actually I had a 2 door wrangler 2005 and crached it in da dunes. it was 2006 December . (after the good Asian games days)was a horrible night. after that day I never ever climbed a dune with a car,, been there climbing with my legs,, lol. and just did BBQ and swimming . so I am not a big fan of dunning anymore,, lost interest and touch of that craze.
so keeping dunning business aside,, yea still think pathfnder is more reliable . it's just that I really can't resist the look of the wrangler compared to a pathf.
it's the dilema between looks and performance now,,,
imagine the black wrangler without it's top in winter,, me and a mate wearing black jumpers with the hood on and a green crago shorts like with a chain hangin ,, with some brown boots,,, A little heavy metal,, ooof!!!miss that winter.

can't get over it still,, loooool!!!
thanx guys I really appreciate ur opinions,,
peace