painther,
Thank you.
Just wanted to add before I go that certain topics cannot be debated with certain people.
Haven’t you noticed the absence of the majority of QLers when these issues arise?
It’s because either you agree or remain in silence. That’s how democracy is tolerated within certain ideologies, as long we remain within the ideology’s boundaries and that – conditioning - can never be called democracy.

A secular elected government is the only assurance for a fare and democratic government that can represent all citizens equally, regardless of their religion or any other differences!

;)