everything else is debatable and of course there's many bad elements within 'our own'; but as a separate topic; and as a detached person with no interest in politics; i find the rise of ISIS an almost unbelievable tale...from 'never heard of them' to controlling and operating oil refineries in huge dictator run countries, it warrants extreme skepticism...someone wants them to exist and regardless of how much I/we want them gone, they'll be around until the propaganda onslaught in the western media has run its course and until their creators' purposes are all fulfilled...its all a dirty dirty game, which we laymen think we understand; but haven't the slightest clue as to the conniving games of deceit that go on in the corridors and lobbies of power...seems like the absolute scum of mankind gets to run the world..