I think the point is whether the women who get harrased here can get justice which from the examples posted by the OP doesnt seem so. So anything else in between of the likes of identity of a QLer or whether men or women should stay at home, etc. is frivolous and tantamounts to posting unnecessary comments almost bordering on hijacking the real issue while at the same time showing the callous attitude towards the women who would have been the victims. So if we are done with everything else can we get back to the issue. My interest is only to the extent to get to know about how things work here and if by such discussions some improvements could be achieved, if what gets stated in context is indeed a reality.