Flor - actually you can say fairly easily what is moderate when you have exact measurements - a glass or 2 of wine with a meal, most people would consider moderate. 3 bottles with a meal, most would consider excessive. But for some posters to call people alcoholics for having a glass or 2 of wine with a meal is this side of being rude. Again, it is like calling someone who enjoys a cigarette or the shisha a drug addict. fairly offensive.