ah...i tell a joke and you take everything seriously. it's definitely not fun to be an atheist. all you do all day is get fixated on assuming that the entire catholic church is made up of pedophiles and think the worst of people. some of them do prefer women you know.
that said, he wasn't even a bishop that time. yes, he had a position within his order, but for the rest of the world, he was just a priest. he couldn't have had that much power back then. thousands of people died, including priests, even bishops. what could he have done o most enlightened one?
i don't have a right to judge him on what he did or did not do during that time because i have no idea on how complicated that time was, but let me try to put it in the perspective of my country's history. like argentina, we were in a military regime in the 70's and have a somewhat parallel history. the repression made many priests embrace liberation theology and some of them eventually turned into communist rebels.
from what i can gather based on the limited information i have, those two priests may already be communists that time and the final straw was the order forbidding them to go to the slum areas (which may have been a communist-controlled area), which they disobeyed so they got into trouble.
if then father bergoglio had been too vocal in saving the two priests, it would have put the jesuit order (and all the priests who belong to it) in danger and the military junta might accuse them of colluding with the communist rebels. they could have been wiped out. there have been times in history when the jesuits have been driven out of a particular country because they ruffled some feathers in the government. i'm pretty sure the catholic hierarchy (i.e. the diocese, etc) in argentina wouldn't have done anything to save them either.
whatever his involvement was back then, he probably had to make very difficult decisions in a very complicated situation. it's not fair to convict him of something if we do not know the whole story. the two priests were found alive eventually, and that would be called lucky. maybe he even helped, but we never know. latin america had a very big desaparecido problem back then and there were many more who were never found. same case with my country.
these are all assumptions but i know one thing for a fact, leftist groups can tell nasty tales whenever it suits them to make themselves look like good martyrs and their causes look righteous when there is simply something or someone they are against. they're some of the worst hypocrites on earth
ah...i tell a joke and you take everything seriously. it's definitely not fun to be an atheist. all you do all day is get fixated on assuming that the entire catholic church is made up of pedophiles and think the worst of people. some of them do prefer women you know.
that said, he wasn't even a bishop that time. yes, he had a position within his order, but for the rest of the world, he was just a priest. he couldn't have had that much power back then. thousands of people died, including priests, even bishops. what could he have done o most enlightened one?
i don't have a right to judge him on what he did or did not do during that time because i have no idea on how complicated that time was, but let me try to put it in the perspective of my country's history. like argentina, we were in a military regime in the 70's and have a somewhat parallel history. the repression made many priests embrace liberation theology and some of them eventually turned into communist rebels.
from what i can gather based on the limited information i have, those two priests may already be communists that time and the final straw was the order forbidding them to go to the slum areas (which may have been a communist-controlled area), which they disobeyed so they got into trouble.
if then father bergoglio had been too vocal in saving the two priests, it would have put the jesuit order (and all the priests who belong to it) in danger and the military junta might accuse them of colluding with the communist rebels. they could have been wiped out. there have been times in history when the jesuits have been driven out of a particular country because they ruffled some feathers in the government. i'm pretty sure the catholic hierarchy (i.e. the diocese, etc) in argentina wouldn't have done anything to save them either.
whatever his involvement was back then, he probably had to make very difficult decisions in a very complicated situation. it's not fair to convict him of something if we do not know the whole story. the two priests were found alive eventually, and that would be called lucky. maybe he even helped, but we never know. latin america had a very big desaparecido problem back then and there were many more who were never found. same case with my country.
these are all assumptions but i know one thing for a fact, leftist groups can tell nasty tales whenever it suits them to make themselves look like good martyrs and their causes look righteous when there is simply something or someone they are against. they're some of the worst hypocrites on earth