever they want, as long as they cause no harm to others".

just had discussed with the GM but he told us that this is only for the muslim peole since we are christian we will the be force to follow this.

bryxz, the consequences are that they are forced to reduce work hours to 6. Why don't you complain to your management, then if they don't reduce hours, to the Labor department?

Our company is not following the article 73 of qatar labor law which is 6 hours duty in time of ramadan. Is this punishable by law? what will the consequences if so.

The employer can keep it if it's by request from the employee... the employer may have to prove that.

How mch is the fine for the expired family visit visa of 6 months? and is there any maximum fine for this? Thanks!

as what an acquaintance of mine told me, its already 46K. she was detained because her company was not able to transfer her sponsor on time. at that time, she was bailed for 23 K. 2 weeks after she was released, the authorities again checked her company and good thing that her sponsorship was transferred already. during that time, the police told her that the penalty is already 46k.

usapa na...

Yes, it is responsibility of the Company but it is also her responsibility to provide all the necessary documents, it might take a while and depending on the company she might be asked to pay the fee or they will ask her to pay it back if she decides to leave the company.

Not her fault, her company should apply for her. She can remind them if she likes, I would advise it, I know 3 companies who were visited by the labor department in the last month for surprise checks.

____________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Thanks Amoud. What if the wife under her husbands sponsorship, is working for a company for a couple of years, without a labour card? i.e. she didnt know you had to have a labour card and the company didnt tell her or inform anyone?

------------------------------------------------------------

"Every adult of sound mind, should be able to choose to do whatever they want, as long as they cause no harm to others".

A wife can work when she is under her husbands sponsorship. She needs to have a labor card from the Ministry of labor which her work must apply for. They are doing a lot of inspections lately.

As for a husband under the wife, this is not as common but by logic if the wife is able to sponsor the husband I cant see why not. You may run into a problem with a company wanting to hire a man not under their sponsorship though.

_____________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Has anyone had any updates on this yet? Can a husband/wife under their husband/wifes sponsorship, work for a company?

------------------------------------------------------------

"Every adult of sound mind, should be able to choose to do whatever they want, as long as they cause no harm to others".

Yes, that is confirmed I heard. I have known that when one colleague (an accountant) who is not yet a year in the company and were hired by a government sector. So he came there as borrowed.

-------------------------------------------------------

"Admit your mistakes...before someone exaggerates the story."

...and leaves his 'family name' and everything handled by his hired/trusted "minions"?

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

Queen it is applicable anytime in the sponsorship but is usually granted if they havent completed a year out of courtesy.

This 6 month release is only applicable on certain job titles and does not apply to visas for maids, labors etc.

____________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Alexa, I heard the term "borrow", which your current sponsor can let you work with another company for maximum of 6 months provided that they will give letter and that company you are going to work with. I believe this applies if the sponsorship is barely 1 year.

-------------------------------------------------------

"Admit your mistakes...before someone exaggerates the story."

Hi azi, if he was issued an NOC by his previous employer, then his current employer can demand the release. For that reason, the company will shoulder the responsibility and they should handle the case if they are willing to process everything. With regard to back issue, your friend's case was taken to court? Because I believe, he really need to settle the loan or if he spoke to the bank for some arrangements? Whew! your friend has 3 issues here, ;(

-------------------------------------------------------

"Admit your mistakes...before someone exaggerates the story."

without informing the passport owner (ex-employee)?

A friend of mine is having this problem and he's asking me to ask here on QL? He already have an employer and wants his (working) visa transferred. Only to find out that his passport is already with the CID.

From what i know, the previous employer wants to cancel the visa but couldn't since my friend has a bank (personal) loan and currently resolving his issue with the bank since he's unemployed for several months before.

Anyone got any info on this?

There's no such thing as a "freelance visa", it's an illegal practice.

The previous sponsor will not be fined unless it is proven that he has hired the guy out. Most of the time these people who work for other people who are not their sponsor continue their current jobs and do the illegal bits on the side. There are 6 month releases but these are only applicable to certain job titles. ____________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

fie, if a worker is found to have a "frelance visa", his previous employer, current employer and himself will be fined. as far as i know, total amount is 22,000 QR. hefty, indeed.

kadaut...

Both shoulder it fiery, it is the amounts I am unsure of but was told that is of the judges discretion. This is the max penalties.

_______________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

What about the wife working, who is under the sponsorship of the husband? Is that illegal?

this was my question on the thread with the title "Free Visa", who will shoulder the fine employee or employer?

Marunong ka sanang makiramdam!

It is Article 15 of the immigration law amendment QS, the fine is 3 years imprisionment and up to QR 50,000 as a fine. I am unsure of the applicability, it didnt specify if this was for the employee or employer.

___________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Thanks blue, actually in my case it's the wife sponsoring the husband :)

------------------------------------------------------------

"Every adult of sound mind, should be able to choose to do whatever they want, as long as they cause no harm to others".

