Now that I read your novel again and tried to understand it, I will reply to you. You know...poor me, English is not my native language, so I need to read again and again to understand a comment from Paki native speaker (pardon me, but I do not know what do they call your language..Is it urdo?)
So, regarding Moza's comment which you agree the most with (No wonder in that ). God speaks Arabic or not? Who are you to tell that he does not speak Arabic or whatever language? I don't say that he speaks Arabic, but I say that he is capable to speak whatever language he wants to. Are you offended because I did not say that he speaks your Paki language? Ok, to make you feel better, I will also say that he is capable to speak Paki language. He is capable to speak whatever language if he wants to including yours, so keep your wise thoughts for yourself, because you are nobody to describe God the way you want to.
Now, regarding your second paragraph which is:
"I really do not know how you, Mr. Native Speakers, assumed that being a native should make any difference when it comes to the understanding of the Holy Quran. I am really sorry to tell you but you have the most narrow vision of religion and you seem to be completely ignorant of Islam. Have you heard about خطبة حجة الوداع ? Our prophet Mohammed (PBUH) clearly said that Arabi has no preference over Ajami and vice versa. Knowledge is with God and he will bestow it upon anyone He likes, whether a native Arab speaker or not".
I am sorry to tell you that you are so pathetic person and your superficial thread reflects that (As how one commentator already described your thread). Did I insult you or discriminate between Arabi and Ajami? Why do you go this far and start writing about something that has nothing to do with my comment? I just mentioned that not all verses in Quran can be easily understood by even native speakers. Until this moment, they interpret new verses into other languages and add to the existing interpretation of some books (tafseer al quran).
It Seems like calling myself native speaker offended you so much and made you feel less than me!!! What is wrong with you? Are you sick or something?? Admit the fact that non Arabs need years to learn the language and more years to understand the entire Quran. I met hundreds of your kind in my life and most of them were so poor in speaking and understanding my language..I had some Persian flatmates in my first apartment in Europe and they were all drinking alcohol and bringing women to the apartment (which I don't mind at all, as this is their personal life and it is none of my business). I always spoke with them in English since they told me they do not understand Arabic. One day in Ramadan, I heard one of the Persian guys reading Quran, so I rushed to him and asked him: “Wow!! You speak Arabic!!", and he replied back to me “Yeah, I can read Quran. I can even write Arabic”, so I looked into what he is reading and asked him "Do you understand what you are reading?" and he replied "No...very little...". No comment after this..
Maybe you are an exception and you perfectly understand Arabic (although I doubt it and that is one of my reasons why I sent you an invitation to meet me, so that the truth will be revealed:).
In short, be cool and do not get much offended if someone tells you that you do not speak a language well enough to understand everything.
Now lets move to your next pathetic paragraph which is:
“Keeping a television is Haram for some people in Pakistan and Afghanistan. And this is because these people interpreted Islam wrongly? If I tell you that the first time I learnt that listening to music was haram was from an Arabic book, will you believe me? I have never heard any single muslim scholar saying that having a television at home is haram. Yes, I have heard both arabs and ajams saying that listening to music is haram, except in certain situations. I leave it to you to decide Mr. Native speaker, whether they are right or wrong"
I don't need to comment much on this because the whole world knows what Afghanistan and Pakistan is, so I will just leave it for the readers to tell which countries are very well known in discriminating and treating women so badly, and which countries are the ones who disallow women to work or even to learn, prohibit watching TV, cover women with a blanket and lock them in their houses.
Princess Arora has already explained this when she said "Say for example, in a typical Muslim oriented culture, women are not allowed to work, raise voice, or speak against the decision of alpha males in the family. They are expected to cover their body from head to toe and males are given the freedom to stare (Even though lowering the gaze is a form of 'hijab' for men, staring is not a crime in Muslim nations)". This all simply apply to some regions in your country and in Afghanistan. This is because they interpret Islam in sick St..id way. They drink alcohol, smoke weed and commit many other sins, while at the meantime they go and pray 5 times a day and treat their women so badly. Shame on them and you if you was one of them.
