sillyguy,
I don’t think I was offensive by attributing the metaphor “parrot” to someone who paraphrases others.
If you read carefully what I wrote, I never defended the western culture is perfect (whatever you mean by western. Perhaps you mean the non-Muslim which stands for 75% of the world?!). No, it’s not perfect. Wherever humans have a say, you’ll find imperfection and that includes your west!
But my friend, can you stick with the topic. Here I am, based on history and current world’s status, questioning if Islam or any other religion, can coexist with democracy? And how to you reply? The usual defensive mode: “how about your culture that kills innocent people”! Please debate one issue at a time, avoid replying to a question by diverting your answer to another distinct topic!
Let’s just admit that I agree with you. I never expressed the contrary, did I? So for the sake of this debate, let’s admit that I agree with everything you say about what you call the west and let’s focus our debate on my initial question:
Is religion, particularly Islam, compatible with democracy?
We just need to look at any country in the MENA region to get the answer to this question.
In every situation where one is close to the other, it results in oppression!
Their segregation and a complete removal of religion from politics is an essential precondition for the establishment of true democracy.
The cement that maintains your religion cohesive and unchangeable is: “do not dare to question but accept and follow blindly what we tell you is the word of god”.
This invisible implied principle in Islam other religion, is a major barrier for democracy where “free individual critical thinking” is an essential pillar.
Now, we can be here debating forever (I don’t have the time nor am I interested to change your mind), twisting both sides in order to back up our distinct point of views.
I can ensure you that neither you and me will get anywhere for reasons that I wont bother to remind you of.
So in the absence of a debate, let’s keep in silence and observe the world out there particularly the MENA region where a certain religion commands peoples’ lives and measure how democratic the entire region is. Observe and take your own conclusions.
No further discussions are required.
PS. Abstain from quoting any book as it has no value for me and yes I did studied it.
sillyguy,
I don’t think I was offensive by attributing the metaphor “parrot” to someone who paraphrases others.
If you read carefully what I wrote, I never defended the western culture is perfect (whatever you mean by western. Perhaps you mean the non-Muslim which stands for 75% of the world?!). No, it’s not perfect. Wherever humans have a say, you’ll find imperfection and that includes your west!
But my friend, can you stick with the topic. Here I am, based on history and current world’s status, questioning if Islam or any other religion, can coexist with democracy? And how to you reply? The usual defensive mode: “how about your culture that kills innocent people”! Please debate one issue at a time, avoid replying to a question by diverting your answer to another distinct topic!
Let’s just admit that I agree with you. I never expressed the contrary, did I? So for the sake of this debate, let’s admit that I agree with everything you say about what you call the west and let’s focus our debate on my initial question:
Is religion, particularly Islam, compatible with democracy?
We just need to look at any country in the MENA region to get the answer to this question.
In every situation where one is close to the other, it results in oppression!
Their segregation and a complete removal of religion from politics is an essential precondition for the establishment of true democracy.
The cement that maintains your religion cohesive and unchangeable is: “do not dare to question but accept and follow blindly what we tell you is the word of god”.
This invisible implied principle in Islam other religion, is a major barrier for democracy where “free individual critical thinking” is an essential pillar.
Now, we can be here debating forever (I don’t have the time nor am I interested to change your mind), twisting both sides in order to back up our distinct point of views.
I can ensure you that neither you and me will get anywhere for reasons that I wont bother to remind you of.
So in the absence of a debate, let’s keep in silence and observe the world out there particularly the MENA region where a certain religion commands peoples’ lives and measure how democratic the entire region is. Observe and take your own conclusions.
No further discussions are required.
PS. Abstain from quoting any book as it has no value for me and yes I did studied it.