all that is for professionals....i don't even know HOW to use a charcoal stick.and pencils....i used 0.5 tip microtip pencil to draw and shade all these :-P dunno which grade pencil to use where....thaz the problem.i've never taken it seriously.like i said,just time-pass.

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor