I always recall overhearing a conversation in Saudi.. One guy was going on about how great the Taliban were. Anothe asked the simple question "Would you let your family live under Taliban rule ?"
The answer was a firm NO! :O)
I heard a similar exchange between some rich guys in AD in Ramadan 02 in one of 'em tents. Young gun starts praising Saddam, how he was this & that, how he should have won every war he was in, old bloke whips out of his walking stick and smacks him over the fingers, wisely reminding him..
"Had Saddam won the first Gulf war you would be digging ditches up and down the flow of the Tigris, instead of sitting here asking which hotel in Europe you can buy."
Indeed, the worst part about the muslim world is how some people with money and (usually a delusion of) power give themselves the right to experiment with "statebuilding", but only outside their own borders.
That is exactly the gist of the problem and conversely, the very essence of the grief the east has against the west, that idea of a God given right to "tell others how they'll go about their lives". This world is full to the brim of humans with such a basic and primitive grasp of causality (if any at all that is), such twisted double-faced morals, that one wonders if this global meltdown is not perhaps JUST WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED! Everyone involved is IMHO morally bankrupt to the core. Those with any sense of humanism are the silent majority, the apathetic, amid the horror of radicalism and stupidity they are surrounded by, they choose to turn the other cheek to the madness, and the world slides off it's axis...
And I'm hereby done with political debates on here, I don't need this in my life honestly, many a better pursuit to ponder, I neither eat nor drink off of my opinions on foreign relations and political systems. Pulling at my own nerves over the prevailing inhumanity of certain posters on here is not my idea of a good time.
I always recall overhearing a conversation in Saudi.. One guy was going on about how great the Taliban were. Anothe asked the simple question "Would you let your family live under Taliban rule ?"
The answer was a firm NO! :O)
I heard a similar exchange between some rich guys in AD in Ramadan 02 in one of 'em tents. Young gun starts praising Saddam, how he was this & that, how he should have won every war he was in, old bloke whips out of his walking stick and smacks him over the fingers, wisely reminding him..
"Had Saddam won the first Gulf war you would be digging ditches up and down the flow of the Tigris, instead of sitting here asking which hotel in Europe you can buy."
Indeed, the worst part about the muslim world is how some people with money and (usually a delusion of) power give themselves the right to experiment with "statebuilding", but only outside their own borders.
That is exactly the gist of the problem and conversely, the very essence of the grief the east has against the west, that idea of a God given right to "tell others how they'll go about their lives". This world is full to the brim of humans with such a basic and primitive grasp of causality (if any at all that is), such twisted double-faced morals, that one wonders if this global meltdown is not perhaps JUST WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED! Everyone involved is IMHO morally bankrupt to the core. Those with any sense of humanism are the silent majority, the apathetic, amid the horror of radicalism and stupidity they are surrounded by, they choose to turn the other cheek to the madness, and the world slides off it's axis...
And I'm hereby done with political debates on here, I don't need this in my life honestly, many a better pursuit to ponder, I neither eat nor drink off of my opinions on foreign relations and political systems. Pulling at my own nerves over the prevailing inhumanity of certain posters on here is not my idea of a good time.