Lol, QS, it must be a riot explaining these laws to people from other countries. The expressions on their faces must be priceless! Not to mention the expressions out of their mouths.

Mandi

thank you guys... but why do you think that this is my case? ..lol...

I have to explain the rules and laws to our Clients - international companies, in particular the western ones, for whom this kind of stuff a bit shocking, so i need a proper links to the official info..otherwise it sounds kindda unbelievable to them...lol.. that's it...

Lost Ark, you are really lost.. Pls try to follow PM's advice.

others, thanks a lot...

*********************

“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

PEACE BE UPON YOU,IT USED TO BE EASY for the wife to work with no required papers now you need to take permission from the ministry of labor also,where i am working they asked all wives under husband sponsorship to take permission of working from ministry of labor

shazbat: the spouse is different, they can still work for one place. (It's usually the husband sponsoring the wife)

What about spouses? If a husband or wife sponsors their spouse on a family residence visa, can the sponsored spouse still work on a 'local contract'?

------------------------------------------------------------

"Every adult of sound mind, should be able to choose to do whatever they want, as long as they cause no harm to others".

An employee working with different sponsor....the penalties was used to be Qr9000/ for the hiring employers and Qr4,500/ for the employees + immediate deportation.

Though not sure how much it should be this time?

Lost_Ark, it seems that you're freelancing. You should know that it's illegal.

If you want to violate the law and risk being caught, it's your choice. I'm not shutting up.

Well, someone asked a question about the Law? And some people shared their answers! What's wrong with that?

And for freelancer employees, better yet to understand and have the idea of these Laws coz if they are being caught by the Authority, an ignorance to the Law is never a valid reason and considered non-sense in the court.

Working "freelance" is illegal, Lost Ark. Period. What part of illegal don't you get? And yes, it IS a problem if you get caught. Perhaps you can get away with it but please don't encourage others to go down this path.

Mandi

We should think this type of questions asking before think positively. We are giving ourselves for hanging please read clearly. Please Habibi read to learn.,

You people sitting for giving problems for others those who works freelance. Shut and Sit your place.

here is the copy of such.

Fixed QR 10,000.00 for first offender and QR 20,000 to Qr 100,000.00 or minimum 15 days prison term to 3 years.

Sponsorship law gets tough on violators

Web posted at: 2/28/2009 6:51:24

Source ::: THE PENINSULA / By MOBIN PANDIT and MOHAMED SALEM

DOHA: The new sponsorship law will impose jail terms and heavy fines for foreigners violating rules regulating visas, residence and work. Sponsors will be fined if they retain a worker’s passport or travel document after visa formalities are over. They can be jailed or fined heavily for employing a worker who is not under their sponsorship.

Visitors here on a 30-day visa, who overstay, face prison terms which can extend up to three years or, alternatively, may be fined up to QR50,000.

A jail terms from 15 days to a year or fines ranging from QR20,000 to QR100,000 will be imposed for repetition of any of these violations.

Entering the country without a valid passport or travel document or without a valid entry visa, and not entering the country through designated border checkpoints will also receive the above punitive measures.

Similar punitive measures await those who choose to work with companies or households that are not the sponsor of a worker, or if they are involved in a job other than the one specified in their visa document.

Landmark legislations

INVESTMENT PANEL

An investment development committee will be set up under the Cabinet to explore investment avenues in the automobile industry.

Building Law

The law has been amended imposing heavy fines for changing basic structures of a house, apartment or a building without permission.

JAIL REFORM

First time convicts will not be lodged in the prison with inmates who are serving terms for committing crimes repeatedly.

Companies or households employing workers who are not under their sponsorship also face similar punishment.

A worker who is issued a residence permit (RP) to work for a certain period, is required to leave the country within 90 days of the expiry of his RP. Failure to do so would also be dealt with the above punishments. Sponsors not sending newly-arrived workers to the authorities concerned (for mandatory health checkups for instance) within seven days of their arrival will be liable to be fined QR10,000.

The Minister of Interior has been authorised by the new law (No. 4 of 2009 regulating the entry, exit, residence and work of foreigners) to identify the department (the authorities concerned, as mentioned above) within his ministry which will be responsible for enforcing the legislation.

If a worker is found without a valid RP or if he fails to get the RP renewed within 90 days after its expiry, he will be fined up to QR10,000.

Similarly, sponsors not returning passports or travel documents of their workers after visa formalities are over, are to be fined up to QR10,000.

If the visa for a newborn is not applied for within 60 days of its birth or in case a newborn is arriving here, and its visa is not applied for within 60 days of arrival, a fine of up to QR10,000 is to be levied.

Articles 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15, 39, 48, 51 and 52 of the new legislation prescribe the above punitive measures

I think it was 6000QR paid by both the employer and employee as well as possible prison if it's repeated? not sure what it is now.