Now moving to your next paragraph which is:
"According to one grammarian, Arabic has five discernible forms. Even fusha has two varians. The holy Quran is written in one of the most classical forms. The language which your mom and dad used to speak to you in when you were a child is very different from the Arabic in which Quran is written. Unless you get formal education in the language, and unless you have to the capacity to absorb that education, you will NEVER be able to understand the Holy Quran well"
Ok, What is new in this? I know that all, and for your information my mother was teaching Arabic for 25 years in Government Schools in Qatar, 5 years in Egypt, and 2 years in Lebanon. She also refers to tafseer books when she reads Quran. But you are super intelligent who understand every word in Quran although Arabic is not his mother tongue :)
Now, lets move to this paragraph:
"There was once a competition to write a book on life of autobioraphy. And all the native speakers of the Arab world competed, but you know who got the first place? A Pakistani! Yeah, he never was a native. Dont believe me? Here you go: http://en.wikipedia....".
Yes, so what? He was a Pakistani, and then what? As you said: "There was ONCE a competition...". It happens, so does that mean that all Pakis understand Arabic pretty well as the Arabs themselves do?:)
Finally, your last paragraph which is:
"Do you know that not all mufassireen were Arabic natives? Perhaps you should start with learning the basics of religion and then you will know what I am talking about. I am really disappointed in you Mr. Native Speaker".
Yes I agree again, not all mufassireen were Arabic natives, but how many are they out of the hundreds of millions native Arabic speakers? 100? 200? 1000???:) LOL, please be realistic, accept the facts, and do not always get offended and take things personally..
In short, I would tell you that I am so blessed that QURAN was written in my NATIVE LANGUAGE and I am so proud to be an Arab who taught and still teaching people of your kind to understand the Holy Quran, but unfortunately, most of teachers in your country are non-Arabs and therefore it is no wonder for religion to be understood in this way.
By the way, why do you ask where I am from? As I said accept my invitation and you will know where I am from. By the way, your excuse of being over busy in Eid is acceptable although I do not think that you work 24 hours a day and can not find few minutes to face me. No problem, Mr. NON NATIVE ARABIC SPEAKER, choose a time that suits you and I will make myself totally free for you.
Now that I read your novel again and tried to understand it, I will reply to you. You know...poor me, English is not my native language, so I need to read again and again to understand a comment from Paki native speaker (pardon me, but I do not know what do they call your language..Is it urdo?)
So, regarding Moza's comment which you agree the most with (No wonder in that ). God speaks Arabic or not? Who are you to tell that he does not speak Arabic or whatever language? I don't say that he speaks Arabic, but I say that he is capable to speak whatever language he wants to. Are you offended because I did not say that he speaks your Paki language? Ok, to make you feel better, I will also say that he is capable to speak Paki language. He is capable to speak whatever language if he wants to including yours, so keep your wise thoughts for yourself, because you are nobody to describe God the way you want to.
Now, regarding your second paragraph which is:
"I really do not know how you, Mr. Native Speakers, assumed that being a native should make any difference when it comes to the understanding of the Holy Quran. I am really sorry to tell you but you have the most narrow vision of religion and you seem to be completely ignorant of Islam. Have you heard about خطبة حجة الوداع ? Our prophet Mohammed (PBUH) clearly said that Arabi has no preference over Ajami and vice versa. Knowledge is with God and he will bestow it upon anyone He likes, whether a native Arab speaker or not".
I am sorry to tell you that you are so pathetic person and your superficial thread reflects that (As how one commentator already described your thread). Did I insult you or discriminate between Arabi and Ajami? Why do you go this far and start writing about something that has nothing to do with my comment? I just mentioned that not all verses in Quran can be easily understood by even native speakers. Until this moment, they interpret new verses into other languages and add to the existing interpretation of some books (tafseer al quran).
It Seems like calling myself native speaker offended you so much and made you feel less than me!!! What is wrong with you? Are you sick or something?? Admit the fact that non Arabs need years to learn the language and more years to understand the entire Quran. I met hundreds of your kind in my life and most of them were so poor in speaking and understanding my language..I had some Persian flatmates in my first apartment in Europe and they were all drinking alcohol and bringing women to the apartment (which I don't mind at all, as this is their personal life and it is none of my business). I always spoke with them in English since they told me they do not understand Arabic. One day in Ramadan, I heard one of the Persian guys reading Quran, so I rushed to him and asked him: “Wow!! You speak Arabic!!", and he replied back to me “Yeah, I can read Quran. I can even write Arabic”, so I looked into what he is reading and asked him "Do you understand what you are reading?" and he replied "No...very little...". No comment after this..
Maybe you are an exception and you perfectly understand Arabic (although I doubt it and that is one of my reasons why I sent you an invitation to meet me, so that the truth will be revealed:).
In short, be cool and do not get much offended if someone tells you that you do not speak a language well enough to understand everything.
Now lets move to your next pathetic paragraph which is:
“Keeping a television is Haram for some people in Pakistan and Afghanistan. And this is because these people interpreted Islam wrongly? If I tell you that the first time I learnt that listening to music was haram was from an Arabic book, will you believe me? I have never heard any single muslim scholar saying that having a television at home is haram. Yes, I have heard both arabs and ajams saying that listening to music is haram, except in certain situations. I leave it to you to decide Mr. Native speaker, whether they are right or wrong"
I don't need to comment much on this because the whole world knows what Afghanistan and Pakistan is, so I will just leave it for the readers to tell which countries are very well known in discriminating and treating women so badly, and which countries are the ones who disallow women to work or even to learn, prohibit watching TV, cover women with a blanket and lock them in their houses.
Princess Arora has already explained this when she said "Say for example, in a typical Muslim oriented culture, women are not allowed to work, raise voice, or speak against the decision of alpha males in the family. They are expected to cover their body from head to toe and males are given the freedom to stare (Even though lowering the gaze is a form of 'hijab' for men, staring is not a crime in Muslim nations)". This all simply apply to some regions in your country and in Afghanistan. This is because they interpret Islam in sick St..id way. They drink alcohol, smoke weed and commit many other sins, while at the meantime they go and pray 5 times a day and treat their women so badly. Shame on them and you if you was one of them.
Now moving to your next paragraph which is:
"According to one grammarian, Arabic has five discernible forms. Even fusha has two varians. The holy Quran is written in one of the most classical forms. The language which your mom and dad used to speak to you in when you were a child is very different from the Arabic in which Quran is written. Unless you get formal education in the language, and unless you have to the capacity to absorb that education, you will NEVER be able to understand the Holy Quran well"
Ok, What is new in this? I know that all, and for your information my mother was teaching Arabic for 25 years in Government Schools in Qatar, 5 years in Egypt, and 2 years in Lebanon. She also refers to tafseer books when she reads Quran. But you are super intelligent who understand every word in Quran although Arabic is not his mother tongue :)
Now, lets move to this paragraph:
"There was once a competition to write a book on life of autobioraphy. And all the native speakers of the Arab world competed, but you know who got the first place? A Pakistani! Yeah, he never was a native. Dont believe me? Here you go: http://en.wikipedia....".
Yes, so what? He was a Pakistani, and then what? As you said: "There was ONCE a competition...". It happens, so does that mean that all Pakis understand Arabic pretty well as the Arabs themselves do?:)
Finally, your last paragraph which is:
"Do you know that not all mufassireen were Arabic natives? Perhaps you should start with learning the basics of religion and then you will know what I am talking about. I am really disappointed in you Mr. Native Speaker".
Yes I agree again, not all mufassireen were Arabic natives, but how many are they out of the hundreds of millions native Arabic speakers? 100? 200? 1000???:) LOL, please be realistic, accept the facts, and do not always get offended and take things personally..
In short, I would tell you that I am so blessed that QURAN was written in my NATIVE LANGUAGE and I am so proud to be an Arab who taught and still teaching people of your kind to understand the Holy Quran, but unfortunately, most of teachers in your country are non-Arabs and therefore it is no wonder for religion to be understood in this way.
By the way, why do you ask where I am from? As I said accept my invitation and you will know where I am from. By the way, your excuse of being over busy in Eid is acceptable although I do not think that you work 24 hours a day and can not find few minutes to face me. No problem, Mr. NON NATIVE ARABIC SPEAKER, choose a time that suits you and I will make myself totally free for you.